New Dice Rule

[~ Gheb ~]

Then half of the MVPs need to get taken away again.

 

[X1-12]

Are you proposing that we apply this retroactively?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

There's no need.

 

[vanderzant]

Gosh not to be a whiny **** but i miss the days where we played mafia to have fun and get better not **** 24/7 about stupid dice...

 

[Omni]

won't sign it

dice are earned because you play good games. even if u play bad in other games it doesn't take away the one or two good games you played very well in.

plus it's very negative. and subjective. subjective + negative = massive drama and can turn away new players who truly aren't good at a game or who truly make mistakes from wanting to play or take risks or say things.

if a player intentionally tries to sabatoge his faction then i believe it should be noted and GM's can be more selective of who they invite into their games

anyone who signs or supports this is just being salty cuz someone's actions made a game for them less fun

 

[Dooms]

I noticed that the dice talk is really common and quite honestly it seems that most of the decent players that are newer here just care about dice. Completely agree with Vand that mafia in dgames isn't about dice.

After dice are used in an argument to call you stupid, you honestly have no reason to care about them. I guess that's my point of view LOL.

I still like this idea though because I want negative 5 dice.

 

[mentosman8]

I don't think that's what's really going on though Vandy. I'm sure Ryker felt this would be a good way to encourage people, especially those with dice, to play better. It doesn't fit at all with the system dice are there for, and would be very hard, if not impossible, to judge whether a game was "terrible" enough to warrant a loss of dice, so I feel it's a bad idea, but I don't really see any *****ing going on here, just a nice calm debate on a proposed change to the way dgames works :D(well, and some horsing around too, but this is dgames, what do you expect?)

E: Great addition to the way dice work? 8 MVPs earns you the fluorite octet :D

 

[Tom]

This isn't a good idea.

Mentos has brought up a lot of important reasons for why its a bad idea, but the most important to me is that you shouldn't punish players for bad performances. That will be bad for the community. Regardless of performance, it is literally one DGamer telling another that he deserves to be punished for his play in his game. And regardless of intent, that is harsh.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gosh not to be a whiny **** but i miss the days where we played mafia to have fun and get better not **** 24/7 about stupid dice...

I'd sigs it if I were ever anywhere else aside from DGames, where sigs are banned

I remember when this thread was a joke. Remember Gheb/S2 ?

 

[Dooms]

Honestly

If people didn't think of themselves as superior when they have dice, or didn't think of dice as a competition, then I wouldn't agree with this at all. But it's becoming just that, and it's really making the game less enjoyable for the players that aren't leading town and the players that aren't up to their full potential but want to be there eventually.

When you play the game with people pulling extremely dumb **** all the time for MVP, then it makes the game less enjoyable. I would rather play the game with everyone having fun than playing a game with people trying to be superior over one another. The game should be played more for fun and less for trying to get MVP. You're not letting other people have their chance at improving if you're trying to do everything for yourself. It's not a one versus one game either. Everyone playing should be involved and not just used as a person forced to vote someone by people that lead town around.

I guess I'm just ranting now, but yeah I agree with this idea.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I don't think that's what's really going on though Vandy. I'm sure Ryker felt this would be a good way to encourage people, especially those with dice, to play better.

Except I'm trolling.

 

[ranmaru]

I dunno Joey. I kinda like it how it is. Don't want it to turn into

Aimafia DGAMES with TOWN CONFUSED OF WHO TO LYNCH...

hey lets lynch joey
k
vote joey
everyone votes joey
whee hee
yay
fun

Whats worse

Every thread would be 5 pages at max
the WHOLE TOWN inactive
short posts everywhere
scum ALWAYS win because of inactivity
no one cares cuz it's not srs

 

[Dooms]

I don't see how it could turn into an aimafia playstyle through this.

 

[BSL]

/sign

i want to have negadice. but only if i get something in my postbit for it.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Dices with duncecaps!

 

[ranmaru]

lol. Snake eyes.

 

[Tom]

Except I'm trolling.

dont waste my ****ing time

ugh

THIS IS MY FACE RIGHT NOW ---->

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Pro-tip: If I say something dumb, I'm trolling.

 

[ranmaru]

Pro-tip: If I say something dumb, I'm dumb.

Yeah no excuses.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ran thinks everyone is on his level.

 

[Delvro]

This is a dangerous idea. All it's going to do is make people really mad. I don't see what good comes out of it.

