New nintendo console (New stuff) Wii U (YEs that's not a joke)

[Vyse]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1161875p1.html

It's Hd and more powerful than ps3/360 and to be announced at e3.

Hates gonna hate. I'm happy.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1161875p1.html



well then! guess I know what I'm saving up for lol

----- credit to Stryks -----

From GameInformer:

new system is capable of running games at HD resolutions
- system may either fall short of or surpass 360/PS3 in graphics, but it will be competitive
- Nintendo is already showing publishers the system
- late 2012 launch
- no word on backwards compatibility
- no word on 'Wii' being in the name
- when Nintendo was approached with this information, they were told that Nintendo won't comment on their E3 plans, but "stay tuned"
"Nintendo is doing this one right. [It's] not a gimmick like the Wii." - anonymous source


source: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/04/14/new-nintendo-console-at-e3.aspx


From IGN:

- console is significantly more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
- Nintendo is looking to recapture the hardcore market
- 1080p resolutions
- Nintendo will release a pre-announcement this month
- full reveal expected at E3
- backwards compatible with current Wii software


source: http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1161875p1.html



Neogaf:

- launch titles from third-party developers are in the works right now
- all-new controller
- controller features a built-in HD screen
- Blu-ray as the main optical drive

"Nintendo's plans sound unreal. Publishers are already planning launch titles and it's all very exciting. The hardware is even more powerful than current HD consoles and backwards compatible with Wii. The controller will be all-new and has a HD screen on it." - inside source


source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427412&page=30



UPDATE:


Now IGN is saying that, according to CVG and some of their sources, not only will the controller have an HD screen, but also the screen has touch capability.


sources: http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/116/1161875p1.html
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/298241/news/wii-2-has-all-new-hd-controller-out-2012-sources/




UPDATE 2:


Thanks to everyone that sent this in, From IGN:

New details have surfaced from yesterday's reports that Nintendo is set to unveil its newest console, codenamed "Project Cafe."

According to our sources, the new Nintendo controller will feature dual analog sticks in addition to standard d-pad and trigger buttons. It'll mirror a Gamecube controller in general function but not in specific form.

French website 01.net has published additional details (via Develop), that say the touch capable screen on the controller is 6 inches in size, but we were unable to confirm the accuracy of the report. Additional details about the console's hardware specs could also not be confirmed.

Players will actually be able to stream game content to the controller screen from the console. It's unclear at this time what type of content it will be, whether it's full games you can take with you on the go, mini-games or applications.

At E3 in June, our sources also said Nintendo will show first and third party titles at the event, but it's unsure if they'll be playable or only in video form.



source: http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1162045p1.html



Update 3



From 01net

- codename is “project cafe”
- similar to the architecture of the 360, but a little more powerful
- easy to develop for
- controller has a standard single, 6-inch touch screen (not HD)
- similar to the Dreamcast VMU with ample storage capacity
- still a huge “surprise” about the platform to be revealed at E3
- custom IBM PowerPC CPU with three cores, a GPU from the ATI R700 family with a shader unit at version 4.1, and at least 512Mb of RAM
- GameCube backwards compatibility as well
- controller has a front-facing camera, D-Pad, two bumpers, two triggers and "possibly more"
- can allegedly be used as a Wii sensor bar
- due out June 2012 in Japan, holiday season elsewhere


source: http://www.01net.com/editorial/5316...2-de-nintendo-aura-une-tablette-pour-manette/


From next-gen.biz

- Ubisoft, Activision and Electronic Arts have had development kits for months
- system retains motion control, with capabilities that are “better than Move”
- Nintendo will unveil the system at E3 in June, if not sooner

source: http://www.next-gen.biz/news/sources-confirm-more-details-on-wii-successor



UPDATE 4:


From IGN:

- New Nintendo controller allows players to stream entire games to the device from the console - like a miniature television.


This came from the twitter from a guy at IGN

also:

The screen size on the controller is also confirmed to be six inches in size.





UPDATE 5

Again, from IGN:

- It'll mirror a Gamecube controller in general function but not in specific form.



