New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Oasis_S]

I'm sure picking Zoroark on the character select screen would be a pretty big RED FLAG for your friends that you may have picked Zoroark.

 

[yani_]

True. Well if not who you're playing against then perhaps another random character from the roster? That'd add an element of surprise, for both players.

Yeah that could work, but if you transform into a character you aren't good with , you'd be screwed out of your first life

 

[Aurane]

@Oasis on Lucario
I didn't expect him, at first. My eyes were drawn to Deoxys because of the fight VS Rayquaza. Once I watched Lucario and TMOM, I knew he was getting in. I guess it boils down to what SSBF said: What you think of the character.

I don't think Victini being *Supportive* could be a drawback because it can be another technique in-game, like Zelda (Shape Shift) and Lucario (DMG Increase). A few others hold special traits as well. Perhaps this may make me remix my Victory Star trait on Victini, which was a copy of Lucario.

Love America

 

[Oasis_S]

Okay, but to everyone else he was pretty DURN obvious.

Did you make a Talisman reference earlier?

 

[Aurane]

Okay, but to everyone else he was pretty DURN obvious.

Did you make a Talisman reference earlier?

Oh, then I better say the first time I watched it was when it was released in Japan. Because as soon as it came out (When he was introduced), I agreed for him to be on the next SSB. Funny thing is I didn't even know what Brawl was then (I think. That was years ago @_@).

No, I didn't make any references to nething.

Alright, well, good night everyone. Hope the future holds another rhyme for our dreams (I'll let you guys try to figure out what I just said XD).

 

[Conviction]

Abs. I got the shape, and the first two, but that's it.


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Ahhh thanks, okay. I'm glad you mean abs then. LOL

I was also led to believe that King Dedede was an unlockable character in Melee.

I was led to believe sonic was in Melee. All I had to do was beat Jigglypuff's classic mode on the hardest setting with one life and using no continues. Needless to say I spent weeks trying and when I succeded, I WAS PISSED AS HELL BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SAWNIIIKU -_________-

 

[Shorts]

THE ONLY rumor that ever got me was the "You unlock someone by shooting all the credits" in Melee. My older sister during 64, and eventually her boyfriend during Melee made it VERY CLEAR, there were no more characters.

The only Brawl rumor I can see still holding some weight is GENO partially programmed/unlockable. Which I DO BELIEVE he could have been the third character who wasn't added in time.

 

[Conviction]

Just ask any hacker on this forum if it's true.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Want to see Geno as one of the newcomers in the unveil trailer.

Imagine seeing Geno and Ridley at the same time.

Who would that leave us to speculate about though? I'd be set whoever they add after that

 

[Shorts]

Just ask any hacker on this forum if it's true.

I KNOW he wasn't added to the game. But THERE WAS a third party not added because of time/legal (forget which) constraints. I think it was LEGAL constraints that weren't resolved IN TIME. Yes. Thats what it was.

So, HACKERS DON'T KNOW **** about this. Unless they used the internet.

 

[Conviction]

The only Brawl rumor I can see still holding some weight is GENO partially programmed/unlockable. Which I DO BELIEVE he could have been the third character who wasn't added in time.

I KNOW he wasn't added to the game.

So, HACKERS DON'T KNOW **** about this. Unless they used the internet.

but but you said

GENO partially programmed/unlockable.

so it makes sense to say

Just ask any hacker on this forum if it's true.

 

[Big-Cat]

Who would that leave us to speculate about though? I'd be set whoever they add after that

What to do with our time instead of speculating.

 

[yani_]

I believe it was Geno too cus his situation probably makes it more of a pain to get his rights.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

What to do with our time instead of speculating.

Go to the inevitable ashley thread and spam how they are pedo's?

 

[Shorts]

I meant "still holds weight" as in, people still BELIEVE it. Not that it is actually true. I was talking about how pretty much it's the only MAJOR rumor that Brawl has. Melee has Sonic, Tails, and Toad. 64 has even more than that.

Now most rumors are "I hear x character almost made it in" instead of "ZOMG, do this crazy thing and you'll get a secret character!" Kind of sad.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

And behold, the warrior of the heavens came to the mushroom kingdom and took the most humblest of forms; that of a simple (By simple I mean more advanced than any toy I've ever seen, it had guns and a cannon strong enough to knock out mario while it was still small) wooden doll.

He, our savior, vanquished the evil perverted of creations - the polluter of worlds: Smithy. With his last words, he promised he would return when the world needed him.

