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[PsychoIncarnate]

Those left could just be REALLY loud

Remember, the vocal minority has a psychological effect on the ignorant.

The louder you are, the more people will believe what you are saying is true

LOL

Edit: I'm NOT saying they won't be back, just making a little joke

 

[Diddy Kong]

If you look closely at Castle Seige you'll see that the first part seems like Marth's part (pre Brawl someone could tell by the flags- thus saying it confirmed Marth), the second looks like Ike's (again the flag, it looks a lot like PoR's enemy nation Daein's) and the last must be Roy's (probably the cave where you find Durandal) so yes... It seems like Roy was planned.

Though, could not making it in Brawl ruin Roy's chances... I mean, FE6 is still JA exclusive, and rather old now. Then again, like Pokemon why not try to rep all FE 'generations'? Marth - NES, SNES, DS Roy - GBA Ike - GC & Wii Chrome - 3DS (exclusive to that version) and unknown probable FE Wii U Lord - Wii U (Wii U exclusive).

 

[Shorts]

However, this first requires a revival of the Geno fan base. If it doesn't happen, he's doomed, but the opposite could very well happen.

Except for it doesn't. If he was already going to be added, that means he was pretty much a done deal. I THINK IF it was Geno, and IF he wanted to use him again, he would be in the reveal trailer, like Snake.

ALSO, I definitely don't doubt the Geno lovers will be back. They will always be around. There is still a lot of people who like him. Not just Psycho.


SmasChu, your avi is so scary. So. Scary.

 

[SmashChu]

That reminds me. Smashboards should REALLY take a page from SRK and keep all character discussion to strictly confirmed characters. All the unconfirmed stuff should go into a speculation thread.

I don't think you understand how that wont work. Do you actually remember how fast the individual character threads moved. And there were at least 20-30 active ones.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I don't think you understand how that wont work. Do you actually remember how fast the individual character threads moved. And there were at least 20-30 active ones.

OMG, someone else that knows of NMC.

I used to enjoy their character battles, back in the day

 

[Aurane]

I severely doubt that Sakurai tried to get rights to Banjo-Kazooie. The only three REALLY popular third-party requests during Brawl were Sonic, Mega Man, and Geno and only the first one made the cut. It can't be Mega Man, so if the rumor is true that Sakurai did not get a character in due to legal issues, it could very well be Geno and I feel as Sakurai tried to get the third third-party character in after Sonic. If this is true, then perhaps there's a glimmer of hope for Geno and if he reaches near the heights of the pre-Brawl days, we could very well see Sakurai try again and if there is enough time, perhaps it'll go through.

However, this first requires a revival of the Geno fan base. Which given that the Geno supporters have practically given up, is a near impossible process.

You see, the reason why I don't like the idea of Geno on Sm4sh is because of what you just typed, SSBF. Once Brawl came out, Geno supporters dropped in packs of hungry wolves (No joke, one of those little buggers bit me one time O_O). Once Sm4sh was announced, it was far too late. New video games were made, and Geno was *Partcially* forgotten due to the excitement of the new games. I think Geno's fanbase was hit more by the faulty rumor and new game appearences. Nostaligic appearences may of hurt even more. So it comes to reason that if Geno did make it, not many people will know who he is. Some may, but new gamers (It'll be 2013/14 when SSB4 is released *Guesstimate*, and their will be many new gamers.) won't know much about them. Note, this is a rated T game (Possibly), so they'll focus on what the kids know and like, as well. Not saying we, the older, won't. But not as much. This is also another weakness of Pokemon, as well.

To put it in short, new game releases and new gamers hurt certain fan bases, with Geno's being one of them. Not many will literally forget him, but they may have a new favorite, and won't pay much attention to Geno anymore. Once again, this is a weakness to the Pokemon series. I fear that if a 6th generation OR Genesect appears, then Victini could be crushed. Therefore, I will destroy the Pokemon Genesect and then brainwash Sakurai into making Victini a newcomer.

...Did I say that right? Lol

 

[SmashChu]

OMG, someone else that knows of NMC.

I used to enjoy their character battles, back in the day

What's NMC. I'm sure I know what it is, just not the abbreviation.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

What's NMC. I'm sure I know what it is, just not the abbreviation.

Neglected Mario Characters

...At least you have a link in your sig

 

[Shorts]

I'm reading some stuff from the old thread, and I have to say, I think I'm in love. Pieman and TheThirdKoopa are such manly men of reason and logic. They're quite the romancers.

This thread... really does fail so hard. I wish we could DISCUSS like them.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I probably could have just edited this into my last post since it was related anyway

 

[Aurane]

I probably could have just edited this into my last post since it was related anyway

It doesn't talk much, and it's a mix of Rambo and Tickle-me Elmo?

 

[Hoots]

I'm reading some stuff from the old thread, and I have to say, I think I'm in love. Pieman and TheThirdKoopa are such manly men of reason and logic. They're quite the romancers.

