New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Metal Overlord]

If cuts happen, then they happen, I'm not gonna actually ANTICIPATE that ****, Diddy, that's a buzzkill

 

[SmashChu]

That IS more important, but it can't be ignored that this is a fighting game, where different fighting styles (not the kind Kuma gets into) is what really adds to the game. Unfortunately I would still dismiss Junior and Krystal, because they fail the GOOD CHARACTER part, BUTBUT MAYBE ISAAC CAN COME AND PLAY...

I may just be trying to justify not adding Toad, because he is boring, but he really is boring so I can't really be blamed.

It does correlate though. With so many characters of different shapes and sizes, it comes with the territory. Checks like Ridley will be unique. And of course, it is wrong to dismiss characters just because they somehow can't be unique.

Of course, I was mainly going against Kuma's idea of characters for playstyles, so I guess we're on the same page either way.

This established character has problems going for her though.

Problems that only you think are problems.

 

[Diddy Kong]

It saves you from disappointment though

Immense imbalance is an issue. True story.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Sheik is one of the really good characters in Smash. In the top tier in Melee, and still fairly good in Melee. She has no problems.

Now, Zelda herself, which needs quite a lot of work, yes. But removing Sheik from her is not going to help in any way or form.

I don't know why we can't just have an Impa costume like Peach has a Daisy costume and be done with it. She gets her technical playable rep. Boom, done. I mean, Captain Falcon has Blood Falcon too, so we can work with that kind of rep.

 

[Metal Overlord]

So? I'm not gonna tone down my hype for the game just to "save" myself from disappointment when disappointment isn't even that bad of a thing to experience, anyway, in my opinion

Eventually, you'll get over it. It's not really that big of a deal

 

[Diddy Kong]

No she kinda sucks in Brawl actually. And I'm not satisfied with a costume. But if you are, sure, Sheik can be a Impa costume.

In fact, I'm not even defending it as much now.

The Zelda boards are almost begging for an actual Down B attack actually...

I'm not wanting to kill your hype, just lower your expectations for Sheik.

 

[Luco]

You may not be defending it AS MUCH, but you're still defending it. I'm to the point where i don't want to see this subject discussed again for at least 3 months. it's that annoying to me now.

Please guys, i'm begging you. No more, I need no more of this. D:

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'm cool with that actually. But what's the point in discussion if there's no consideration for ones points?

 

[Oasis_S]

It does correlate though. With so many characters of different shapes and sizes, it comes with the territory. Checks like Ridley will be unique. And of course, it is wrong to dismiss characters just because they somehow can't be unique.

Oh, any character can be "unique." That's not a problem. You've said yourself that any character can be made unique. It's completely true. But do they ADD something? Are they INTERESTING? Also, some characters don't have to be MADE unique. They already are. Like Isaac and the duck hunting dog aren't comparable. You actually have to try and make the dog something special, whereas with Isaac (and characters like him) it's immediately obvious that he brings something totally new to the roster.

I don't think that's the point you were even making, but I've been wanting to say that, lol.

 

[Luco]

From what i've seen, people ARE considering your points, it's just they've decided that, weighing up both sides, they prefer sheik to Impa. And thats fine, we're allowed to have different opinions, we just shouldn't mistake that for people not listening to each other. -_-

 

[Pichu Fan]

Idea that won't happen but would be cool. Zelda,Sheik,Samus,ZS Samus,Charizard,Ivysaur and Squirtle now transform using taunts. (I know that ZSS can, but it's complicated, so something simple. Ideas for replacing moves-

Zelda- New down B is nayrus love and neutral b is light bow, but not as strong as final smash
Sheik- New down B is harp of ages.
Charizard- New down B is dragon pulse
Ivysaur- New down b is powder. He either uses poison powder which poisons, sleep powder which pits to sleep, or stun spore which stuns
Squirtle- New down b is blizzard, kinda like ice climbers down b

 

[Aurane]

What's all the whining about..? Eh, nvm, I see Impa's being discussed.

@Luco Tbh, some people here don't listen, which isn't a surprise.

 

[Luco]

Actually, squirtle's one would be cool, but I think it should be more like how it was in Red. four crystal shards fall down from the sky, 2 either side of squirtle. Would be good for if he's in a pickle with lots of people near him.