Update 6:


Was thinking about the pikmin part yesterday:


- Pikmin 3 moved to Wii successor
- will be shown in video form at E3
- boost in graphical power seen as a benefit for the game
- Nintendo trying to get Rockstar support for Project Cafe

source: http://gameolosophy.com/consoles/wi...-project-cafe-nintendo-talking-with-rockstar/


also here's a mockup image of how IGN thinks the controller will look like:

UPDATE 7:


Nintendo is gonna hold an investors meeting on the 25th, and there will be transcripts from the event, if there's ANY chance of us hearing about the next console this month, this event could be it




UPDATE 8:

Like the previous rumors, take these with a grain of salt, tho it's unclear if they're opinions or if Nintendo Life, a twitter account, knows something we don't:


- All we can say so far is: don’t believe everything you read online. Other than from us, of course. May hear solid details next week…

- (details are) significant enough that we can’t reveal what they are.

- (console will be) a combination of everything you would expect from Nintendo and yet surprising at the same time.


and:

- Nintendo has sold more handheld consoles than anyone. Why have a controller with a screen in? Why not use DS?
- Nintendo is a Japanese company. Why would a secret project have a French name?

These last two sound more like opinions, but you never know

 

[Sieg]

Because Nintendo has to make a new console to keep up with the current generation.

Not sure if to call fake anyway, Wii is such a money ***** for casuals that I'm not sure why the hell Nintendo would even bother making a new console.

EDIT: Then again, they have the "Apple" syndrome right now, with millions or ******* following them blindly, maybe they'll go the way of the iPad 2 and just release a new console so that mass consumerism will make them even more rich.

 

[Robsta]

This new console is going to be for the "gamer" while the wii will be for the family.

 

[Rad]

Who can say what will happen. It could go in so many directions it's impossible to tell. I'm hoping for the best.

 

[Marteh]

It's come to my attention Screw Attack are actually Time Travelers, they totally predicted this but also said the Wii will stay for the casual market...

 

[CAOTIC]

i'm excited for a new nintendo console. if they want to recapture the hardcore it has to have the best everything. i got over the wii years ago and jumped onto 360/PS3

 

[Vyse]

I like my Wii but I have zero time for console gaming. The last console game I played was persona 3. And that took me like 3 years to finish.

I spend a lot of time playing left 4 dead 1-2, but that's it for pc. Smash obviously, but I don't include fighters or competitive games. I own mvc3, but don't have a drive to play it.

I absolutely adore my ds however, since commuting to uni and work these past years have afforded me a lot of free time.

I'd buy more Wii games, but I already have plenty that I've bought and not found time to play.

 

[Richard7]

Finally, just don't be shi*.

 

[CAOTIC]

i'm a bit skeptical of the new console being technologically superior to 360/PS3 myself. i don't think there's ever been a time in nintendo's history when they've busted out the technological guns -- even with the 64-bit N64, there were so many technical limitations associated with the console, nintendo are conservative at their best.

 

[Richard7]

i'm a bit skeptical of the new console being technologically superior to 360/PS3 myself. i don't think there's ever been a time in nintendo's history when they've busted out the technological guns -- even with the 64-bit N64, there were so many technical limitations associated with the console, nintendo are conservative at their best.

I have almost no doubt that their next console will be either equal with the 360 and PS3 or more powerful. It shouldn't be hard for them to make the hardware better than 2005 technology while at the same time making it kinda cheap. Its funny with Nintendo, you have to ask yourself if their next console will be more powerful than their rivals previous console *facepalm*

Problem with releasing their console with what looks like a 1 or 2 year lead over Microsoft and Sony is that Microsoft and Sony's next consoles will be beasts compared to Nintendo's.... again.

They've backed themselves into a corner, their options are release their console 1 or 2 years early with the problem I just mentioned above, or release it at the same time while in the meantime getting extremely bad sales from their current console. I would rather them do the latter, Nintendo are damn rich, 1 or 2 years of bad sales won't hurt them much.

