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I just thought of something.
You know how Palutena and Pit talk to each other during levels of Uprising?

Do you think maybe if Palutena doesn't become playable, that on say, a Kid Icarus stage, they get something similar to Snake's Codec system, in which Pit and Palutena talk about the other fighters?
 

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Still wanted my localized 12 :/ this My Unit character looked like a cool idea

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It's good, the online is better than Brawl IMO. There are hackers unfortunetly, not too many noobs though.

Just try and beat my 20+ win streak. :cool:
Okay that doesn't sound too bad. I know Metroid Prime Hunters has a crap ton of hackers. It is uber annoying getting beat by invincible guys with one hit kill blasts!

And anything is better than Brawl's online. Brawl's online (at least in NTSC) is a sick, twisted, evil joke!
 
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I have good news for gannondorf4ever. Miyamoto has stated that he liked DKC. So it's unlikely that he hates the Kremlings.
 

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Okay that doesn't sound too bad. I know Metroid Prime Hunters has a crap ton of hackers. It is uber annoying getting beat by invincible guys with one hit kill blasts!

And anything is better than Brawl's online. Brawl's online (at least in NTSC) is a sick, twisted, evil joke!
The nice thing about FE though, is that you can at least take them down with you. Heck, I've won against hackers before, it's all about strategy. :cool:
 

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Is Wolff really that broken in Shadow Dragon though? I tried him once, but he was unbearable..

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I have good news for gannondorf4ever. Miyamoto has stated that he liked DKC. So it's unlikely that he hates the Kremlings.
Well well, thank you for checking up on the facts, SSBF. There's most of my concerns out the window. Actually, it may be that he liked the Kremlings quite a bit then, if he had as much involvement in DKC as he says.

Fancy.
 

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Well well, thank you for checking up on the facts, SSBF. There's most of my concerns out the window. Actually, it may be that he liked the Kremlings quite a bit then, if he had as much involvement in DKC as he says.

Fancy.
Well don't get TOO excited. Just because Miyamoto says he liked DKC does NOT mean he liked the Kremlings. I am pretty sure that it was Nintendo who told Retro to replace the Kremlings with Tikis in DKCR. Could be wrong though.
 

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I just thought of something.
You know how Palutena and Pit talk to each other during levels of Uprising?

Do you think maybe if Palutena doesn't become playable, that on say, a Kid Icarus stage, they get something similar to Snake's Codec system, in which Pit and Palutena talk about the other fighters?
Somewhat what I thought, too. (-l,l-);

Doc Louis would also do this with Mac.
 

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I just thought of something.
You know how Palutena and Pit talk to each other during levels of Uprising?

Do you think maybe if Palutena doesn't become playable, that on say, a Kid Icarus stage, they get something similar to Snake's Codec system, in which Pit and Palutena talk about the other fighters?
Yeah, because she's already his Final Smash, and they could pull something like that, I feel those would better fit Palutena since she doesn't fight. Sakurai does love to accommodate popular characters that don't fight. UPRISING MAY CHANGE THAT SHE DOESN'T FIGHT OF COURSE. Still, I feel Medusa would have priority over her. They would both be pretty similar since they're goddesses, but Medusa would probably stand out more, especially from Pit, since she's the goddess of darkness. More complementary, y'know? It represents Kid Icarus pretty well anyway since you have Pit on the side of light, and Medusa on the side of darkness. Isn't that what it's all about? Forces of light against the forces of darkness?

STILL, this assumes Medusa will have popularity nearing Palutena's. And since they would BOTH make great additions, it really doesn't matter too much who has priority over the other.


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I am pessimistic about whether we will even see Smash 4 at this year's E3. He certainly won't have enough time to get the gameplay engine together. If we do see something it will all be CG.

However, yes, I think after a possible E3 unveil someone will probably ask him about the fate of Sonic and Snake (that is if they are not in Smash 4's unveil). Sakurai will probably only give an ambiguous answer, but leave the real information for his Japanese audience.
It might be possible to have some gameplay (a la Brawl's trailer). I've heard they are reusing the Brawl engine for this game. For Brawl, the thing was mostly built from the ground up. So we might see something.
 

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What we need is a roster of characters that would make for an interesting Adventure Mode. Adventure Mode in Brawl was well thought-out and made characters team-up that seemed unconventional at times, but worked well in the end.

SSB4 definately needs a unique, but balanced, roster that can pair up seemingly different characters from seperate series and make them work well as a team.

I was making a roster of my own based off of someone else's design, but I can't remember off the top of my head who it was :embarrass:
 

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You can also just don't bother with the picture. Lists work just as well. Welcome btw. :)
 

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I just thought of something.
You know how Palutena and Pit talk to each other during levels of Uprising?

Do you think maybe if Palutena doesn't become playable, that on say, a Kid Icarus stage, they get something similar to Snake's Codec system, in which Pit and Palutena talk about the other fighters?
That sounds like an interesting idea. How it can be used effectively is another story though.
 

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So, I did some research on hit boxes on Brawl, and I noticed that Lucario's hit box is better than anyone elses, or at least very good. I'll post a collaboration once I figure out how to record the videos I captured.

I found that it's most notable with Pit's Arrow VS Lucario's (A)v. I looked at it closely, and saw the arrow pretty much shaving his head, but no damage. Also, Bowser's Fire IS different from Charizard's fire. I saw that Charizard can pierce hit boxes more easily. From what I saw, it was kinda like pivoting fire. In otherwords, a person could be a tiny bit further away, and Charizard would hit them, and Bowser couldn't. But Bowser can cast and lock it better. Yet, Charizard can end the Flamethrower faster too.

