New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Aurane]

Speaking of characters, here's my favs list of wanting to see fight each other:

Ridley VS Charizard
Gannondorf VS Ghirahim
Raichu VS Pikachu
Lucario VS Mewtwo OR Zoroark
Young Link VS Toon Link
Master Chief Vs Samus
Victini VS Mario

That's all I can think of at the second.

 

[Oasis_S]

Rofl@Mario not being suitable for WiiFit. Who would want to try and lose weight with a fat plumber as an instructor. Good call, Miyamoto.

 

[Big-Cat]

Rofl@Mario not being suitable for WiiFit. Who would want to try and lose weight with a fat plumber as an instructor. Good call, Miyamoto.

Don't forget that creepy Just Dance cameo.

I like how Miyamoto thinks like I do for putting gameplay at a priority.

 

[Rosalina suporter]

I think he would be better as an Assist Trophy thats what mint lol.

 

[Metal Overlord]

No, at the most he can get in as an Assist Trophy.

He?

10bulmas

 

[Aipom]

The way I saw it, characters in Brawl could be split up into several categories in Adventure Mode.

1. Heroes - Fairly obvious. People like Mario, Pit & Samus. Always trying to rescue someone or take down a villain. There will always be an abundance of this type of character is SSB4.

2. Villains - Another obvious typing. This includes Ganondorf and Bowser. Not all villains will be playable, such as Tabuu, but I feel there will be more playable villains in SSB4.

3. Comic Relief - This type of character can be good, bad or neutral; all they have to do is be slightly less serious and do humorous things. Diddy Kong is a good example, he helped out but it was funny to see him with Fox. There will be a couple of comic relief characters in the next game.

4. 'In-It-For-Yourself" - This is the loner character who is often seen going out & doing whatever they want to. King Dedede and Wario fit into this category. They both went around turning people into trophies for their own personal gain. They can have an alternative motive, which Dedede arguably had, but they're interesting to watch. There will probably be close to the same amount of these as comic relief characters.

5. Pawns - These characters are basically there to be manipulated. This is where Game&Watch and ROB came into play for the story mode. They were both being used by someone more powerful or smarter than themselves. They aren't inherently bad, they just do what they're told; or they're controlled. I see a few characters being in this category for SSB4.

With these 5 categories for Adventure Mode, the combinations for epic battles or team-ups are endless!!! Sakurai could take this mode anywhere, and hopefully he'll make it very creative.

 

[Rosalina suporter]

He?

10bulmas

Brido thinks he is a she lol its on wiki.

 

[Opelucid]

I think he would be better as an Assist Trophy thats what mint lol.

What? I can't understand what you are saying, if your saying that Birdo would be better as an Assist Trophy then yes I agree with you.

He?

10bulmas

I remember hearing that in Japan Birdo was a boy that thought he was a girl, but in the US they changed that in order to avoid controversial issues.

 

[Oasis_S]

They way I saw it, characters in Brawl could be split up into several categories in Adventure Mode.

1. Heroes - Fairly obvious. People like Mario, Pit & Samus. Always trying to rescue someone or take down a villain. There will always be an abundance of this type of character is SSB4.

2. Villains - Another obvious typing. This includes Ganondorf and Bowser. Not all villains will be playable, such as Tabuu, but I feel there will be more playable villains in SSB4.

3. Comic Relief - This type of character can be good, bad or neutral; all they have to do is be slightly less serious and do humorous things. Diddy Kong is a good example, he helped out but it was funny to see him with Fox. There will be a couple of comic relief characters in the next game.

4. 'In-It-For-Yourself" - This is the loner character who is often seen going out & doing whatever they want to. King Dedede and Wario fit into this category. They both went around turning people into trophies for their own personal gain. They can have an alternative motive, which Dedede arguably had, but they're interesting to watch. There will probably be close to the same amount of these as comic relief characters.

5. Pawns - These characters are basically there to be manipulated. This is where Game&Watch and ROB came into play for the story mode. They were both being used by someone more powerful or smarter than themselves. They aren't inherently bad, they just do what they're told; or they're controlled. I see a few characters being in this category for SSB4.

With these 5 categories for Adventure Mode, the combinations for epic battles or team-ups are endless!!! Sakurai could take this mode anywhere, and hopefully he'll make it very creative.

Hmmm, pretty well thought out. I vote Toad as comic relief, Goroh as In-it-for-himself, and possibly Saki and Mewtwo as pawns?

