new moves that are worse

[Ridley5000]

whose new moves do u think make the character worse, or are just useless

i think marios water gun waas a waste of an attack, nice to see it since mario sunshine, but not much of an effect

peach's new butt bomb or whatevr it is called is worse now
same with jiggly's new rest move
falco's new reflector move is cool and makes him more diffrent than fox, but its not always great

 

[Ace Of Flames]

Yeah, water gun sucks

 

[Negi-Kun]

Peach's side b is way better. Is has more rage, is reliable for recovery, and is floatier and has less lag after it is executed.

The "water gun" is called Fludd btw.

 

[~N9NE~]

FLUDD is not that useless. Good for some edge-guarding action.

 

[Sosuke]

Bowser's klaw.

You heard me. >_>

 

[Xebenkeck]

Bowser's klaw.

You heard me. >_>

This, and links new "chargeable"(whoo hoo) upb, sucks

 

[Kraryo]

FLUDD is one of the few reasons Mario is higher than Sonic. FLUUD, along with his cape gives him the gimping ability to make up for his lack of good KO moves.

I'd say that Falco's new dspecial is better than if he used it the old way. Normal reflector style isn't as great if it can't infinite combo. His kick gives him good range.

For a new move that made an existing character worse, it would definetly be Toon Link's dair. I would play Toon more often if he had the same dair that he had when he was Young Link.

 

[Jimnymebob]

Kirby's aerial Side B.

 

[TheSMASHtyke]

What happened to sheik's Dair?

Brawl happened to sheik's Dair.

 

[kr3wman]

Kirby's aerial Side B.

lolwut.

I remember it being so useful in Melee.

/obvioussarcasm

 

[Judge Judy]

FLUDD is far more useful than Mario's tornado in Melee.

Read this, it's stickied for a reason: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=196174

 

[Earthbound Zero]

Jiggly's Sing. It has almost no priority, at all.

That and Falcon's Knee, it's, like, prosthetic now.

 

[Tamoo]

pretty much all of falcon actually, kirby's up air in no longer a reliable killer.
pikachus upair and bair, marth's fsmash, luigi misfire, samus's projectiles,
some moves that have been nerfed considerably

 

[Kraryo]

I don't remember Jigglypuff's Sing being useful.

 

[thecatinthehat]

Airdodge.

 

[jaaboy]

you could short hop sings and get away with a free sleep if you were ballsy in melee, but its all of useless in brawl now

 

[Corigames]

whose new moves do u think make the character worse, or are just useless

All of Samus.

 

[Ridley5000]

jigglypuff's sing is useful if......................no wait never mind, jiggy's sing is as useless as sandbags(unless u want items)

 

[ExCeL 52]

Peach's Down Smash.. Sob sob .. But I cant complain... Her Down aerial .. Forward Aerial and Speacial moves have improved greatly... Wait.. Turnips too...

 

[Ridley5000]

i think the turnips hav stayed the same, but thats just me

 

[Frown]

Mewtwo's up B was nerfed, and his new ninja outfit is lame.

Link's up B was really OMGWTFIONLYHAD70%ANDGOTKILLED in Melee, but now, Sonic uses his side taunt at it.

 

[dean.]

G&W nair.

Still useful though.

 

[justaway12]

jigglys rest and peachs Dsmash

 

[PrepareYourself]

Warlock Punch.

Useless, honestly.

 

[FireKirby7]

Ness's uthrow. It looked so cool back then.

 

[hyperhopper]

Mewtwo's up B was nerfed, and his new ninja outfit is lame.

Link's up B was really OMGWTFIONLYHAD70%ANDGOTKILLED in Melee, but now, Sonic uses his side taunt at it.

links upb really needed a nerf. there is this one kid who uses only it, and it is so annoying

 

[Jigglymaster]

jigglypuff's sing is useful if......................no wait never mind, jiggy's sing is as useless as sandbags(unless u want items)

You can ledge cancel sing btw...

 

[Altaz Link]

Yeah, water gun sucks

Because you don't know how to use it.

 

[BBoyindo]

You can ledge cancel sing btw...

Lol i did that today and rested him:D I was so proud of myself

 

[fissionprime]

Kirby's aerial Side B.

no... just no, i'm sure there are people who have never even played the game that know you're wrong.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I liked Marth's old Shield Breaker, but it works.

Yoshi's Up B combined with terrible air dodge just don't work.

Samus, just about all of 'em.

FLUDD isn't great, but it has its(albeit few) uses.

Sonic's Down B/Forward B would've been great if they weren't so similar.

The Koopa Klaw wasn't as sweet(IMO), but it does its job. Except in All-Star, ****it!

Pikachu's Air Back A has sucked since Melee, and his Forward B probably isn't as awesome as Pichu's.

Jigglypuff...just Jigglypuff.

I prefer Mr. Game & Watch's Up B in Melee.

Way too many others to list, probably.

 

[Eaode]

links upb really needed a nerf. there is this one kid who uses only it, and it is so annoying

Hahahahaha

 

[Dragoomba]

Charizard's fire breath.

He was invincible in Melee when he was summoned.

 

[Kais3000]

Falco's down throw... you can't really do much after it.

 

[dean.]

no... just no, i'm sure there are people who have never even played the game that know you're wrong.

Arial hammer was pretty useful in Melee.
Personally, I never found a use for it but all the good Kirby's used it.

 

[brinboy789]

wow nobody mentioned rest yet?

 

[Drakar]

marios water gun is horrid

i like falcos kick the deflector thing though

 

[Drakar]

ooh and rest

 

[IKOU]

REST, it sucks in brawl. it cant be used for any really good combos because they removed the side knockback. it could be OK if it didn't have purely vertical knockback, despite having like less than half of its original power.

 

[tsu-money]

Well unfortunately, some characters had to get nerfed a bit for one reason or another. Imagine if all the moves from Melee remained the same when Brawl came out. There would be some crazy stuff going on.