 

[SmashChu]

Oh, any character can be "unique." That's not a problem. You've said yourself that any character can be made unique. It's completely true. But do they ADD something? Are they INTERESTING? Also, some characters don't have to be MADE unique. They already are. Like Isaac and the duck hunting dog aren't comparable. You actually have to try and make the dog something special, whereas with Isaac (and characters like him) it's immediately obvious that he brings something totally new to the roster.

I don't think that's the point you were even making, but I've been wanting to say that, lol.

No problem. It's a good point and I agree.

 

[Oasis_S]

Hitmonlee. The only true Sheik replacement.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

From what i've seen, people ARE considering your points, it's just they've decided that, weighing up both sides, they prefer sheik to Impa. And thats fine, we're allowed to have different opinions, we just shouldn't mistake that for people not listening to each other. -_-

Honestly, the only reason I put up with it is because I remember that Diddy said if Impa didn't make it into Sm4sh, he would NEVER bring it up again. That is the ONLY reason I put up with this crap.

@Oasis: EW. That Hitmonlee looks weird. I do NOT want to see that in HD.

 

[Deleted member]

So? I'm not gonna tone down my hype for the game just to "save" myself from disappointment when disappointment isn't even that bad of a thing to experience, anyway, in my opinion

Eventually, you'll get over it. It's not really that big of a deal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1jfvi_U__s

This.

 

[Opelucid]

Hitmonlee. The only true Sheik replacement.

It looks like it has boobs for a mouth...

And what's with all the Impa discussion these days? That's all I see here most of the time.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1jfvi_u__s

this.

Yes. Yes. Thank you, kind sir.

 

[Oasis_S]

@Oasis: EW. That Hitmonlee looks weird. I do NOT want to see that in HD.

It looks like it has boobs for a mouth...

Hmmm. That's too bad. Image doesn't show up anymore.

 

[Starphoenix]

Here is interesting interview from Yoshinori Ono with a Spanish gaming magazine.

Ono: What we saw last E3 is not a reflection of everything this console [Wii U] is able to offer. We have been trying the development kits and some of its new characteristics will improve its possibilities. It isn't something like Kinect or similar accessories, it's something different.

I can't tell you more about it because, if I do, Nintendo will send assassins to finish me! (laughs) But let’s say that Wii U will be a console with so many and unique possibilities that it will be difficult to show them in the box they are going to sell it or to be published by magazines and other mediums.

3D Juegos: Do you plan on continuing these collaborations? Off the top of my head, how about a Street Fighter X Smash Bros.? Do you have plans to talk to Masahiro Sakurai? (laughs)

Ono: ... As far as future collaborations go, I have talked to Sakurai on occasions about the possibilities but he hasn't paid much attention to the idea. I think it's my fault! (laughs) I think that if I continue to insist, Nintendo will think I'm a stalker! (laughs) ...

For those interested in the tiniest details that involve the words "Sakurai", "Wii U" and "Smash Bros". All in all we learned a good lesson. Apparently Yoshinori Ono is stalking Nintendo employees and is dying to do some kind of Nintendo cross over.

 

[Aurane]

If it's Trainer sets, I got some ideas.

Charizard (B)v: Dragon Claw
He bites foward. If he grabs someone, he'll start slashing at them as he crunches on them. Time varies depending on % calculations on the opponent. After the slash attacks, he'll fly upwards, round a complete circle, and slam the opponent into the ground. It has a chance to "Pit" opponents. If it misses, he breaths a little bit of fire for a counter measure.

Squirtle (B)v: Icy Wind
He gets in his shell, and starts spinning like he does in (B)>, but in place. An icy mist formes around him. In this stage, he cannot be hurt by physical attacks, but projectiles will still hurt him, as well as Bombs. But never use a water attack on him. If done, the water-user will auto freeze. Also, anyone nearby will be drawn above him. They can then jump off, but they take damage as they're trapped. In the air, he falls slower, but doesn't trap opponents, but dis-attracts them.

Ivysaur (B)v: Sunny Day
His body glows, and his flower on his back starts to spin. After fully charged, which takes a tiny bit longer than Lucario, he'll become a faster runner. Also, his Razor Leaf will do more damage when casted. Same with all (A) moves that makes his bulb cast an explosion.

