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Well chalk me up as one who thinks Smash Bros. is fine as a party game. It isn't meant to be a serious fighter, and is in fact the antithesis to such games (Sakurai's exact words). Party games aren't bad by definition; Smash Bros. proves that. I'm not arguing that new gameplay mechanics wouldn't be a great addition, but when people constantly use the words "catering to scrubs," they kind of doing like elitist @ssholes. Smash Bros. is fine as it is, and millions of scrubs like me agree. Sure, new mechanics would be fine, but I won't be butthurt if Smash Bros. 4 plays pretty much the same way as Brawl.

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That would be nice, although Melee elitists will ***** about it.
This.

Anyway I'm going to guess that it'll be mostly Brawl based, but with a few returning skills/techniques from Melee (Ex. Wavedashing?), also no more tripping.
 

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Well chalk me up as one who thinks Smash Bros. is fine as a party game. It isn't meant to be a serious fighter, and is in fact the antithesis to such games (Sakurai's exact words). Party games aren't bad by definition; Smash Bros. proves that. I'm not arguing that new gameplay mechanics wouldn't be a great addition, but when people constantly use the words "catering to scrubs," they kind of doing like elitist @ssholes. Smash Bros. is fine as it is, and millions of scrubs like me agree. Sure, new mechanics would be fine, but I won't be butthurt if Smash Bros. 4 plays pretty much the same way as Brawl.

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Then what do you call random tripping, hitstun cancelable with air dodge or just having no hitstun period, being able to grab ledges with your back facing them, floaty physics, reduced running speed, and items being ridiculously over powered? If that's not catering to scrubs, then I don't know what is.
 

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I like Brawl, just don't like its speed. L-canceling would've been so damn awesome in Brawl...

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I swear, people and L-Canceling. Just make it where the recovery is reduced on landing from aerials. Sheesh. Street Fighter and the like have managed with it being like this. For example, SF4 makes it where there's a 5 frame recovery on landing with an aerial, and 3 if it's an empty jump. I doubt that'll kill the game more than it already has been. Besides, it would be pretty hectic in a good way.
 

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Not so good with frames and all, but you mean less lag on aerials so you can do more of them faster? Sounds a bit broken for the likes of Meta Knight and Marth.

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lol Meta Knight and there's a thing called making the aerials unsafe on block among other things.
 

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That would make the aerials even stronger than ground moves than they already are... If anything I want improvement in the ground game mostly. Though I am a great fan of juggling.

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Well, why do you think I've suggested all that canceling stuff?
 

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I like Brawl, just don't like its speed. L-canceling would've been so damn awesome in Brawl...

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Yeah it definitely would.

The next smash will hopefully include the technical things like l-canceling and wavedashes, to name the most obvious.

also @falchion What was that comment supposed to mean?(assuming I read the right comment about smash.)
 

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Okay, sup guys? Got a surprise for ya. Hope no one else posted it:
Serebii said:
Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 European Launch

Following from Saturday's reveal of the new games Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2, Nintendo of Europe have confirmed that these games, due for release in June 2012 in Japan, are due for European launch in Autumn 2012 giving the game a short localisation period. We'll provide information on American launch and exact European launch dates as they come in
Edit: Nintendo of America also confirms launch in Autumn 2012. More details likely to come closer to the release
Idk who said after 2012, but they're wrooooong.
 

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I just thought of a neat idea (even though I believe there is a zero percent chance of it happening): It would be cool if the Fighting Polygon Team returned but instead of being unplayable, they are alternate outfits for the character they represent.

Like I said I have no hope of it happening but it would be cool if they did that.
 

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Yeah it definitely would.

The next smash will hopefully include the technical things like l-canceling and wavedashes, to name the most obvious.

also @falchion What was that comment supposed to mean?(assuming I read the right comment about smash.)
I'll just copy what he said.
Thanks to everyone for your opinions!!! Dissidia has a good chance of receiving the "TFG seal of approval," even though it's a long shot from the traditional fighter... Seems like it would be more properly described as an "RPG/Action/Arena Combat" game. Gameplay aside, the characters of Dissidia may very well end up being a deciding factor, especially since I am a casual Final Fantasy fan myself. As you can see, I'm still undecided about adding Dissidia, even after watching the latest gameplay videos. Like Riot.Exe stated, I also think I'll wait to play the game before officially putting it on the site. Thus far, no other title has ever been quite so "on the fence" as Dissidia...

