New Smash Bros for WiiU

[RVD_fan]

For a Pokemon stage, Twist Mountain could be interesting, changing based on the season, which could either be pre-selected or just rotated through during the fight.

 

[gsninja]

^^^^ we need more golden sun rep really bad, assist trophy was good but i think isaac, garet and felix need to be playable characters

Totally needs more rep. Brawl managed to fit in a combined remix of Felix's battle theme and the Doom Dragon theme, but that's not nearly enough.

I'm expecting one playable character (Isaac or Matthew) and a stage. If we're REALLY lucky, maybe even another Assist Trophy. It's not a huge franchise or anything, so I think GS fans would blessed just having a playable character in the first place haha

EDIT: Twist Mountain would be SICK, that's a good suggestion.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Travis touchdown sounds like a horrible idea

 

[Deleted member]

^^^^ we need more golden sun rep really bad, assist trophy was good but i think isaac, garet and felix need to be playable characters

I'm not sure if the console version will even get any playable Golden Sun characters. Maybe one of {Issac, Matthew} but that's it. If all three gets in, at least one will be a clone of each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VETnNiZl5lU&feature=fvst

K. Rool's chances in Smash. With his removal in the newest donkey kong series, I don't see it happening.

King K. Rool is a popular request for Super Smash Bros. 4 and is next to Ridley in the most popular Nintendo villains request. At least one new villain is almost guarantee for the next game, if Ridley doesn't make it in, King K. Rool probably will or even both of them.

 

[majora_787]

Travis touchdown sounds like a horrible idea

Maybe because he's a 3rd party character who's yet another sword character. He's a vertex hack over Ike for a reason. :3

EDIT: If I had to guess, Golden-Sun would be exclusive to the 3DS version.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

i'd still like to see more Sega characters and at least 1 GS character make it. Tails and Knuckles would do well in the smash universe

 

[Chidosengan]

I'm not sure if the console version will even get any playable Golden Sun characters. Maybe one of {Issac, Matthew} but that's it. If all three gets in, at least one will be a clone of each other.King K. Rool is a popular request for Super Smash Bros. 4 and is next to Ridley in the most popular Nintendo villains request. At least one new villain is almost guarantee for the next game, if Ridley doesn't make it in, King K. Rool probably will or even both of them.

So they were for Brawl and neither got in.

 

[RVD_fan]

Oh, and can't forget about Waluigi

 

[majora_787]

So they were for Brawl and neither got in.

If you want to be a ********* about it, they were in Melee and Smash 64 but never got in.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Oh, and can't forget about Waluigi

The problem with Waluigi is that he's deliberately a spin-off character.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

The problem with Waluigi is that he's deliberately a spin-off character.

Well, this pretty much is a spin off series

 

[RVD_fan]

The problem with Waluigi is that he's deliberately a spin-off character.

But he's also a key character in the Mario series storyline

 

[majora_787]

But he's also a key character in the Mario series storyline

... Storyline? The Mario series has a storyline now? xD I thought it was just a huge number of recurring instances of princess kidnapping. Silly me? =P

 

[SixWingedAsura]

I want to see Fierce Deity Link. (Yes yes, I know he only appeared in one game as a gamebreaking bonus item but I can dream!) If not him, then let my dreams be realized of playing as a Snorlax.

But in all seriousness...

Link for top tier!

 

[Deleted member]

i'd still like to see more Sega characters and at least 1 GS character make it. Tails and Knuckles would do well in the smash universe

As fun as Tails and Knuckles sound, I highly doubt it'll be the case. Only three or four max will probably get in and I highly doubt they'll waste it with more Sonic characters.

Oh, and can't forget about Waluigi

Should remain an Assist Trophy for this game. He's purely a spin-off character.

