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[Pachinkosam]

well what floats your boat like i always say.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I have nothing against Victini, but when I heard about its Victory Star ability, I thought it would work out as a Poke Ball Pokemon, who would briefly power up the one who releases it.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I feel offended. So what if I like Victini? You support zoroark? than I can call you a ZoroAs*****.
Hate it when dumb DERP DERP DERP HERPITY DERPITY DERPS like YOU tease Victini fans.

Lol, I sense butthurt within this post

 

[victinivcreate1]

Lol, I sense butthurt within this post

I am not butthurt, I am peeved off.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I am not butthurt, I am peeved off.

Well you are going to see users who oppose your supports. Me, I strongly support Zoroark, but I heavily oppose Ghirahim.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I am not butthurt, I am peeved off.

Same difference

Chill your balls lol we're only discussing fictional characters, you act like this is Tupac vs Biggie and ****

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Want to see Geno as one of the newcomers in the unveil trailer.

Imagine seeing Geno and Ridley at the same time.

Who would that leave us to speculate about though? I'd be set whoever they add after that

Sudden flashback to Brawl General Discussion pre-release lol

 

[Metal Overlord]

You know, I actually used to lurk the old Smash 4 thread for a couple of years

But I never considered joining until after this got announced

So what does that make me? Somewhere inbetween a vet and a newcomer?

 

[Aurane]

The people who are for Victini are ****ing weirdos. It's like you look up to it as a god. Either that, or a fetish.

Sorry to burst your furry bubble, but I don't have that kind of fantasy. If you want a character to be in something, in this case Sm4sh, then you really have to focus on that character. That's how you get a character in. BTW, Haven't you ever heard of fandom? Just askin.

I feel offended. So what if I like Victini? You support zoroark? than I can call you a ZoroAs*****.
Hate it when dumb DERP DERP DERP HERPITY DERPITY DERPS like YOU tease Victini fans.

Idk, maybe too harsh? People are going to say something stupid every now and then, and yes, good chance it'll be stupid.

I am not butthurt, I am peeved off.

Lulz, butthurt and Victini. That equals Wings, Captain!

 

[Berserker.]

grabbing at straws

You're not the judge on who is a better candidate or who has better fighting potential or who is more unique. That's purely based on your opinion. You can say that Geno is a better and more worthy (Like that both matters) candidate.

Plus, a moveset isn't grabbing at straws if the moves have some sort reference. MEH. I'll just post it here: http://www.smashboards.com/news/blogs/194632/4533/the-origin-of-movesets

Basically, every moveset is grabbing at the straws. Since when can we predict the movesets anyway. It's more of a part of a wish list. All characters can be and have the potential to be unique. Jr. having only a paintbrush won't stop him. His moveset can be based on it purely. A great example would be the Ice Climbers. The only thing the Ice Climbers can do is whack with the hammer and..... Look at their standard attacks.... Geno can actually be generic if Sakurai thinks of making his Geno beam similar to ROB's laser beam. HOLD IT THERE. Before you say "Not happening", just go take a look at Ganondorf. I'm not saying Geno is gonna be generic though.

The reason why I'm actually replying to your post regarding Geno being more interesting JUST RIGHT NOW (Since I could have done it before) is because you keep saying the same thing again and again when it comes to an anti - Geno topic. It's just that you're outright wrong. Toad and Jr. can be as unique, less unique or even more unique than Geno depending on random factors I do not know as of now. Instead of using some statement like this, just use something that's a little bit more objective and something that helps Geno actually other than calling him "Worthy", "Unique" or "Deserving" because no one will give a **** to a post like that......... Except for the gameplay nuts (Like me but I usually look at the potential of all characters).

One more thing though, I agree with you regarding Waluigi. It's just that he's severely outclassed.

Popularity: Toad > Waluigi
Importance: Jr > Waluigi
Spin offs: Paper Mario > Geno (SORRY SHORTS) > Waluigi

ANYWAY.....

it just doesn't seem like a logical choice

I'm only gonna reply to this line of the post

His time hasn't ran out yet. Okay.... Maybe his fanbase is um..... a bit dead... Doesn't matter though. Just wait until the SSB 4 hype. As of now...... ANYWAY where was I....?

You can't just drop him yet. Eh. Basically:

Posion to SFxT = Geno to SSB 4

That is all. He may not seem logical but despite that, Sakurai has heard of him and that's what matters. Pretty good achievement right? Geno still has a chance or a "glimmer of light".