I'm looking into hit boxes because I was playing Halo CEA, and a missle went straight between an Elite's legs without hurting him (Amazing hitbox). I want to see how much we could make % differences by Hit boxes as well.

I'll probably be gone here and there, but just for a heads up. We're suppose to hear about a Pokemon game in February, and also, my prediction for SSB4 news is now March. :urg: Just give us the damn trailer! Lol

EDIT: Oh, and another thing. I've been getting better and better with Lucario. Once Wi-Fi stops being dumb, I'll battle ya'll online.
 

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Was it ugly? If it was ugly then it was probably mine.
I was trying to look back to find who's it was & it was yours lol. I thought it looked pretty good

EDIT: BTW, thanks Diddy Kong! I was on here alittle for Brawl, & now I'm back to scope out the speculation!
 

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I think you mean hurt boxes and you can probably find pictures of characters' hurt and hit boxes in there respective guides to help you out. I know for sure toon link's hit boxes are in his guide.

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Hmmm... Team-ups that make little sense, but end up working fantastically... Sounds good to me.

Speaking of which, I once saw(I believe it was actually on Youtube) a Ridley/Starfy teamup. It was actually really good.

Welcome, Aipom! :kirby:

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I think you mean hurt boxes and you can probably find pictures of characters' hurt and hit boxes in there respective guides to help you out. I know for sure toon link's hit boxes are in his guide.

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Hurt boxes? My definers are wong >.< Sorry bout that.

Also, I'm taking a breath-in myself because I've noticed that those guides either are missing something or are wrong. I won't trust them, so I'll just test it myself, which isn't a problem because I don't have work today.

The way I see it, Lucario's "Hurt Box" is better than most, but I have not tested Olimar, Wolf, Donkey Kong, and Ness. Next will be hit boxes, which I have the definition of now.
 

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so what you guys talking about :0
Well, Idk about them, but I was talking about Hurt boxes on Lucario and others. I'll be seeing if I can scratch the surface of % building. It sounds like simple knowledge, but it's a study for SSB4.
 

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Lucario's hitboxes is what Mewtwo should've had in Melee.

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I MUST HAVE PAPER MARIO/MR. GAME AND WATCH TEAMUP! THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO! caps

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Lucario's hitboxes is what Mewtwo should've had in Melee.

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Hit boxes are next on my study, so I'll make sure to not overlook Melee. Same goes for Hurt boxes.

I MUST HAVE PAPER MARIO/MR. GAME AND WATCH TEAMUP! THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO! caps

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Wow, um. Yeah, I want Raichu and Pikachu team up :cool:

its so boring am gonna play
street fighter alpha 3 XD
I wanna play online Halo right now ._. but my Wi-Fi still sucks, and my ethernet cable doesn't work either O~o

@Metal He was talking to me :|
 

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There is no one topic Smash Wimp, people are just randomly bringing up stuff at this point

What's good, y'all? :ohwell:
Aipom brought up a point where some teamups in Subspace didn't make sense, but they worked well(e.g. Olimar/Captain Falcon, Pikachu/Samus, Fox/Diddy).

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Hmmm... Team-ups that make little sense, but end up working fantastically... Sounds good to me.

Speaking of which, I once saw(I believe it was actually on Youtube) a Ridley/Starfy teamup. It was actually really good.

Welcome, Aipom! :kirby:

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Since I believe Samus was paired with Pikachu since she was helped out by ANIMAL BUDDIES in Super Metroid, It'd be neat if, IN SORT OF THE SAME VEIN, Pokemon Trainer mistook Ridley as a legendary Pokemon and caught him.

I dunno, I kind of see Ridley as more of an ATTACK DOG OF SORTS used by Ganondorf or some other big baddie. Mother Brain might be a boss, so maybe she could be worked into the plot somehow?
 

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@asage
The only thing the toon link guide is missing is hurt boxes and I'm pretty sure the hit box data is accurate because of my own experiences, dojo info, and the fact it was done by the very competent toon, Rutger. But I understand completely wanting to do it yourself. Good luck.

We need a Toon link + tingle team IMO =].

Ridley could be a shiny aerodactyl in PT's eyes.

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I though something cool in ssb4 sse would be wario riding on Ridley as a new way of transportation and the. Going back in time using some sort of machine to the times of Mr GaW, ROB, ice climbers,etc.

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Aipom brought up a point where some teamups in Subspace didn't make sense, but they worked well(e.g. Olimar/Captain Falcon, Pikachu/Samus, Fox/Diddy).

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That's a good point. That reminds me, if/when Metwo and Roy come back, they need their own kickass entrance themes for Adventure Mode

Hell, even their stage intros should be overly elaborate just to drive home the fact that they've returned :smirk:
 

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I have good news for gannondorf4ever. Miyamoto has stated that he liked DKC. So it's unlikely that he hates the Kremlings.
He has also stated what are his favorite creations.

LA: So it all came together simultaneously. OK, tougher question: Give us your favorite Nintendo characters.

SM: It’s hard because every character is important to me. Mario, Peach, Luigi, Koopa. Zelda. Toad. Of course, Link. I should also mention Donkey Kong… it’s hard. To me, Mario is a very convenient character. I’m the type of person who thinks of gameplay first, then thinks about the most suitable character for the game. Mario happens to be a versatile character who can do anything. That’s how I think about things. Like in Wii Fit, I do not think that Mario would be suitable for that. He would be strange for the Wii Fit to me.
I find Toad interesting considering how a lot of people on the internet tend to toss him in the waste basket.
 
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