 

[luke_atyeo]

nah cao, your forgetting about the SNES, that was pretty amazing, and nintendo was able to push that console to its very limits with games like starfox (practically impossible to do on that hardware)

or maybe your also forgetting about the 3DS.
nintendo can bust out those guns when they want to.


besides, you guys are all focusing on POWER, and your losing sight of the true picture, who gives a **** about that ****.

FF7, by todays standards, has the ****test ****ass graphics and all that fancy stuff, but its still one of the best games ever made.

if your a ****ing ****** who cares even one whit about graphics, then you should be ashamed and sit in the corner quietly.
maybe whilst your in that corner you can play guitar hero 72, and cod 58.

 

[Richard7]

Graphics is nice, but not needed. Its just good though if Nintendo make their console equal or close to equal of their rival's consoles because then Nintendo can choose whether or not their games have epic graphics.

Plus 3rd party developers want their games to be multiplatform, If Nintendo do what they did with the Wii, Nintendo won't get many big name 3rd party games.

 

[Hotdog]

I'm skeptical. I bet it's going to be crap with an improved version of Friend codes.

I have no faith in them since the Wii and the bazillion DS's they've brought out.

 

[CAOTIC]

i ain't gonna lie -- i'm a shallow gamer who loves nice graphics. i'm also a huge fan of online features on console (XBL?)

but luke's right -- some of the older stuff looks better than the new -- wind waker is still the sexiest looking thing out there!

 

[luke_atyeo]

nah dude its because people are ******** and have put these stupid misconceptions on things.

so many games go 'multiplatformed' on the ps2 and xbox, but didnt go to the gamecube, even though the gamecube was a more powerful system then the ps2.

nintendo have just got a bad rep, which is dumb because they were gods with the nes and saved the video game industry of north america.
then the snes blew everyone away and hasnt ever been topped comparativly.
not to mention everything everyones ever done, was done by nintendo first.
everyone just shamelessy rips them off.
things like analog sticks, dpads, shoulder buttons, rumble packs, memory cards, ****ing you name it, they did it, even now with the playstation move and xbox kinetic, I wonder where those ideas came from.

and do you know how hard it would have been to invent a dpad.
think about it, it real life up and down dont make you go forward and back.
theres some amazing minds at nintendo, but nobody seems to give a **** about that.
all they want is better graphics.


like holy ****, what about mario galaxy, thats nice graphics, how much better do you people ****ing want it?
go play supermario brothers 3 on the snes, whats wrong with those graphics?
****ing *******


snes/genesis/megadrive was called the golden age of gaming for a reason.

people have lost sight of things these days.


dont take this as a nintendo fanboy rant though, I just think they dont get the respect they deserve, they get dog**** on a plate.

xbox is lame, but sony know what they are doing.
theres a reason why the ps2 is the best selling console of all time, and if I remember correctly its sold more then double what the 3rd best selling console has.
the reason I say 3rd is because, again if I'm not mistaken, the 2nd best selling console of all time is the ps1

 

[luke_atyeo]

cao its not even about older stuff looking better.
its that everyone focus's on graphics instead of how good the game actually is, which gives you these **** games that are pretty to look at but have no personality - sounds like my ex wife.

People are ******** and it shows 'oh man, avatar is the GREATEST MOVIE, its so unique and the story line is so fresh and original'

avatar? oh you mean pocahontos 3d?
cool story bro.
nice moive dont get me wrong, but its not legendary by any means, just goes to show that people are dumb

 

[Richard7]

Games have changed. It's no longer about gameplay, storylines or framerate. Its about an endless series of game releases fought between Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.

Games - and its consumption of teenage lives, has become a well funded industry.

Games have changed.

Thumbs up to anyone that got the reference, looking at you Luke.

In all honesty though, games are becoming more about graphics and about appealing to people that like graphics.

@Cao If you wanna talk about Gamecube games still looking good to todays standards, look at F-zero GX and Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader.