 

[Rosalina suporter]

What? I can't understand what you are saying, if your saying that Birdo would be better as an Assist Trophy then yes I agree with you.

Lol yeas thats what mint sorry.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Aipom- I'm hoping we have a "high-ranking minion who feigns loyalty to his superior(s) until a certain opportunity arises to usurp his masters for ultimate power" type of archetype again. Lol, I forget what that's called, but that's basically what Ganondorf was in the SSE

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

The way I saw it, characters in Brawl could be split up into several categories in Adventure Mode.

1. Heroes - Fairly obvious. People like Mario, Pit & Samus. Always trying to rescue someone or take down a villain. There will always be an abundance of this type of character is SSB4.

2. Villains - Another obvious typing. This includes Ganondorf and Bowser. Not all villains will be playable, such as Tabuu, but I feel there will be more playable villains in SSB4.

3. Comic Relief - This type of character can be good, bad or neutral; all they have to do is be slightly less serious and do humorous things. Diddy Kong is a good example, he helped out but it was funny to see him with Fox. There will be a couple of comic relief characters in the next game.

4. 'In-It-For-Yourself" - This is the loner character who is often seen going out & doing whatever they want to. King Dedede and Wario fit into this category. They both went around turning people into trophies for their own personal gain. They can have an alternative motive, which Dedede arguably had, but they're interesting to watch. There will probably be close to the same amount of these as comic relief characters.

5. Pawns - These characters are basically there to be manipulated. This is where Game&Watch and ROB came into play for the story mode. They were both being used by someone more powerful or smarter than themselves. They aren't inherently bad, they just do what they're told; or they're controlled. I see a few characters being in this category for SSB4.

With these 5 categories for Adventure Mode, the combinations for epic battles or team-ups are endless!!! Sakurai could take this mode anywhere, and hopefully he'll make it very creative.

I feel Starfy would fit under Heroes and Comic Relief. Paper Mario would fit under Heroes, but COULD be a Pawn in the right hands(meaning sort of like Pikachu).

 

[Oasis_S]

@Aiprom- I'm hoping we have a "high-ranking minion who feigns loyalty to his superior(s) until a certain opportunity arises to usurp his masters for ultimate power" type of archetype again. Lol, I forget what that's called, but that's basically what Ganondorf was in the SSE

The douchebag archetype.

 

[Aipom]

@Aiprom- I'm hoping we have a "high-ranking minion who only feigns loyalty to his superior(s) until a certain opportunity arises to usurp his masters for ultimate power" type of archetype again. Lol, I forget what that's called, but that's basically what Ganondorf was in the SSE

Yeah, I'm guessing that the final villain will be a Super Smash-created character, maybe Tabuu again but it's debatable.

I put Ganondorf with villains because out of all the villains in Brawl, he seemed to be the highest ranking. He served directly to Master Hand and even betrayed Bowser at one point. Technically that could make him seem like a pawn to Tabuu, but I see it more that he was a villain but a more powerful villain came about that he had to take down.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Diddy was pretty much a hero to, willing to safe DK all on his own. Was one of the better parts of SSE, and a awesome DKC2 reference. Teaming up with Fox and Falco was really cool to, one of the better pairings I felt.

 

[Opelucid]

SSB4 Adventure Mode

Heroes
Mario
Luigi
Toad
Yoshi
Link
Kirby
Fox
Falco
Pikachu
Zoroark
Pokemon Trainer
Samus/ZSS
Ness
Lucas
Issac
Little Mac
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Pit
Marth
Ike
Roy
Olimar
Ice Climbers
R.O.B
Takamaru
Captain Falcon

Neutral( They help out the Heroes from time to time.)
Meta Knight
Mewtwo

Comic Relief
Jigglypuff
Starfy
King Dedede
Game and Watch

Damsel in Distress
Peach
Zelda
Palutena

Villains

High Ranking
Ganondorf
Medusa
Bowser

Middle Ranking
Wolf
Ridley
Mewtwo*(Spy)

Low Ranking
King K. Rool
Wario
King Dedede(Kicked Out)

 

[Aipom]

Diddy was pretty much a hero to, willing to safe DK all on his own. Was one of the better parts of SSE, and a awesome DKC2 reference. Teaming up with Fox and Falco was really cool to, one of the better pairings I felt.

Yeah I 100% agree with you. Alot of characters fell into more than 1 category, especially the comic relief characters. Diddy definately was a hero, but he also did things that made people laugh, like dragging away Fox.

 

[Aipom]

@Opelucid - No Game & Watch?

