New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Big-Cat]

Saw the newest Fire Emblem trailer, I just had to make a gif of this. XD

I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Wierd stuff that people STILL think Krom's like, a shoe-in new FE rep. We sure discuss his chances and what he can bring on the table... but I'd lol if he's actually a descendant of Marth and makes it. Many would definitely think/make a rule that Sakurai loves Akaneia-era over any othet FE-era by giving two reps for that.



/Also I should really, REALLY get back clearing Starfy 3 now/

 

[ChronoBound]

Wasn't the guy in the mask confirmed to be Marth?

Yes, but the game takes places a very long time after Marth's time. The speculation is that if Masked Marth is indeed Marth, he either came to Krom's time through a time portal or being resurrected as a corpse soldier (and wears the mask to cover his glowing demonic red eyes).

Also, the person Liz is looking at in that pic is Masked Marth. She is probably gasping because she is seeing what Masked Marth really looks like underneath his mask.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Corpse Marth for Sm4sh, so his fangirls will have nightmares of him for ages.

Criipes.

 

[Zzuxon]

Speaking of him, If Dark Matter got in as a playable character, I'd imagine he'd fight like him. Tell me what you think.

 

[Big-Cat]

Speaking of him, If Dark Matter got in as a playable character, I'd imagine he'd fight like him. Tell me what you think.

I honestly don't know much about him.

 

[Sage of Ice]

IDK what his final name is.

They've put out Krom, Chrom, Chrome, Crawdad

i'm calling him David Copperfield until an official translation is announced.

anyhoo,
if mario, zelda, and pokemon got five or six characters each, would it be too much of a stretch for fire emblem to have four? that way, we get marth, roy, ike, AND david copperfield. everybody wins.

 

[Deleted member]

Dark Matter has no arms and legs. Shuma has tentacles. The two cannot copy each other.

It's like suggesting Dark Matter be similar to Captain Falcon. While it works for Ganondorf, it's because Ganondorf has a similar body.

Besides, this is the form of Dark Matter we'd get anyway:

 

[Zzuxon]

Dark Matter has no arms and legs. Shuma has tentacles. The two cannot copy each other.

It's like suggesting Dark Matter be similar to Captain Falcon. While it works for Ganondorf, it's because Ganondorf has a similar body.

Dark Matter is an amorphous blob. He could, and probably would, grow himself some tentacles. When I saw the Shuma-Gorath trailer, I thought of Dark Matter immediately. The dark Matter from Kirby 64 is more Iconic, and would in my opinion, be better and more interesting.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Kirby-reps...

Bandana Dee. He'd representate the main mooks of Kirby-series. Also we'd have all the playable characters from RTDL.

 

[Deleted member]

You're talking 02, right? As Dark Matter in 64 was just a floating eyeball and there were multiples of it.

And just because it possibly can doesn't mean it will. Likewise, Mario is a plumber, so he could, theoretically, use a plunger as a weapon.

You need to stop looking at what would be awesome and start looking at what makes sense and is reasonable.

EDIT: Besides, if we were to have a final boss from Kirby playable, Nightmare is the way to go.

 

[Metal Overlord]

haha David Copperfield

TECHNICALLY, we were going to have 3 FE characters in Brawl, anyway, so 4 reps isn't really that much of a stretch at all

 

[Zzuxon]

You're talking 02, right? As Dark Matter in 64 was just a floating eyeball and there were multiples of it. I Guess so

And just because it possibly can doesn't mean it will. Likewise, Mario is a plumber, so he could, theoretically, use a plunger as a weapon.With Dark Matter, you need to be original.

You need to stop looking at what would be awesome and start looking at what makes sense and is reasonable.

EDIT: Besides, if we were to have a final boss from Kirby playable, Nightmare is the way to go.

What is unreasonable about my reccomendation?

 

[Big-Cat]

You need to stop looking at what would be awesome and start looking at what makes sense and is reasonable.