And your explanation is unjustified. He has not appeared in any of the mainstream Mario games. They'll be looking at canon characters before even touching purely spin-offs characters.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well, this pretty much is a spin off series

But he's also a key character in the Mario series storyline

In actuality, I do want Waluigi to be playable, but the hard fact remains that because he hasn't appeared in any mainstream titles, he's probably gonna be stuck as an Assist Trophy again.

 

[SixWingedAsura]

In actuality, I do want Waluigi to be playable, but the hard fact remains that because he hasn't appeared in any mainstream titles, he's probably gonna be stuck as an Assist Trophy again.

What would Waluigi even do moveset wise? Tennis Racquet beatdown?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

What would Waluigi even do moveset wise? Tennis Racquet beatdown?

Mario Strikers Charged does give you some possible moves that he can use. But again, being spin-off exclusive, he'll likely not make the cut as a playable.

 

[SixWingedAsura]

Mario Strikers Charged does give you some possible moves that he can use. But again, being spin-off exclusive, he'll likely not make the cut as a playable.

Ah, but you can dream can't you?

 

[RVD_fan]

... Storyline? The Mario series has a storyline now? xD I thought it was just a huge number of recurring instances of princess kidnapping. Silly me? =P

God, did you even PLAY Mario Super Sluggers?

 

[majora_787]

God, did you even PLAY Mario Super Sluggers?

Wait, Super Mario Sluggers holds the entire alleged timeline for the entire series?! That sounds like an amazing game.

 

[Mr.C]

Hopefully they don't remove everything remotely advanced in the new Smash Bros. Tired of game developers setting limits for their player base, especially Sakurai for purposely removing in-depth elements of game play like it effects the everyday casual or something.

The hallmark of ANY game at any high-level of play is directly related to creative and abusive use of game mechanics that weren't necessarily intended, these strategies are only capable of being used in games that aren't created to limit player skill level. Hopefully, they don't screw up this game, if they actually allow players to maximize their skill according to their potential instead of limiting this through stale game mechanics, the new game might be as great as Melee.

 

[RVD_fan]

Wait, Super Mario Sluggers holds the entire alleged timeline for the entire series?! That sounds like an amazing game.

You do get an intense look into the backgrounds and journeys of all the characters in a incredibly deep single-player Action-RPG hybrid.

Turns out Waluigi has always had deep feelings of inadequacy, and since being on the streets from an early age, has focused his insecurities outwards and taken out his frustration on others.

His special "Liar Ball" pitch is a true insight into the depths of his incredibly deep phyche. Truly a character of this emotional magnitude must be represented in Nintendo's gathering of beloved characters?

 

[Deleted member]

Seriously, though, Waluigi having a moveset being based on the various sports titles would be pretty cool.

 

[SixWingedAsura]

Seriously, though, Waluigi having a moveset being based on the various sports titles would be pretty cool.

If he was playable and his forward smash was a baseball bat (weakened of course) with the same sound, I would die laughing.

 

[majora_787]

Unless it's BitF Waluigi, I'm not sold. Sorry.

 

[Big-Cat]

Since all protests to reduce character discussions have been ignored, I might as well bring this up.

The only criteria ever said by Sakurai for character inclusion that the character must not be hated and bring something new to the table. Nothing else. If you're gonna discuss characters, at least discuss them intelligently instead of bringing up pointless requirements.

 

[majora_787]

Since all protests to reduce character discussions have been ignored, I might as well bring this up.

The only criteria ever said by Sakurai for character inclusion that the character must not be hated and bring something new to the table. Nothing else. If you're gonna discuss characters, at least discuss them intelligently instead of bringing up pointless requirements.

And they have to originate on a video game console. Having history with Nintendo really helps, but that's not a requirement anymore... it just really, really helps your chances.

 

[SixWingedAsura]

Unless it's BitF Waluigi, I'm not sold. Sorry.

OMGYES.

His final smash needs to be "Waluigi Time!"

 

[Big-Cat]

And they have to originate on a video game console. Having history with Nintendo really helps, but that's not a requirement anymore... it just really, really helps your chances.

We really don't have a precedent for that outside of Sonic.