EDIT: Oops. Double post

 

[Metal Overlord]

Yeah, I'm guessing that the final villain will be a Super Smash-created character, maybe Tabuu again but it's debatable.

I put Ganondorf with villains because out of all the villains in Brawl, he seemed to be the highest ranking. He served directly to Master Hand and even betrayed Bowser at one point. Technically that could make him seem like a pawn to Tabuu, but I see it more that he was a villain but a more powerful villain came about that he had to take down.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I think Crazy Hand might have a role this time... maybe to avenge Master Hand's death? And then maybe they'll have another original boss again... I'm kinda doubting Tabuu will come back because I think when he was defeated... his "essence or conscience was all seperated into all the locations in Subspace? So it'll probably be pretty hard to bring him back, I guess. I dunno if that makes sense to you or not...

 

[Disfunkshunal]

@JD
neutral should be changed to mercs for hire and ice climbers, toad, lucas, and olimar should be move to comic relief

 

[Opelucid]

Oops I must have missed him okay he's added.

 

[Pseudomaniac]

Speaking of story mode, does anyone else think it'd be better if the enemies were actual Nintendo baddies instead of the Primids? I mean we had Bowser's minions, but we could have had a lot more variety than just Goombas, Koopas, Hammer Bros, and Bullet Bills. Plus, most of the other series in the game had some baddies that could be used in story mode.

Also, was anyone else really disappointed with Brawl's boss fights? I was kind of expecting them to be based on the actual fights with said bosses in their original games but then they ended up being fairly generic beat-em'-up boss fights.

 

[Rosalina suporter]

What about, Haveing customizable character option's in ssb4?

I don't mean makeing a character mean,Customizing what there wearing like swiching from new costumes to old costumes. from the different games they have been in befor battle.I hope they updat creat a level option.

 

[Aipom]

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I think Crazy Hand might have a role this time... maybe to avenge Master Hand's death? And then maybe they'll have another original boss again... I'm kinda doubting Tabuu will come back because I think when he was defeated... his "essence or conscience was all seperated into all the locations in Subspace? So it'll probably be pretty hard to bring him back, I guess. I dunno if that makes sense to you or not...

Yeah, I was disappointed with the lack of Crazy Hand in Adventure Mode in Brawl. However, I think Master Hand may return since he's basically the trademark villain from the first game.

Everything you said about Tabuu makes perfect sense. They probably wil create a new character for his role, but no one will be able to accurately guess what he'll be like.

 

[Baskerville]

Just going to leave characters I personally want to see:

Shiida: One of the main female protagonists in the Fire Emblem series and could easily break up the monotony of sword users.

Ghirahim: I know its too soon but he has potential to be a unique and interesting fighter and you can easily create moveset for him.

Ridley: Given

Takamaru: A Samurai in any Fighting Game is instantly awesome.

Megaman X: Honestly not a big fan of Classic.

Rosalina: A character that has been getting a lot of popularity since Mario Galaxy. Although I'm scared that she will be a Peach clone though.....

Little Mac: A loved series by fans and defiantly deserves a spot.

Palutena/Medusa: Either one would be great.

Travis Touchdown: I'm pretty sure most of you would go all WTF on me but Goichi Suda actually said if he wanted Travis in Smash he would do it. Hey if they could make Snake work then I'm sure they'll do the same for Travis.

 

[Opelucid]

What about, Haveing customizable character option's in ssb4?

I don't mean makeing a character mean,Customizing what there wearing like swiching from new costumes to old costumes. from the different games they have been in befor battle.I hope they updat creat a level option.

Different games they've been in before? We kind of already have that with Wario having his overalls if that's what your trying to get at. And no offense to your or anything but can you try to touch up on your spelling it makes it hard for others to try to understand what you're trying to say.

 

[Banjodorf]

Well don't get TOO excited. Just because Miyamoto says he liked DKC does NOT mean he liked the Kremlings. I am pretty sure that it was Nintendo who told Retro to replace the Kremlings with Tikis in DKCR. Could be wrong though.

See, I assumed the same thing. That's what I meant by Miyamoto not liking...yeah. My thinking here is, if he had such close involvement in DKC's creation, and didn't like the Kremlings, why did he allow them to exist? That, and why did he allow them in Super Sluggers, and seemingly make such a positive big deal out of their involvement, especially K. Rool's, who, as far as I can remember, was the last unlockable character through some convoluted means in DK Jungle.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

@aipom
if they wanted to do something potentially shocking and IMO cool they'd play on the master hand/crazy hand creation/destruction thing. Master hand would have to become a good guy though.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I would've loved to see Master Hand dealing the final blow to Tabuu in SSE by suddenly coming back to life, and pimp slapping Tabuu to where ever the hell he belongs.