But that would be boring.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I'd love Nightmare, he's quite iconic despite never appearing in a Kirby-game since Adventure /and let's not count Mass Attack-cameo/

My friend's been talking about Prince Sable again so I'm thinking about his chances and what he would bring in. Smash Bros though has characters that should make people "play the game", which is a Numbr.1 reguirement for looking at newcomers...

Obscure or forgotten franchises must be pretty ruled out by this.

 

[Deleted member]

It's making up something just to suit your idea of how something should work.
While things like that have happened in the past (Dedede's Jet Hammer, Captain Falcon's entire moveset, etc.), giving Dark Matter tentacles just so it can fight like Shuma-Gorath is taking it too far.
Instead of giving something practical based on design (Captain Falcon's moveset solely based on him being similar to a typical anime or Sentai hero) or a new take on an existing part of the character (Dedede "mechanizing" his hammer), you're suggesting to add a design change just to make it WORK.
This isn't that different from my idea to give Andross a humanoid body to play as him (hey, he was "normal" at some point within the StarFox series) and become the giant head and hands you see in StarFox 64 as a Final Smash, but while it's awesome, it's something that just isn't going to happen.

And no, you don't "need to be original". Dark Matter's already got a workable form that debuted in Kirby 2, and its typical eyeball with spikes form would be perfect for a Final Smash.

Besides, Nightmare is the better choice.

@Kuma: Boring, yes. However it prevents you from feeling like an idiot when your "kickass" idea is done with entirely.
Realistic > Random ideas with no base.

@Young Horsetail: There's also Nightmare in Dream Land, the remake of Adventure. And then the anime where Nightmare was the Big Bad.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Let's make Sonic slash people with his quills cause its UNEEK

 

[Deleted member]

Let's make Sonic slash people with his quills cause its UNEEK

Well, that was just a filling move for an Up Throw, but yeah, essentially this.

What if Sonic was given the ability to shoot quills at people? It's make somewhat sense because he's a hedgehog, but at the same time, it would make little sense.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Fire Emblem 13 is shaping up awesome it migh become the best in the series...so Krom possibility is undeniable now...discuss that :D

 

[shinhed-echi]

Well, that was just a filling move for an Up Throw, but yeah, essentially this.

What if Sonic was given the ability to shoot quills at people? It's make somewhat sense because he's a hedgehog, but at the same time, it would make little sense.

In case my sarcasm detector isn't working... I think that would be kinda off, as Sonic has never EVER in any of his games, shot his quills. Hedgehogs themselves don't "shoot" quills, they just drop off.

He has had a variety of ranged moves from time to time, like the shockwave spin move from Sonic Battle, or to some extent, the Blue Tornado move from Sonic Heroes.

 

[Deleted member]

I wouldn't say Krom is undeniable, but he does look promising, I admit.

I also admit that he may become legitimate competition to Roy...

@shinhed: Yeah, your sarcasm meter is broken, good sir.
I was using that as an example of why Dark Matter suddenly having tentacles and fighting like Shuma-Gorath makes some sense, but makes little sense as well.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I wouldn't say Krom is undeniable, but he does look promising, I admit.

I also admit that he may become legitimate competition to Roy...

@shinhed: Yeah, your sarcasm meter is broken, good sir.

:D

Anyway, since I brought it up, I like the idea of the Blue Tornado as recovery. (Not that I haven't loved the Spring to death). But setting up a Blue Tornado to trap your opponent while you are propelled upwards to recover, sounds like a great defensive move. (I'd think of it like leaving a MK tornado in place while you rise, OR similar to the tornadoes from Hyrule Castle in SSB).

 

[Zzuxon]

I'd love Nightmare, he's quite iconic despite never appearing in a Kirby-game since Adventure /and let's not count Mass Attack-cameo/

My friend's been talking about Prince Sable again so I'm thinking about his chances and what he would bring in. Smash Bros though has characters that should make people "play the game", which is a Numbr.1 reguirement for looking at newcomers...

Obscure or forgotten franchises must be pretty ruled out by this.