@Luke. Mario Galaxy does look quite nice and I'd still be happy if every new game in the world looked like that. But graphics just do something for people, they just make you enjoy the game more. Also, games like Super Mario Bros 3 on SNES have a way of still looking good no matter how old they are. Many of those types of games are games on the SNES actually, to name a few, Lufia II, Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, 3 and The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past.

 

[Rad]

Games are the same as they've always been.

Although I have a soft spot for PS1 and 2

 

[luke_atyeo]

graphics only make you enjoy games more if your a ****ing ****** (do you think I've got my point across yet)

unfortunatly, 90% or so of the word falls into that catorgory

 

[Richard7]

graphics only make you enjoy games more if your a ****ing ****** (do you think I've got my point across yet)

unfortunatly, 90% or so of the word falls into that catorgory

For some people, if you gave them OOT and told them it was a really good game, they simply wouldn't play it because the graphics aren't good enough for them.

But for someone like me, if you gave me OOT and I'd never played it before and you told me it was really good, I wouldn't play it these days because of the framerate, I can't stand games that aren't 60 fps. Then there's games that you can give me that aren't 60 frames but I'll still play them, simply because they don't really need to be 60 frames, like SMB 3. (at least I think SMB 3 isn't 60 frames lol)

People just have different standards.

 

[luke_atyeo]

yeah but you also wouldnt play any game because most games have music


I'm just saying peoples standards are ****, and when those transfer to industry standards somethings gone horribly wrong

 

[Richard7]

I'm just saying peoples standards are ****, and when those transfer to industry standards somethings gone horribly wrong

I agree with everything you've been saying for the most part. My best example is this.

I play Black Ops Wii over the PS3 and Xbox360 (sometimes even the PC version when I'm bored of it) versions because of the controls are much better on Wii. The graphics aren't very good on the Wii version, but they're good enough.

 

[Robsta]

Does this mean competitive games?

Will we finally get a sequel to melee?

 

[Timic83]

"Masahiro Sakurai, the game designer behind Smash Bros. and Kid Icarus: Uprising was one of the first developers to get time with the Nintendo 3DS, which makes me wonder if he’s working on a Smash Bros. game for the Wii HD.

In the above tweet, Sakurai shared his experience with Crysis 2, marvelling at its HD graphics. Later, he tweeted:

I’d like to try HD at some point. I wonder if I’ll get the opportunity?

Before today’s rumors I wouldn’t have placed much value on the tweet. Most developers like playing with technologies they haven’t used. But now that we expect the Wii HD to be announced at E3 2011 and previous reports suggest that “publishers are already planning launch titles” it seems likely that Sakurai is working on a project, especially since Uprising must be done, or nearing completion by this point.

It doesn’t necessarily mean that Smash Bros. is in the works. But it has been a while since Brawl was released, and given all the other fan-service Nintendo has been pumping out for the 3DS, there’s a noticeable lack of Smash Bros. Maybe they’ve been holding back on the game because it’s in development for the Wii HD?

Smash Bros. will come to Nintendo’s next home console at some point. It sells too well for them to ignore it entirely. But I have a feeling we could see it as a launch title, or at least a launch window title. What do you think?"

FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU NO MORE SMASH PLEASE DONT RUIN IT ANYMORE LET IT DIE ARGGGGH

 

[Vyse]

I have almost no doubt that their next console will be either equal with the 360 and PS3 or more powerful. It shouldn't be hard for them to make the hardware better than 2005 technology while at the same time making it kinda cheap. Its funny with Nintendo, you have to ask yourself if their next console will be more powerful than their rivals previous console *facepalm*

Problem with releasing their console with what looks like a 1 or 2 year lead over Microsoft and Sony is that Microsoft and Sony's next consoles will be beasts compared to Nintendo's.... again.

They've backed themselves into a corner, their options are release their console 1 or 2 years early with the problem I just mentioned above, or release it at the same time while in the meantime getting extremely bad sales from their current console. I would rather them do the latter, Nintendo are damn rich, 1 or 2 years of bad sales won't hurt them much.