 

[Aipom]

Speaking of story mode, does anyone else think it'd be better if the enemies were actual Nintendo baddies instead of the Primids? I mean we had Bowser's minions, but we could have had a lot more variety than just Goombas, Koopas, Hammer Bros, and Bullet Bills. Plus, most of the other series in the game had some baddies that could be used in story mode.

Also, was anyone else really disappointed with Brawl's boss fights? I was kind of expecting them to be based on the actual fights with said bosses in their original games but then they ended up being fairly generic beat-em'-up boss fights.

I'd suport using actual game enemies instead of Primids. I would leave a few Primid-like things in, but make the enemies more tailor-made to whatever series the level your playing is. Waddle Dees for Kirby, the pterodactyl for Ice Climbers (lol), etc

The Boss Fights would be more difficult though. The more in-depth the boss's moves are, the more time they have to spend on it. This could be the difference between characters getting cut or becoming clones because they would have to spend alot more time on the bosses. However, they could use alittle tweaking.

 

[Zzuxon]

On the topic of adventure mode, here is a plot I made:
Crazy Hand and Master Hand are the lords of the multiverse. They can manipulate the universes relative positions and create new ones. 1 day, Crazy Hand finds a small universe he had never seen before. Curious, he enters. It is filled with floating fluorescent spheres, that interestingly, bear the symbol of the hands, an off-centered cross.(They are Smash Balls, if you haven't guessed). He pokes one. It breaks and he surges with energy, and more madness. He breaks more. Now even crazier, he heads for the Universes. Though mad, he is not stupid, so he first visits the universe of Dark Bugs. He takes control of them, and gheads for the mushroom kingdom. He invades with Primid minions. Some are equipped with trophy guns. Rather than target the heroes however, they trophyize generic enemies, like goombas and koopas. They return the trophies to the Hand ship, Crazy Hands flagship. Mario, Peach, Luigi and Toad are hiding. They see Bowser Outside preparing to challenge Crazy Hand. Mario has a flash back, of Bowser assisting him defeating Tabuu. He prepares to go help Bowser, but crazy hand hits Bowser with a ray of smashball light, posessing him. Bowser is pulled into The Handship, and it flies over the horizon. A similar scene plays out across the Multiverse. Dark bugs have copied the trophies of minions, and the army is now a mix of Primids and generic enemies. Meanwhile master hand is recuperating in his own private universe, recuperating from his battle with Tabuu. He senses a disturbance. He investigates, and sees what has happened. Master Hand isn't exactly a good samaritan, but he doesn't want Crazy Hand destroying his creations. He goe to the universes and raises a resistance. He recruits the heros and heroines of the multiverse, any followers they may have, as well as the henchmen of those possesed by Crazy Hand, seeking to rescue their leader. He recruits powerful Aliies, such as legendary Pokemon, The 7 Sages, Rosalina, and more. He even recruits generic minions, seeking revenge for the loss of their masters. Crazy hand may be powerful, but he is far from invincible, for an army is rising against him.
Protagonists:
The "characters" (Playable)
Master Hand
Various generic fighters, such as Toad soldiers and Goombas, Hyrule soldiers and Octoroks. Any sort of generic henchman, good or bad.
Portagonists that would be God-Moddy to play as, like the 7 sages, and legendary PKMN. Palkia plays an especially important Role.

Villains:
Crazy Hand
Various Characters and Bosses possesed by Crazy hand. They later regain their freedom and turn against him. Crazy Hand tries to Posess Tom Nook and Dedede, but they succesfully resist him.
Primids and generic enemy copies.


What do you think?

 

[Oasis_S]

I guess not every series would have its generic enemies in the story mode, but what could Fire Emblem lend? What are they called... barbarians?

