New Dice Rule

[#HBC | Ryker]

If a host judges you to have played a HORRENDOUS game and ****ed over your faction, you lose your dice. If you're really a good player, you should be able to earn them back anyway.

Petition:

1.) Ryker
2.) Gordito
3.) Gheb
4.) Soupaderp
5.) Ranmaru
6.) JTB
7.) Bean ****
8.) Joey

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

2.) Gordito

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I support this rule. Swiss with a gold dice just doesn't make sense.

 

[JTB]

I support this rule. Swiss with a gold dice just doesn't make sense.

The callout

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

agree and signing.

not like it matters, but in all honesty the game i'm playing in i'm rolling for dice.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

NOT DISSIDA.

i was a **** that game.

 

[ranmaru]

I don't mind. This would also make sure people with dice stay on their toes, if they want to keep their dice.

I'll support it.

HA. Soup. You make me laugh.

 

[JTB]

Oh yeah, /sign

Even if I'm new to mafia, the logic still makes complete sense.

 

[adumbrodeus]

At face value looks like a good idea, I'll consider it but I'm not sure yet.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

just you wait ran

i'll become the next swiss

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Swiss sucks at this game. What are you talking about?

Oh wait.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

see

10c of seas

 

[ranmaru]

just you wait ran

i'll become the next swiss

Swiss became swiss by his second game. How many games u in campbells soup?

 

[Beat!]

Agreeing, signing, etc.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

my second game.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

 

[ranmaru]

ooohh. derp.

So that means u gotta get mvp that game to become swiss right?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

**** yes man

also if a guy with premimum wants to offically change my name to soupaderp i would love you like my left nut

 

[ranmaru]

See ya at the finish line then.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

you got modded out you jerk.

 

[Circus]

**** yes man

also if a guy with premimum wants to offically change my name to soupaderp i would love you like my left nut

Don't know anyone who would want lovin' like that.

 

[ranmaru]

@Circus:

A girl ofc.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

quiet jerkus

 

[ranmaru]

Don't know what u mean.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

ran, riddle me this?

why is everyone is dgames so paranoid and nosy?

WHO ARE YOU
ARE YOU SCUM
HERE IS EVIDIDVENCE OF WHY YOU ARE SCUM

this post is scummy

HERE YOU CLEARLY STATE YOU ARE SCUM

Vote super scum bro man

opnions everyone?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Why in the hell does that post have to be in my topic? Can we have it deleted?

 

[ranmaru]

Oh, didn't u know?

Dgames is srs beesnees man.

Yes I'm sure you can Ryker.

@SOup:

That was prolly cuz that dude slipped some scum u know?

(We kinda were talkin about Soup getting MVP)

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

have it modded over to V/LA social.

10logic +

 

[Beat!]

I'm starting to fear that "Bean****" will remain for the rest of my life.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

you'll get used to the smell.

 

[mentosman8]

Nah, this is a bad idea. The dice aren't meant to be a sign of consistent accomplishment, but a sign of accomplishment in a game. By saying they can be removed for bad performance, it's changing them from a sign of winning an MVP into some kind of rating system. The dice are fine as they are: A signifier of an outstanding performance in a given game. No matter what they do in the future, they will always hold onto their mvp from the game and/or games they earned them from, and as such the dice will always hold the same meaning: that at some point in their Dgames career, they won an MVP.

Not to mention, how exactly does one define a "horrendous game"? Inactivity? Most everyone has, or will, run into real life problems that cause their activity to falter or fail, and this isn't a sign of a bad player but of the fact that this is a game and real life takes precedence when it comes to a choice. Being completely wrong about scum? Everyone's done it before. CC'ing dayvig? Admittedly it's stupid, but everyone makes a stupid mistake sometimes. There is no way to define a "bad" game like there is to define an MVP performance. Quite frankly, a "bad" game comes down to things people don't like. This idea has nothing going for it, and causes more problems than it solves.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I really laughed at the "CC'ing dayvig" part. Swords is never going to live that one down.

Anyway, I think I'm with mentos on this one. The only change I personally would make to the dice system would be to add more colors for additional MVP performances.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Mentos deserves to get one Dice taken away for that post.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Mentos, calling BS. What defines an MvP preformance? Pinning scum? Great misdirection as scum? Winning as SK? Admittedly all of them are good, but everyone has a good game sometimes.

Both are just as subjective.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

you know.. i got a srs question for once.

what makes you MVP material for a game?

living until the end?
playing pro-town? playing pro-scum?

let's say you're doing hella awesome d1 and d2, you are on top of your game.

but let's say you suck *** the rest of the game.

should you still win MVP for your d1 and d2 performances, or does the ****ty end ruin it?

 

[ranmaru]

I am usually wrong about scum. I also messed up a CC but town managed to win tho.

I'm usually active and force everyone to post when they can. I talk and ask questions. : ]


@Soup:

Maybe. Maybe if u caught scum and made life easier for town or something. And it depends how good everyone else was playing.

Now that soup asks that, what if EVERYONE didn't do well?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

other things could include that you are lynched, NKed, etc.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

It's subjective, Soup. Was your amazing D1/D2 play the major determining factor for town victory or was it someone else stepping up on D3 and later.

 

[mentosman8]

Mentos, calling BS. What defines an MvP preformance? Pinning scum? Great misdirection as scum? Winning as SK? Admittedly all of them are good, but everyone has a good game sometimes.

Both are just as subjective.

MVP is a lot less subjective. Sure, there are multiple factors to an MVP, and you listed some of them. However, there is a nice over-arching point to an MVP: Being a player who is a driving force for your faction, and being one of the biggest influences on the game. These performances are quantifiable. While there are multiple factors that go into them, they can all fit into one greater definition that encompasses them all.

There is no such thing for a bad game. Not to mention, some things that are considered bad play by some is normal play for others. People consider it bad to not openly make stances, yet that is one common point of my play that has no effect on my ability to play the game. People consider it bad to not post a lot of content, yet KevinM and Marshy are both notorious for this while still being regarded as a couple of the upper-echelon players of the site. These things vary, and more importantly, there is no overarching thing that contains all of them that can be consistently judged. Omni hosting a game may consider someone who doesn't post a whole lot to have played a terrible game, even if those posts have a lot of content. Someone else may consider Kevin to always play a terrible game by posting more, but with less content than the person who doesn't post much at all. It is a lot more subjective what constitutes a bad game than a good one.

Furthermore, this fails to counter my main point that the dice are not a rating system but a visual representation of MVP awards, and hence, taking them away makes no sense because they still hold the MVPs they represent. There is no conceivable reason, in their current form, for dice to be taken away because they have no rating quality to them beyond "oh, this guy played (1-sideways8) games really well at some point."

 

[Dooms]

Can we get nega dice?

/sign

 

[Xivii]

Ironic that you're the one to post this, Ryker :3

Also basically the first sentence of Mentos' nah post. Didn't read the rest.

Dice should just be harder to get. If an actor wins an oscar for making a really good movie, you don't take their oscar away because they make a bad movie sometime in the future.

Dice aren't meant for representation of skill level, they are meant to show accomplishments. You can't take away the fact that someone has accomplished something.