'Till this day, we await the return of our savior so our eternal souls may rise to the star road.

Geno be praised

 

[SmashKing201]

I would hate to see Geno in Smash since there are more important characters to Nintendo.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I would hate to see Geno in Smash since there are more important characters to Nintendo.

You're mom has more important characters

 

[Shorts]

Geno would hate to see you be playable as well. That BANJO rumor is pretty interesting. Ill go check it out.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I'd love Geno in Smash. Albeit, as long as he doesn't take a Third Party slot. Since he's a Square-Enix character, and not a Nintendo one.

 

[Claire Diviner]

Go to the inevitable ashley thread and spam how they are pedo's?

Which Ashley?

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[SmashKing201]

You're mom has more important characters

Nice, I receive an insult for an opinion. >_<

I understand he has fighting potentials and he has his fanbase, but I just don't get the appeal of this character over so many

 

[yani_]

And behold, the warrior of the heavens came to the mushroom kingdom and took the most humblest of forms; that of a simple (By simple I mean more advanced than any toy I've ever seen, it had guns and a cannon strong enough to knock out mario while it was still small) wooden doll.

He, our savior, vanquished the evil perverted of creations - the polluter of worlds: Smithy. With his last words, he promised he would return when the world needed him.

'Till this day, we await the return of our savior so our eternal souls may rise to the star road.

Geno be praised

This is... Beautiful :')

@Shortie which Banjo rumor?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Which Ashley?

Spoiler

Spoiler

I have no idea who option 1 is.

It was actually a joke based on what we actually did do during the days of Brawl's development.

Good times

 

[Claire Diviner]

I have no idea who option 1 is.

It was actually a joke based on what we actually did do during the days of Brawl's development.

Good times

Ahhh, pity I wasn't around during that time, but there's always Smash 4.

Oh, and the first Ashley is Ashley Robbins from Trace Memory ("Another Code" in Japan). It's a game by Nintendo for the DS. She's actually a trophy in Brawl.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Nice, I receive an insult for an opinion. >_<

I understand he has fighting potentials and he has his fanbase, but I just don't get the appeal of this character over so many

My problem is that you called him a Nintendo character when he's not one. He's a Square-Enix character and they have complete control over him. He's pure Third Party. I don't think he's nearly as appealing as others, but he definitely would be a great choice in general. I'm not comparing him to other characters, though. I've always liked him and Mallow. They were great in Super Mario RPG.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

My problem is that you called him a Nintendo character when he's not one. He's a Square-Enix character and they have complete control over him. He's pure Third Party. I don't think he's nearly as appealing as others, but he definitely would be a great choice in general. I'm not comparing him to other characters, though. I've always liked him and Mallow. They were great in Super Mario RPG.

He's a Mario character first, in my eyes. And always will be, regardless of legal BS

 

[Claire Diviner]

He's a Mario character first, in my eyes. And always will be, regardless of legal BS

Well, technically speaking, he is a Mario character... just not owned by Nintendo.

 

[Big-Cat]

Go to the inevitable ashley thread and spam how they are pedo's?

That reminds me. Smashboards should REALLY take a page from SRK and keep all character discussion to strictly confirmed characters. All the unconfirmed stuff should go into a speculation thread.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

He's a Mario character first, in my eyes. And always will be, regardless of legal BS

Of course he's a Mario character, but he's not a Nintendo one. Likewise, that legal BS is why he didn't appear in Brawl.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That reminds me. Smashboards should REALLY take a page from SRK and keep all character discussion to strictly confirmed characters. All the unconfirmed stuff should go into a speculation thread.

I think we'll need a Geno and Ridley thread, or else the forum is going to have spam like crazy in unrelated threads

 

[SmashKing201]

My problem is that you called him a Nintendo character when he's not one. He's a Square-Enix character and they have complete control over him. He's pure Third Party. I don't think he's nearly as appealing as others, but he definitely would be a great choice in general. I'm not comparing him to other characters, though. I've always liked him and Mallow. They were great in Super Mario RPG.

I wasn't referring Geno as a Nintendo character. I meant to state that there are Nintendo characters that should get in before him, even though he is 3rd Party. Sorry for the error.

Most of the times, I see people suggest him over Toad & Bowser Jr for a new Mario rep. In my opinion it just doesn't seem like a logical choice since he has only appeared in 2 games while the other 2 have appeared in numerous games, especially Toad.