Also those BEES (Zingers?) from DKC should be in alongside the Kremlings and Klaptraps. Maybe those stupid beavers too. Would also hope Ridley leads a bunch of Space Pirates~

 

[Opelucid]

On the topic of adventure mode, here is a plot I made:
Crazy Hand and Master Hand are the lords of the multiverse. They can manipulate the universes relative positions and create new ones. 1 day, Crazy Hand finds a small universe he had never seen before. Curious, he enters. It is filled with floating fluorescent spheres, that interestingly, bear the symbol of the hands, an off-centered cross.(They are Smash Balls, if you haven't guessed). He pokes one. It breaks and he surges with energy, and more madness. He breaks more. Now even crazier, he heads for the Universes. Though mad, he is not stupid, so he first visits the universe of Dark Bugs. He takes control of them, and gheads for the mushroom kingdom. He invades with Primid minions. Some are equipped with trophy guns. Rather than target the heroes however, they trophyize generic enemies, like goombas and koopas. They return the trophies to the Hand ship, Crazy Hands flagship. Mario, Peach, Luigi and Toad are hiding. They see Bowser Outside preparing to challenge Crazy Hand. Mario has a flash back, of Bowser assisting him defeating Tabuu. He prepares to go help Bowser, but crazy hand hits Bowser with a ray of smashball light, posessing him. Bowser is pulled into The Handship, and it flies over the horizon. A similar scene plays out across the Multiverse. Dark bugs have copied the trophies of minions, and the army is now a mix of Primids and generic enemies. Meanwhile master hand is recuperating in his own private universe, recuperating from his battle with Tabuu. He senses a disturbance. He investigates, and sees what has happened. Master Hand isn't exactly a good samaritan, but he doesn't want Crazy Hand destroying his creations. He goe to the universes and raises a resistance. He recruits the heros and heroines of the multiverse, any followers they may have, as well as the henchmen of those possesed by Crazy Hand, seeking to rescue their leader. He recruits powerful Aliies, such as legendary Pokemon, The 7 Sages, Rosalina, and more. He even recruits generic minions, seeking revenge for the loss of their masters. Crazy hand may be powerful, but he is far from invincible, for an army is rising against him.
Protagonists:
The "characters" (Playable)
Master Hand
Various generic fighters, such as Toad soldiers and Goombas, Hyrule soldiers and Octoroks. Any sort of generic henchman, good or bad.
Portagonists that would be God-Moddy to play as, like the 7 sages, and legendary PKMN. Palkia plays an especially important Role.

Villains:
Crazy Hand
Various Characters and Bosses possesed by Crazy hand. They later regain their freedom and turn against him. Crazy Hand tries to Posess Tom Nook and Dedede, but they succesfully resist him.
Primids and generic enemy copies.


What do you think?

I don't know it seems a little too complex to be honest a simple adventure mode like the one from Melee would be fine with me.

 

[Starphoenix]

I guess not every series would have its generic enemies in the story mode, but what could Fire Emblem lend? What are they called... barbarians?

Also those BEES (Zingers?) from DKC should be in alongside the Kremlings and Klaptraps. Maybe those stupid beavers too. Would also hope Ridley leads a bunch of Space Pirates~

Tikis. That is all.

 

[Oasis_S]

First of all, is it not "Tikies"? Second, you're a jerk hole.

Aren't the Space Pirates all about creating bio-weapons by experimenting on ORGANISMS? Sounds like they would be the ones to create Mewtwo.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I guess not every series would have its generic enemies in the story mode, but what could Fire Emblem lend? What are they called... barbarians?

Also those BEES (Zingers?) from DKC should be in alongside the Kremlings and Klaptraps. Maybe those stupid beavers too. Would also hope Ridley leads a bunch of Space Pirates~

For Fire Emblem anything could work. Generic sword fighters as mymirdons, swordmasters, mercenaries, heroes. Or knights, paladins, mages, pegasus / wyvern knights... Also dragons? If Chrome is in there however; undead warriors. And I think he will, so : undead warriors it will be.

Mewtwo being stolen by Space Pirates, then going on killing them all ending up facing Ridley is the best scenario they could come up with. Ever.

 

[Rosalina suporter]

Different games they've been in before? We kind of already have that with Wario having his overalls if that's what your trying to get at. And no offense to your or anything but can you try to touch up on your spelling it makes it hard for others to try to understand what you're trying to say.

Yeas some what like wario,But some character's may have different colors of the same costume thru out the years of each game they have been in.

I mint more like Mario and Dr.Mario,There the same mario just with a different costume.How bout just makeing it so Mario can wear the Dr mario costume rather than adding Dr.Mario in a character space. If any of that makes any clear since lol.

I know i have a spelling probblem i didin't think it was that bad lol.

 

[Aurane]

So, word out: I'm planning on becomin a premium member soon.

 

[Baskerville]

So, word out: I'm planning on becomin a premium member soon.

Good luck to ya. =)

 

[yani]

Sakurai your cat is adorable but please just tweet us some ssb4 info. That is all