 

[Peachiihime]

It can use multiple wii controllers, but it can only use 1 wii-u controller (The one with the screen)

Oh, I see. So you can still use the old Wii controller.

Silly me

 

[Deleted member]

And they have to originate on a video game console. Having history with Nintendo really helps, but that's not a requirement anymore... it just really, really helps your chances.

Another requirement to keep in note is that they must have appeared in at least one Nintendo platform.

 

[UberMario]

I wonder if they'll continue the trend of replacing Bowser's Side B move. It'd be interesting if it was swapped out for this.

 

[Gallowglass]

You do get an intense look into the backgrounds and journeys of all the characters in a incredibly deep single-player Action-RPG hybrid.

Turns out Waluigi has always had deep feelings of inadequacy, and since being on the streets from an early age, has focused his insecurities outwards and taken out his frustration on others.

His special "Liar Ball" pitch is a true insight into the depths of his incredibly deep phyche. Truly a character of this emotional magnitude must be represented in Nintendo's gathering of beloved characters?

That's a really in depth view of Waluigi. He would be tough to make into a character but also it is possible. I don't like the all sports moves idea because then he would be like a Casey Jones of Smash (Ninja Turtle Reference). He needs more sinister moves.

 

[majora_787]

We really don't have a precedent for that outside of Sonic.

Snake is a character too. I know, I missed that when I first played Brawl. :3

 

[RVD_fan]

Waluigi

Up-B = Puts on a baseball glove and jumps up to grab a baseball that comes out of nowhere
Side-B = Tennis Racket
B = Liar Ball (Throws two balls, one of them does damage)
Down-B = Moves back and forth and stomps down repeatedly, grounding anyone he hits

Final Smash = Positive Zone - Instead of making other enemies weak, when Waluigi is in the bubble, he gets a bunch of random power-up effects

Done, done, and done

 

[Big-Cat]

Snake is a character too. I know, I missed that when I first played Brawl. :3

Yeah, but Snake was included because Kojima explicitly requested him in. That's the official story and I'm sticking with it.

Anyway, those two reasons I mentioned are the core reasons. The 3rd party ones are whatever, but I didn't list them because most discussions pertain to Nintendo characters.

So. Kumatora for SSB4? With the PK Ground alone, I see her working like C. Viper, but she'd be difficult to do mixups with if there is only one version of each of her specials.

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder if they'll continue the trend of replacing Bowser's Side B move. It'd be interesting if it was swapped out for this.

I'd like to see that a lot. His Side-B is good now, but I think this will improve him. That said, I don't think there's any correlation.

 

[Katakiri]

How so?, last time I checked Lucario played very similar to Mewtwo as far as moves go, look at the Shadow Ball for example.

Also Pokemon Trainer didn't exactly replace anyone, he was a totally unique new character which Melee never had the likes to see.

I agree about Zoroark, if any pokemon gets the boot, I'd say Lucario is the definite candidate

It's not the character itself, it's the character slot. Mewtwo got replaced because they thought of a better 1st Gen character to use which was PT. Pichu got replaced because Gold & Silver wasn't the latest Pokemon game anymore when Brawl came out, 4th Gen was so they used a 4th Gen Pokemon which was Lucario.

So yeah. Lucario is guaranteed to go. I can't imagine PT would go anywhere just because the concept of the character is so good. (except for forced Pokemon switching >>)

I'd LOVE if Zoroark was like a "Super Kirby" and can completely transform into his opponent, color, tag, and everything except for their Down-B. Just so he could be like the biggest **** in Doubles.


Also, I'm thinking the Wii U controller may just end up being a sort of 5th player that just controls the stage via Pictochat lines to make fall-through platforms and puffs of air to push around characters with a sort of Okami-esque "paint" meter limiting how many platforms or puffs of air the player can make before they have to erase/recharge their paint/air.

 

[majora_787]

That would be an awesome move for Bowser. Oh yes.