Why take away people's accomplishments?

Edit: I'll gladly take dice with duncecaps, however.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

This thread is pretty funny, but I would second BSL's idea of making negadice a thing. Not for punishment's sake or any sort of anti-reward, just for the sake of being hilarious.

 

[KevinM]

Plus I remember back in my day we used to walk 15 miles back and forth uphill bothways in the snow just to play mafia and we didn't have any of these fancy pantsy dice thingers on the bottom of our screen.

Did we need them to have good games not a chance!

kids these days...

*grumble grumble*

 

[Beat!]

I lol'd irl

 

[Tom]

Pro-tip: If I say something dumb, I'm trolling.

please stop, the fact that you are from alabama is become more and more apparent

 

[BSL]

throwin down some ill burns.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

please stop, the fact that you are from alabama is become more and more apparent

Tennessee with the call-out?

 

[Tom]

Tennessee with the call-out?

because im generous i will allow you one re-do on this awful response

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Idk, I still think Dices are handed out waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easily. 50% of the games games should not give a dice PERIOD. A dice should be given to an OUTSTANDING performance only. At this rate they're just worthless and you might as well take them away for bad performances.

 

[Dooms]

Y'all sutherners better just stop talkin with yur suthern accent and what not...

 

[Swiss]

Laughed at the first page. People gettin' mad salty at Swiss 'cuz he so pro. Don't worry kids, I promise to carry you when we next play together.

Idk, I still think Dices are handed out waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easily. 50% of the games games should not give a dice PERIOD. A dice should be given to an OUTSTANDING performance only. At this rate they're just worthless and you might as well take them away for bad performances.

Agree with this, regardless of the horrendously obvious trollish intent behind the thread.

Except when I would have been the MVP suddenly it isn't handed out. Amirite?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Idk, I still think Dices are handed out waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easily. 50% of the games games should not give a dice PERIOD. A dice should be given to an OUTSTANDING performance only. At this rate they're just worthless and you might as well take them away for bad performances.

Agree that dice are handed out too easily. Disagree if you're saying we should retroactively take away dice. That would be really bad for Dgames sodium intake levels.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I think we should just go back to zero with these dices and make it a bit more consensus based. If all - or at least the majority - of the players in a game agree that performance X was outstanding then a dice is due.

 

[Beat!]

I think we should just go back to zero with these dices

I was just going to suggest this.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

So what I think is that in order to become MVP in a game you have to notably outplay everybody else. Having a tied dice is a contradiction to me.
These performances do deserve MVP awards beyond any doubt:

Simpsons Mafia - KevinM
Hentai Mafia - Rockin
Batma(n)fia 2 - Ryker
Pokémafia - yours truly
Bioware - EE
Mario Kart - Omni

The rest is up in the air or I didn't read a specific performance that deserves the award.

 

[Beat!]

When I'm in doubt, I read Hentai Mafia for inspiration. Rockin really nailed it.

 

[KevinM]

I like Gheb's idea but we already ruined that :D

I was under the impression we were going to use only one dice color and it was going to be given out rather rarely.

The whole tier of dice system is weird because it just makes it seem competitive for the dice moreso then just recognition of this player had a game that was literally mind glowingly good.

 

[Tom]

the two tiered dice thing was an accident

 

[adumbrodeus]

Idk, I still think Dices are handed out waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easily. 50% of the games games should not give a dice PERIOD. A dice should be given to an OUTSTANDING performance only. At this rate they're just worthless and you might as well take them away for bad performances.

I agree with this, MVPs only for truly outstanding performances in-game, at the mod's discretion of course but it SHOULD NOT be assumed.

I like Gheb's idea but we already ruined that :D

I was under the impression we were going to use only one dice color and it was going to be given out rather rarely.

Furthermore, I think that dices should be for mind-blowingly good performances that play to a player's wincon (so if they gambit out of the blue and it can either work or blow up in their face, it shouldn't automatically be considered mvp-worthy).

The whole tier of dice system is weird because it just makes it seem competitive for the dice moreso then just recognition of this player had a game that was literally mind glowingly good.

We can still do it for the future, the problem with applying it retroactively is that it will cause massive amounts of drama which would make it difficult to put the system in place in the first place.

Leave existing, apply it to new games, saavy?

 

[Swiss]

^ Unfair on players yet to get gold dice.