I dunno, even if I didn't know about him, if a trailer came out, and one of the newcomers was a guy who could turn into a frog, I'd be interested.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Shinheeed!!! *Palutena's Glomp*

You visit way too rarely in here, it'd be great to discuss things with DA-friend like you.

Sonic could use his Boost for Side B, plz.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I wouldn't say Krom is undeniable, but he does look promising, I admit.

I also admit that he may become legitimate competition to Roy...

@shinhed: Yeah, your sarcasm meter is broken, good sir.
I was using that as an example of why Dark Matter suddenly having tentacles and fighting like Shuma-Gorath makes some sense, but makes little sense as well.

I know you want Roy to come back but excuse my rudeness, Roy chances are demolished since Brawl if you are saying Krom might match Roy chances is just wrong tbh Krom now is the most legitimate character to be included even Lyndis have better chances than Roy, Krom is even threatening Ike spot and Marth spot is threatened to by the Masked person (who probably is Marth).

 

[Metal Overlord]

I just realized, Omega said back at the end of January that he'd be here all month AND he was going on and on before he initially left about how he would be here in February

He ain't even been here since then. Lyin' ***

Oh, and shut up, Ike Sama

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I just realized, Omega said back at the end of January that he'd be here all month AND he was going on and on before he initially left about how he would be here in February

He ain't even been here since then. Lyin' ***

Oh, and shut up, Ike Sama

Why would I ? my reasons are justified...

 

[Kolorado]

Ugh... You know, on one hand I am glad to know there is a new Smash Bros. on the way, but on the other, I kind of wish they would have saved the announcement for when they had some of the actual game done. Now it is just going to be months of debate over which characters "make sense" or are "relevent enough" to be included without any confirmations.

Though the debates on the next Smash Bros. probably started as soon as Brawl came out.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Marth, the goddamned face of Fire Emblem, is gonna have his slot taken by a random masked guy who could be Marth, the goddamned face of Fire Emblem

Ignoring all the other parts of your post, just READ to this part of your post again. If you don't see how STUPID this sounds, then I'm done here, sorry

 

[Deleted member]

I know you want Roy to come back but excuse my rudeness, Roy chances are demolished since Brawl if you are saying Krom might match Roy chances is just wrong tbh Krom now is the most legitimate character to be included even Lyndis have better chances than Roy, Krom is even threatening Ike spot and Marth spot is threatened to by the Masked person (who probably is Marth).

Well excuse my rudeness but you don't know what you are talking about.

For one, Marth is threatened by NO ONE. Even if the masked person isn't Marth as he/she claims to be, Marth, being the 1st main character of the series, as well as having the most titles of the series, AND being a two time veteran of Smash, AND being the main representative of Fire Emblem for Smash, is just as likely to be replaced as Mario.
And if really is Marth (which would either be the result of time travel or is a zombie like the other zombie knights), then he wouldn't be replaced; he'd be updated to his recent appearance.

Second, Lyn is no threat to Roy. I know what you're going to say: "But Roy wasn't in Brawl and Lyn was an Assist and she is a girl blah blah blah". Roy was cut from Brawl near the end for time. Not because he was replaced by Ike, as he wasn't.
Also, Roy is one of the most requested characters in Japan, alongside Mewtwo, another character cut from Brawl for time restraints.
Lyn has no shot, and having a vagina isn't going to boost her chances by any stretch of the means.

Third, Ike is highly unlikely to go anywhere unless it's due to time restraints (in which case, Roy won't make it in either). Cuts are made for specific reasons, and relevancy isn't one of them.
Pichu was a joke character and a clone.
Young Link was replaced by Toon Link, who is more prominent within the Zelda series (and represents the "Adult Timeline" of the Zelda branch while Link, in his TP appearance, represented the "Child Timeline". Look up the official Zelda Timeline to understand.)
Dr. Mario was a direct clone of Mario, at the point of literally being Mario.
Mewtwo and Roy were cut towards the end for time, while other characters beating them out in priority of who needs to be finished (Jigglypuff, Toon Link, and Wolf)
Dixie Kong was scrapped because Sakurai couldn't get the tag-team function to work for Diddy and Dixie.
Toon Zelda/Sheik was cut most likely due to being yet another clone.
Plusle and Minun were cut for possibly the same reason as Diddy and Dixie not working, or more likely scrapped in favor of adding Lucario instead at Pokemon Company's demands.