This thread... really does fail so hard. I wish we could DISCUSS like them.

I'm slightly uncomfortable now... Anyways, at least I TRY!

Also, when did he say that a character had to be cut due to licensing issues?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It doesn't talk much, and it's a mix of Rambo and Tickle-me Elmo?

I'm not the one who wrote it.

The creator isn't exactly a poet either

 

[Aurane]

I'm not the one who wrote it.

The creator isn't exactly a poet either

So I can see.

 

[Shorts]

I'm slightly uncomfortable now... Anyways, at least I TRY!

Also, when did he say that a character had to be cut due to licensing issues?

Don't worry, I don't dig facial hair.

UHM *looks for the SOURCE*

Sakurai also mentioned that even among Nintendo characters, there were some they couldn't consider due to intellectual property rights issues.

I'll look for a second TRANSLATION to make sure CUT or words synonymous weren't used LIKE I THOUGHT they were.

He does ALLUDE to copyright issues though, this is for sure.

I would also like to POINT OUT, Sakurai definitely does SEE that adding too many third party characters CAN ALIENATE FANS:

Adding characters from other series and from other worlds, really, outside the Nintendo universe, is an incredibly difficult process. In some ways it's more difficult from just building a game from the ground up because you're really trying to make everything match and in some ways that creates limitations. I hope that people can understand that's the reason we can't include more characters from outside the Nintendo universe. And, of course, I believe that when you increase the number of worlds, you're also increasing the number of people who could potentially enjoy that videogame and the series that you're putting in there. But there are also problems because having these non-traditional characters in there -- even with just Snake and Sonic -- has resulted in a number of people who do dissent in seeing these characters put into the Smash series. It's not a simple matter of adding as many worlds and characters from other games as possible -- you can't be careless in doing that sort of thing, you have to be careful. Internally and externally, there have been people who have raised objections to it.

Also, for the CUT LOONS:

I'm in love with all of my characters and I couldn't possibly choose one. And I personally believe that no matter which character you choose, there is the possibility that you can win your matches. And there is no character that will guarantee that you will win

 

[Aurane]

Don't worry, I don't dig facial hair.

UHM *looks for the SOURCE*



I'll look for a second TRANSLATION to make sure CUT or words synonymous weren't used LIKE I THOUGHT they were.

He does ALLUDE to copyright issues though, this is for sure.

Geno, I assume?

Wow... it's 2:03... I should get some sleep... But I can't -_- Irritating...

 

[Oasis_S]

"But I don't love Mewtwo and Roy." -- Sakurai.

 

[Shorts]

"But I don't love Mewtwo and Roy." -- Sakurai.

He doesn't even know who Pichu is.

To start, Sakurai talked about the process of adding the characters to Brawl. He started out big by choosing all of the characters at the beginning (with the exception of Sonic), but had to cut some of them out due to time constraints.

I just don't know WHO TO TRUST ANYMORE.

OKAY, so basically what we KIND OF KNOW is at one point, a character was considered (Probably Geno, who he counts as a FIRST PARTY) but liscensing got in the way. That sounds like the OPPOSITE of GOOD NEWS. It sounds like THE DEATH OF GENO D:

The reason I think he counts Geno as a first party (Mario character) is because when discussing if any other third parties approached him, he basically said none. Nothing like, "Well, we talked with someone about liscensing issues for their character".

So, Geno seems to have been considered, persued.... and given up on?

 

[Aurane]

So, Geno seems to have been considered, persued.... and given up on?

Eh, that's about right. Welcome to the future.

 

[Shorts]

Eh, that's about right. Welcome to the future.

I like how you worded this as if you knew all this information beforehand, and simply wanted everyone to have a personal journy to discover it themselves. How enlightened you are.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

and yet, we don't even know who this character is...

Sukapon was given up on because he was mentioned by name. No point in giving up on someone that may or may not fit a description and never mentioned by name

 

[Aurane]

I like how you worded this as if you knew all this information beforehand, and simply wanted everyone to have a personal journy to discover it themselves. How enlightened you are.

Can't let you assume that, Shortie Cakes Lol, jkin

 

[Deleted member]

I'm in love with all of my characters and I couldn't possibly choose one. And I personally believe that no matter which character you choose, there is the possibility that you can win your matches. And there is no character that will guarantee that you will win

Would love to see the source. I have been of the opinion that Sakurai dislikes having to cut and this proves it.

 

[Shorts]

Would love to see the source. I have been of the opinion that Sakurai dislikes having to cut and this proves it.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/853/853748p1.html

Last question, page 2.