 

[Pichu Fan]

A smash bros X street fighter would be... Weird and cool at the same time. I'd really want to see a

Nintendo VS Capcom

 

[Metal Overlord]

Nice find, Star, I personally would still love to see Nintendo x Capcom

 

[Luco]

Yeah.... With sunny day, you should have it so the whole screen becomes a bit brighter. ^^

 

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@Star: That's pretty funny. At least the interest for such a game is out there.

Spanish? I'm guessing you translated it yourself?

 

[Pichu Fan]

Mario vs Ryu
Link vs Mega Man
Pikachu vs Pheonix Wright
Kirby sucking up ryu

Pure awsom

 

[Aurane]

A smash bros X street fighter would be... Weird and cool at the same time. I'd really want to see a

Nintendo VS Capcom

Nice find, Star, I personally would still love to see Nintendo x Capcom

See, here's my thing: I wanna see Nintendo VS Capcom too, but it trails off of what Smash Bros. is suppose to be. I mean, I'd be cool with Capcom Characters, but not a game that's entitled to as a "versus" series game, like Marvel VS Capcom.

Perhaps it's too much to even say Megaman VS Samus, anymore -.-

 

[Oasis_S]

Sakurai says to Ono: "I dunno, maybe. *laughs*" but secretly thinks "Why would I want to bring my series down to YOUR level."

 

[Luco]

Where did this nintendo vs. capcom stuff spring up from? I don't even see star here. :-P

My bad. Heya star. :D

And thats interesting...... Lol, not the assassins, just what he means about all the capabilities of the wii-u.

 

[Starphoenix]

@Star: That's pretty funny. At least the interest for such a game is out there.

Spanish? I'm guessing you translated it yourself?

I could have, but NeoGAF saved me the trouble for the most part. I just thought his mentioning of the Wii U having other characteristics was an interesting note. Even more fascinating is his admission of Nintendo assassins existing and stalking Masahiro Sakurai (this is humor for those that do not get it).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460292

 

[Pichu Fan]

Sonic should be able to do this in next smash-http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?feature=grec_mobile&v=_8qDphoQPdw

 

[---]

I could have, but NeoGAF saved me the trouble for the most part. I just thought his mentioning of the Wii U having other characteristics was an interesting note. Even more fascinating is his admission of Nintendo assassins existing and stalking Masahiro Sakurai.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460292

The Japanese business world certainly sounds crazy. I'll have to ask my Sensei about that in my next Japanese class. lol

And I might as well, or course, put that in the info thread.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Sonic should be able to do this in next smash-http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?feature=grec_mobile&v=_8qDphoQPdw

PICHU, it took me to the DAMN BROWSE AGAIN!

 

[ChronoBound]

Speaking of Nintendo assassins, I think they got NyaseNya (one of the Brawl leakers) considering he has not made a post since Brawl's release. The interesting thing about that guy was that he was also a troll that would not stop talking about buttocks of Peach and various other Nintendo characters.

 

[Pichu Fan]

Then you'll love this http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=Zvavclgsp9k

 

[Luco]

It did the same to me, Pichu

I remember confirming how popular Jigglypuff is in Japan a little while ago. I asked a person about it who knew almost nothing about video games and even she was able to tell me how big Jiggs was. :D

Pichu, page error. -_-

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Then you'll love this http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=Zvavclgsp9k

It's gonna take me back to browse. I can ALREADY tell because it says "index?desktop". Try harder.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Actually, it's WORSE this time, Poppy, the link won't even work

 

[Starphoenix]

The Japanese business world certainly sounds crazy. I'll have to ask my Sensei about that in my next Japanese class. lol

And I might as well, or course, put that in the info thread.

I do not know about the entire business world, but the man certainly is.
http://i.minus.com/iKz1HnfKhN4.jpg

One of these days I have a feeling he is going to get to do his Nintendo crossover he wants to do.

Speaking of Nintendo assassins, I think they got NyaseNya (one of the Brawl leakers) considering he has not made a post since Brawl's release. The interesting thing about that guy was that he was also a troll that would not stop talking about buttocks of Peach and various other Nintendo characters.

Who knows. He could have just decided to leave too. There was another leaker who was really big if I recall? She had her own blog or something to that affect?