 

[victinivcreate1]

Personnaly, I think that Zoroark's Night Daze is an awesome move but I don't want Zoroark to get in the way of Mewtwo/Deoxys/Lucario. With Victini, the 3's chances increase. Also Lucario might not come back due to being in an TV show beforea game. Same case with Zoroark. So his chances decrease. His main strength are his stupid body arguement an the Japanese. The amereicans see Victini as dumb mew with V in head or a pokemon that can stop the potential body pokemon and stop cutting in general.

 

[Berserker.]

Sudden flashback to Brawl General Discussion pre-release lol

I'm lucky I wasn't expecting Ridley or Geno that time. LOL. I wasn't a huge Ridley fan that time until........ Other M when I fought him.

*Readies shield*

Geno pretty much had his chances, but from what I've heard, his popularity has been slowing diminishing. Add the fact that he also has competition against Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, and you can pretty much tell that he's in a deep hole.

Still not discarding him though






*Lurks the UMvC 3 thread*

 

[augustoflores]

just saw pokemon the movie black......... they treated victini the same way mew/celebi/jirachi/manaphy were treated... ugh... well... at least i know where the pokemon company stands for victinis inclusion.

frankly, i was expecting more combat out of him... overall, the movie was a big disappointment.
back on the zoroark bandwagon.

The amereicans see Victini as dumb mew with V in head

lol, pokemon company does as well, according to me.

 

[victinivcreate1]

I think that geno still has a chance but they are at between 1-15%.

 

[Deleted member]

Both MechaWave and victinivcreate1 need to not let things get so personal to them. I understand you may not like Zoroark or Victini but chewing off at other people is not the best way to deal with it.

 

[Aurane]

Personnaly, I think that Zoroark's Night Daze is an awesome move but I don't want Zoroark to get in the way of Mewtwo/Deoxys/Lucario. With Victini, the 3's chances increase. Also Lucario might not come back due to being in an TV show beforea game. Same case with Zoroark. So his chances decrease. His main strength are his stupid body arguement an the Japanese. The amereicans see Victini as dumb mew with V in head or a pokemon that can stop the potential body pokemon and stop cutting in general.

Exactly. The real factor right now impacting Victini's odds is the success of these two movies that were just released. Perhaps the reintroductory of a Mewtwo inspiration-movie may bring Pokemon Purists into voting for him, too. BTW a PokePurist is a person who sticks only to the 1st gen (I believe.).

@MechaWave and V-Create:
Calm down, guys. We don't need Night dazing and Searing shots being thrown around

 

[victinivcreate1]

(Scoffs) Ha ha asage94. But Ok. My problem with victini is that pokemon is trying to advertise two pokemons (zoro and tini). And im afraid that Zoro might win.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Asage, I agree with you, but I think it's just better to ignore Mecha, he's been a derp for a little while now

Hey, someone had to say it

 

[Deleted member]

Anyway, dropping Pokemon discussion now, this is why I didn't get into it further last night.

Okay, let's talk about Yoshi. Who wants to see Yoshi be able to aim with his egg a la Yoshi Story?

 

[Berserker.]

*Goes back here*

TAC to objection? *Writes that down*

Anyway, where were we? Oh right..... Honestly, I prefer Victini over Zoroark because ERP..... Has something to do with the size of Victini. Lol

 

[Aurane]

(Scoffs) Ha ha asage94. But Ok. My problem with victini is that pokemon is trying to advertise two pokemons (zoro and tini). And im afraid that Zoro might win.

This is very true. But remember, Victini is favored by the board manager of Pokemon, so that's a huge boost. I read that from SSBF's essay on Victini.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Still not discarding him though

Well I didn't say that he's forgotten. It's just that Geno is dealing with stronger competition.

I'm not saying this like I oppose Geno, since I'm pretty much in a neutral state with him.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh and berserker01, I'm not predicting 39 slots, I just am trying to keep my expectation low. I consider a 45-49 slot situation much more likely.

 

[victinivcreate1]

Read it too. Great essay's SSBfan. You should write letter toi Sakurai about getting Victini in SSb4. I am but not for Victini, for Mewtwo, Ridley and Deoxys.

My expectations are 40-45 slots (trasformation excluded).

 

[augustoflores]

how do you include transformations to slots? slots are the squares with character icons. you mean to say you expect x amount of characters. transformation included.

 

[Berserker.]

Well I didn't say that he's forgotten. It's just that Geno is dealing with stronger competition.

I'm not saying this like I oppose Geno, since I'm pretty much in a neutral state with him.

I never said you did but if I sounded like I did then my bad.

However, I do agree that he needs to deal with the Dragon Quest characters and the FF characters which is not gonna be easy.