In summation: Marth and Ike are going to stay. It will be either Roy or Krom as the third character, or possibly, both Roy and Krom will be in along side Marth and Ike.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I know you want Roy to come back but excuse my rudeness, Roy chances are demolished since Brawl if you are saying Krom might match Roy chances is just wrong tbh Krom now is the most legitimate character to be included even Lyndis have better chances than Roy, Krom is even threatening Ike spot and Marth spot is threatened to by the Masked person (who probably is Marth).

Marth = Marth, so there's no problem. But U basically agree with everything you said. Roy only has a chance if they put in 4 FE Lords, and I think we get 3 at most. So far I still say Marth + Krom, or rather: Krom + Marth. Ike will be a nice extra, Roy would be extremely lucky.

 

[Deleted member]

At the very worst, Diddy, it's going to be Marth + Ike + Krom or Marth + Ike + Roy.

Get the damn relevancy bull**** out of your head. Ike won't be cut for Krom because Krom is new.

Roy wasn't cut for Ike. Ike won't be cut for Krom.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Lyn has no shot, and having a vagina isn't going to boost her chances by any stretch of the means.

I cracked up so bad. Maybe because the way you put it.

 

[Deleted member]

I cracked up so bad. Maybe because the way you put it.

*looks at post again*


"vagina" and "stretch"? Good lord....

 

[Diddy Kong]

At the very worst, Diddy, it's going to be Marth + Ike + Krom or Marth + Ike + Roy.

Get the damn relevancy bull**** out of your head. Ike won't be cut for Krom because Krom is new.

Roy wasn't cut for Ike. Ike won't be cut for Krom.

However you put it doesn't mather, Krom IS more likely than Roy. I personally expect 3 FE characters to, I'd probably want up to 4~5 if I could choose. But Roy really isn't making it before Krom, or Ike for the mather. He most likely WILL get in if we get 4 characters though.

 

[Metal Overlord]

"Having a VAGINA isn't going to boost her chances by any STRETCH of the means"

hurrrrrrrrr

Dammit Golden, you already beat me to it

Oh, and Diddy, no matter how much dress up your BS to look like facts and like they're reasonable, they aren't. So, uh, stop talking out da hole in ya *** please kthnxbai

 

[Deleted member]

However you put it doesn't mather, Krom IS more likely than Roy. I personally expect 3 FE characters to, I'd probably want up to 4~5 if I could choose. But Roy really isn't making it before Krom, or Ike for the mather. He most likely WILL get in if we get 4 characters though.

As I've slready said, I legitimately view Krom as potential competition for Roy.

But that doesn't mean that he outright one-ups Roy. Because again, you're using the relevancy ****.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Yeah, but also the very thing that relevancy kinda kinda kinda put in Roy in Melee, and Ike in Brawl.

MORE OR LESS

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, but also the very thing that relevancy kinda kinda kinda put in Roy in Melee, and Ike in Brawl.

MORE OR LESS

Roy didn't exist prior to Melee. If relevancy was the biggest reason, we would've had Leaf as Marth's clone.
And Ike was put in at Intelligent Systems' suggestion, not because he was new.
Yes, Sakurai was looking for a new Fire Emblem character, but it could've been anyone that debuted after Binding Blade as Sakurai wasn't specifically looking for the newEST character. (Which would've been Micaiah anyway)

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Holy cripes I actually got the KIU anime!!! /part 1/


Thanatos is now my new fave villain. The voice acting is pretty overthetop /Pit/ or stiff /Palutena/

Animation seems bit wonky or bit too slowpaced at some scenes...

Thanatos rules.