@Psycho, This is true, and things may change, and Sakurai may want to LOOK INTO THAT CHARACTER AGAIN. I mean, we can't INFER TOO MUCH from what he said, because he didn't say much. All I CAN SAY IS, who else would it be? I suppose it could have been someone like Banjo, or another third party. It just is EASY to fit Geno into the breif description. He just doesn't mention it being a third party, and Geno WAS listed under "Mario" not "Other" in the Melee poll.

ITS A STRETCH, but if I had to bet on someone, I would bet it being Geno. But you are right.

 

[Oasis_S]

NO. NO. You do NOT call him THAT. It's SHORT SHORTS!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

And there is no character that will guarantee that you will win

...Meta Knight. Unless this was said before Brawl.

 

[Shorts]

...Meta Knight. Unless this was said before Brawl.

It wasn't, aaaannnnd he doesn't garuntee a win. No character does. I whoop Meta Knights all the time as computers. I'm sure you could win as GANONDORF against three Meta Knights. If you were GOOD ENOUGH.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

...Meta Knight. Unless this was said before Brawl.

He's not guaranteed if the opponent chooses Meta Knight as well...

 

[Aurane]

It wasn't, aaaannnnd he doesn't garuntee a win. No character does. I whoop Meta Knights all the time as computers. I'm sure you could win as GANONDORF against three Meta Knights. If you were GOOD ENOUGH.

I agree. No character is the best. It's how good the player is.

He's not guaranteed if the opponent chooses Meta Knight as well...

MK Dittos are so annoying... Can't be as worse as Troll Falcons on Wi-Fi...












...Unless you're one of them

 

[Berserker.]

Any big news?

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@Diddy Kong: That's actually a lot of characters. I really doubt that we'll get more than 49 character slots for this game. 45-49 seems much more realistic.

...........NAH

45 characters (Not including transformations) + 1 random select slot = ???? Columns

This. Strangely enough, I used to expect 50 character slots. Now I only expect 39 (although I hope for 45-49).

............

Erp. Terrible slot prediction. It's... TOO FAR OUT.

I thought it was Smash Wuss but whatever. Oops that was rude of me oh well

Has anyone made any Saki movesets yet?

B - Blaster pewpewpewpew
Side B - Auto charge explosion boom shot
Down B - Target lock
Up B - Jet pack

Standards - Weak, low priority saber attacks

Weight

Need to get heavier because I'm scrawny as ****. I eat a lot but I'm still..... UGH. Science these days

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Anyway....

Anyone think Mega Man has no chance now?

Anyone think Capcom is trolling the Mega Man fans (IDC though)?

Who's the most likely 3rd party as of now? Like.... Likeliest of the unlikely.

Anyone know a character with the potential to do combos from mid/long range asides from Ridley?

 

[victinivcreate1]

I saw victini's movie. That V-Create (in my account name) was wicked!!. I also loved the fusion flare it used to try and break the pillars of protection.

 

[Aurane]

I saw victini's movie. That V-Create (in my account name) was wicked!!. I also loved the fusion flare it used to try and break the pillars of protection.

The V-Create was awesome, indeed! However, the move he used before that was Searing Shot, not Fusion Flare.

 

[victinivcreate1]

The V-Create was awesome, indeed! However, the move he used before that was Searing Shot, not Fusion Flare.

Oh, that was searing shot?

 

[Aurane]

Oh, that was searing shot?

Yup, because he doesn't know fusion moves in the movie.

My friend wants me to make this. I accepted, because I alrdy have some violet victini sprites and etc, so I think I can make a good one... O~O

 

[MechaWave]

The people who are for Victini are ****ing weirdos. It's like you look up to it as a god. Either that, or a fetish.

 

[Berserker.]

Are you referring to just asage and vcreate or pretty much all Victini fans?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Want to see Geno as one of the newcomers in the unveil trailer.

Imagine seeing Geno and Ridley at the same time.

Who would that leave us to speculate about though? I'd be set whoever they add after that

Geno pretty much had his chances, but from what I've heard, his popularity has been slowing diminishing. Add the fact that he also has competition against Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, and you can pretty much tell that he's in a deep hole.

 

[victinivcreate1]

The people who are for Victini are ****ing weirdos. It's like you look up to it as a god. Either that, or a fetish.

I feel offended. So what if I like Victini? You support zoroark? than I can call you a ZoroAs*****.
Hate it when dumb DERP DERP DERP HERPITY DERPITY DERPS like YOU tease Victini fans.

 

[Pachinkosam]

The people who are for Victini are ****ing weirdos. It's like you look up to it as a god. Either that, or a fetish.

(bravo)(bravo)
but i dont hate victini.
But wes a weird charater
VERY WELL THEN COME MY CHILD.

 

[victinivcreate1]

(bravo)(bravo)
but i dont hate victini.
But wes a weird charater
VERY WELL THEN COME MY CHILD.

At least you don't hate Victini, but he's not a weirdo like Pedobear.

Plus sincxe I like victini, and his trait is Victory Star, I... Will... Take YOU DOWN!!!