The answer lies in Twitter and hoping for an answer

 

[Metal Overlord]

@SSBF- Regarding Yoshi discussion, I want either Yoshi's Island 64 or Yoshi's Story back

And I expect a 55-character slot including DLC, so about 50-52 on-disc

 

[Aurane]

Anyway, where were we? Oh right..... Honestly, I prefer Victini over Zoroark because ERP..... Has something to do with the size of Victini. Lol

You still like Ridley, right?

Oh and berserker01, I'm not predicting 39 slots, I just am trying to keep my expectation low. I consider a 45-49 slot situation much more likely.

Well, as this being the 4th installment of SSB, I'm expecting them to give it all they got to make this a good game. I expect this range:
42-49 The reason is because Sakurai may make some nostaligic appearences, as it's been popular recently.

 

[Diddy Kong]

It wasn't, aaaannnnd he doesn't garuntee a win. No character does. I whoop Meta Knights all the time as computers. I'm sure you could win as GANONDORF against three Meta Knights. If you were GOOD ENOUGH.

I've beaten two Meta Knights as Ganon once, but three in one team without Friendly Fire and without Final Smashes is for me impossible.

 

[Berserker.]

You still like Ridley, right?

Yeah for different reasons

Oh and berserker01, I'm not predicting 39 slots, I just am trying to keep my expectation low. I consider a 45-49 slot situation much more likely.

Expecting low isn't always the way to go

 

[victinivcreate1]

Yoshi should be able to aim his eggs. Also Metakinght for BOTTOM TIER!!!!!

When is Sakurai starting SSB4 on the game physics (wavedashing, DACUS)

 

[Berserker.]

Yoshi should be able to aim his eggs. Also Metakinght for BOTTOM TIER!!!!!

When is Sakurai starting SSB4 on the game physics (wavedashing, DACUS)

Dear god, please make this not another smash bros. melee or brawl or even 64. Oh and no wave dashing and L cancelling please. I just want an all new game with new physics that satisfy the casuals and competitives as to what Sakurai said....

And some revamps

 

[augustoflores]

ask sakurai... we don't work for him.

 

[Aurane]

@SSBF- Regarding Yoshi discussion, I want either Yoshi's Island 64 or Yoshi's Story back

I've mentioned at one time, Yoshi needs a Pikmin-sort of thing. It logically makes sense because the eggs follow him anyways. (Gotta love the gaming world)

Read it too. Great essay's SSBfan. You should write letter toi Sakurai about getting Victini in SSb4. I am but not for Victini, for Mewtwo, Ridley and Deoxys.

My expectations are 40-45 slots (trasformation excluded).

You see, I too am against Ridley, but only because Sakurai turned him down as is...

Spoiler

And he's just so darn big, Berserker!

how do you include transformations to slots? slots are the squares with character icons. you mean to say you expect x amount of characters. transformation included.

True, but they count as their own character.

I've beaten two Meta Knights as Ganon once, but three in one team without Friendly Fire and without Final Smashes is for me impossible.

I'd never consider using Ganon against MK. But I find that Wolf's (B)v has worked well on stopping the ****ing loop.

If I knew Japanese, I'd speak to Sakurai about my Victini blog (Once it was complete). BTW SSBF, did you watch those movies, yet?

 

[Deleted member]

@victinivcreate1: Sorry, but it's not happening. Not only do I know no Japanese, I also don't know the address of where Sakurai work and I'm not learning a language just for a game and I'm not going to bother other people to do it.

@Metal Overlord: I loved the Yoshi's Island stage for the Nintendo 64 and especially the music. Stages from all three games should return (although I'm only expecting it from Brawl).

@asage94: No and I don't know when I'll be able to do it.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Expecting low isn't always the way to go

In Brawl, I expected a lot more, but got a rude awakening in the end. My Smash 4 roster input is much less ridiculous, as a result.

 

[Berserker.]

ask sakurai... we don't work for him.

*Derp mode*

Can't tell who you're talking to but if it's me...... I WISH. LOL. The best thing I can do is hope. Even going in front of nintendo HQ and saying "Geno for Smash" isn't gonna be heard out by Sakurai and nintendo. Yes. Someone actually did this, Fatman, and I admire him for such a courageous act.

 

[Aurane]

@asage94: No and I don't know when I'll be able to do it.

Buy/rent the movie because they cut scenes on the TV. Gawd, it p!ssed me off that they did that JUST to make room for the Regular Show. ******** level: 85, and gaining.

 

[victinivcreate1]

does anybody know any good online translators? An I keep hering xIlbisX is a japanese translatro> Should I got to him?

 

[augustoflores]

movie black sucked bawls... don't know bout white since am waiting for CN broadcast

@toad... was talking to Vcreate but you can believe whatever you want. (lol, i actually talked/referred to him 3 times in a row)