He seems overrated as a Smash candidate, but that is just my opinion though.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Basically, he's our version of Poison being added to SFXT

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I wasn't referring Geno as a Nintendo character. I meant to state that there are Nintendo characters that should get in before him, even though he is 3rd Party. Sorry for the error.

Okay.

Most of the times, I see people suggest him over Toad & Bowser Jr for a new Mario rep. In my opinion it just doesn't seem like a logical choice since he has only appeared in 2 games while the other 2 have appeared in numerous games, especially Toad.

To be fair, they weren't playable in an rpg, and has less characterization. I can understand why they hype him.

He seems overrated as a Smash candidate, but that is just my opinion though.

Fair enough. Personally, I don't think there are enough supporters. Would help get him in already.

 

[Hoots]

I wasn't referring Geno as a Nintendo character. I meant to state that there are Nintendo characters that should get in before him, even though he is 3rd Party. Sorry for the error.

Most of the times, I see people suggest him over Toad & Bowser Jr for a new Mario rep. In my opinion it just doesn't seem like a logical choice since he has only appeared in 2 games while the other 2 have appeared in numerous games, especially Toad.

He seems overrated as a Smash candidate, but that is just my opinion though.

Except Geno is an incredibly unique and interesting character. Toad may be much MUCH more recognizable, but every single moveset I've seen for him is REALLY grabbing at straws. Bowser Jr. may be more "important" than Geno, but once again, he really was only unique when he had his paintbrush. Geno was the face of one of the most popular SNES games. An entire generations of Nintendo fans love him and he would be incredibly unique AND cool. Number of games don't mean **** as far as I'm concerned. Waluigi has been in WAY more games. Should we include him also? (Rhetorical question. The correct answer is no.)

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Sorry if I'm taking this defending of Geno arguments seriously.

I'm a veteran of this kind of thing. I've already said everything that needs to be said thousands of times and lead Geno supporters to other sites and threads in his defense.

I've caused debates which erupted into flame wars so out of control all the mods could do to control it is ban EVERYONE involved.

It's been years, and I just don't take internet arguments as serious anymore. It won't get anything done either way

 

[Shorts]

I want to just play a little game. But before I do that, let me CLEAR THINGS UP. Sakurai said "one or two" characters were cut due to "legal issues". Nothing about third parties, although I think it's obvious they had weird stringy ties because they WERE half/full third party.

Anyways, let's talk about the difference between FILLER and NON FILLER characters from the forbidden seven. We can pretty much assume pra mai is nothing. *tosses* So don't bring them up. Let's move on to the CLEARLY filler characters, which are TOON ZELDA AND TOON SHEIKNOTTETRA. Clone material added to beef the roster if need be. Doc, ONE MIGHT SAY was a filler, but you can't be for sure because we have no clue if he was decloned or not. So he's a MAYBE filler. What are we left with? Roy (A maybe filler but less likely IMO), Dixie (NOT filler) and MEWTWO (NOT FILLER). Like Lucas, wouldn't you say Sakurai's unfinished NOT FILLER characters would try to be added the next installment?

So, Mewtwo, Dixie, and PROBABLY Roy are three very real choices. NOW, let's look at that mystery character shall we? LET US PRETEND, it 100% WAS GENO. Obviously he was not filler. WOULDN'T that make him one of the VERY REAL CHOICES AS WELL?

Yeah, think about that.

OrBanjobutwhatevs.

 

[Oasis_S]

I still wish someone would clear up what "effects" mean in the Brawl data, since the Forbidden 7 are only found in the "effects" folder. Of course, they're listed under the "fighter effects" thing but whatever.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Pfft...

Banjo was only relative on the N64 and he hasn't been in a REAL game in like 10 years +

 

[Deleted member]

I severely doubt that Sakurai tried to get rights to Banjo-Kazooie. The only three REALLY popular third-party requests during Brawl were Sonic, Mega Man, and Geno and only the first one made the cut. It can't be Mega Man, so if the rumor is true that Sakurai did not get a character in due to legal issues, it could very well be Geno and I feel as Sakurai tried to get the third third-party character in after Sonic. If this is true, then perhaps there's a glimmer of hope for Geno and if he reaches near the heights of the pre-Brawl days, we could very well see Sakurai try again and if there is enough time, perhaps it'll go through.

However, this first requires a revival of the Geno fan base. Which given that the Geno supporters have practically given up, is a near impossible process.