Just to clarify a few things... Power Stone gets a free ticket to TFG because it was made entirely by Capcom, and it's an innovative VS fighting game... Castlevania: Judgment was added because... hell, it's the first ever Castlevania fighting game, and the artwork & characters of the series are great... Urban Reign is listed because it was made by Namco and features Tekken characters & animations... On the flipside, and to repeat myself, Super Smash Bros will never... ever be listed on TFG. Firstly because it's more of a platformer/shooter/variety-mess-of-things than a fighting game, and of course it features overly cutesy *cough* some washed up *cough* Nintendo mascots... Ohh yeah, and it also has... Pokemon..... D-D-Disqualified!!! To Kaboom Kid: Your justification is right there.

Kaboom Kid makes a good point however, since there are some other games that might fall under the RPG/Action/Fighter category... It's definitely something to think about, but worry not TFG fans... No matter what the case, TFG's morals will never be persuaded: You will never see a Dragonball, Naruto, One Piece, or Smash game profile on TFG. It's just the rules around here.
 

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There's always been a debate in the FG communities whether or not Smash is a fighting game. Some can't call it one because of the characters yet the Guilty Gear ones are arguably just as diverse in design and personality as the Nintendo characters so I think it's an irrelevant point for argument.

I, myself, call it a fighting game because I've called it such since I was 9 (am 21 now). It may not have health bars and K.O.s are strictly ring-outs, but your things like zoning, footsies, and mixups are still in Smash. I mean, if you want a compromise, it's a platform fighter, but just about every major videogame news site calls it a fighting game.

For this comment in particular, I think the reasoning is heavily biased.

Apparently, a better game.
Because quantity = quality amirite?
 

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Then what do you call random tripping, hitstun cancelable with air dodge or just having no hitstun period, being able to grab ledges with your back facing them, floaty physics, reduced running speed, and items being ridiculously over powered?
Apparently, a better game.
 

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I just thought of a neat idea (even though I believe there is a zero percent chance of it happening): It would be cool if the Fighting Polygon Team returned but instead of being unplayable, they are alternate outfits for the character they represent.

Like I said I have no hope of it happening but it would be cool if they did that.
If fighting polygon team made a return in the forms of alternate character models I'd be happy with all of them but a few, one of which being polygon kirby. He's so ugly.
 

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Quality = A bunch of useless fluffy junk made to widen the gap between some players to make it less of a fun party game? :troll:
 

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People are just mad its not on the 3DS, but I really couldn't care less if it was or not because I'll still be getting it.
 

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alright, i gave my two cents on your blog that pretty much referred to everyone but me, lol.
 

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It's still cheap ASage. Yeah, great how every Pokemon fan feels Gen 5 is / was great. But they still aren't resisting the opertunity to milk as much out of it as possible...

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People are just mad its not on the 3DS, but I really couldn't care less if it was or not because I'll still be getting it.
Being a huge pkmn gamer, I don't care what system it's for. I'm getting both of them, definatly.

alright, i gave my two cents on your blog that pretty much referred to everyone but me, lol.
I responded to it, though I'm not sure if it's what you meant.
 

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No, its the potential of a version 3, or an actual Gray version. Or just about anything...

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No, its the potential of a version 3, or an actual Gray version. Or just about anything...

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This I won't deny, but it's your choice whether you buy it or not. Your choice. So, quit belly-aching about it. Want all the Pokemon? Get a friend. Solved. Have no friends? Get the game.

Sorry, but that's how it goes, that's how it's always been.

Gray will be on the 3DS. Just. Watch.
Maybe there won't be a Grey. We'd never know until it'd be comfirmed.
 

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I don't see why people are complaining about there not being a Gray version. As for the 3DS, common sense says that more money can be made by making it for a system that everyone owns already.

Also a little off topic, but going off of Chrono's FE13 speculation and Masked Marth, I found this page to be rather interesting.
 

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I don't see why people are complaining about there not being a Gray version. As for the 3DS, common sense says that more money can be made by making it for a system that everyone owns already.

Also a little off topic, but going off of Chrono's FE13 speculation and Masked Marth, I found this page to be rather interesting.

To me, making a new 5th gen game and calling it black and white 2 sounds really weird. It just makes my mind automatically say that this games gonna suck. Of course, it makes sense to call it that since it's just continuing black and white.
 
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