If Nintendo wanted to make consoles to push hardware boundaries, they wouldn't succeed. Remember Dreamcast?

Luke you are such a boss.

 

[Hotdog]

PS2 is still outselling Xbawks in Japan lol.

Edit: 360*

 

[luke_atyeo]

thats because japanese people are smart and dont like microsoft horse ****


vyse!!!
we need to hang out soon!

 

[Vyse]

Yeah man.

We can play Nazo no Murasamejou.

 

[Darkwing SykeDuk]

dreamcast failed because developers got sick of sega making a new console every 2 years. As well as the PS2 coming out soon after with superior specs+support.

 

[CAOTIC]

dreamcast did quietly well in japan if i can recall. there was developer support for it right until the end of the PS2/cube era.

 

[Darkwing SykeDuk]

major developers jumped off early and moved to Sony. Think about the big dc games

sonic adventure series
shenmue
phantasy star
skies of arcadia

all developed by sega studios lol

and the 64 was still making games like majoras mask, dk64, banjo, perfect dark etc at the same time. Dreamcast just got drowned.

 

[Sieg]

imo PC's are better.

God, never thought I'd be saying that in my lifetime lol, goes to show how much changes XD

Since when has making a new console with better graphics been the way of Nintendo anyway? Turning the Wii into a PS3/4 isn't going to suddenly make it amazingly popular. They need more gimmicks.

 

[Marteh]

Didn't the Dreamcast flop due to the Saturn day shenanigans pissed off alot of 3rd party developers due to their software wasn't completed in time for launch, thus they refused to support the Dreamcast either

 

[Richard7]

imo PC's are better.

God, never thought I'd be saying that in my lifetime lol, goes to show how much changes XD

Since when has making a new console with better graphics been the way of Nintendo anyway? Turning the Wii into a PS3/4 isn't going to suddenly make it amazingly popular. They need more gimmicks.

PC gaming is pretty much the best. But I consider it a different category to console gaming. Most of my gaming has shifted to the PC in recent years.

Its not really turning the Wii into a PS4, its their next console, not a Wii 2. Although I can't say that with 100% confidence because it hasn't been announced yet. But having crazy graphics would actually make Nintendo games more popular, not that Nintendo aren't popular enough already....

*looks at total Wii sales*

Roughly 84.64 million.

*looks at top 7 selling Wii games"

Wii Play - 28.15m
Mario Kart Wii - 26.63m
Wii Sports Resort - 25.84m
Wii Fit - 22.71m
New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 21.61m
Wii Fit Plus - 18.74m
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 10.28m

Now consider for a moment that Modern Warfare 2 was announced to of made $1 billion after about 20 million copies, Modern Warfare 2 has currently sold 21.51 million (not including PC sales). Now consider just how much money Nintendo have.....

 

[Darkwing SykeDuk]

dont forget the gameboy, wii shop etc

 

[Marteh]

Well actually Wiiplay wouldnt of made that much since it's basically $10 a pop

When I say not much, I mean comparatively..I wish I made that much

 

[Silfa]

theres a reason why the ps2 is the best selling console of all time, and if I remember correctly its sold more then double what the 3rd best selling console has.
the reason I say 3rd is because, again if I'm not mistaken, the 2nd best selling console of all time is the ps1

wut

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

edit: actually I see what you mean now. still, you smell so i dont care.

 

[Marteh]

If you're wut-ing about the ps1 being second best I'll facepalm
If you're wut-ing about the double than 3rd. It's not that far off really.


This topic so got off track, as usual


Edit: FFFFF~ Edit yours before I post D:

 

[xXArrowXx]

nintendogs...for this new console?
more gimicks than previous nintendo systems.

i agree with luke snes and nes weren't mucking around. gamecube was still good 2.. needed more support tho :/
wii is a gimmick factory.. sure it has some good games..but... >.> i play my ps3 more than it.. i wonder why that is.

 

[Marteh]

Ive prob played my Snes more than my Wii ever since I stopped playing Brawl.

Im hardcore like that