OoT: Keywords there: Magically imbued. The entire fight was magic-based, with one punch thrown in (and even that was magic). As for Beast Sword Ganon - yes, that would be fairly hard to do. However, the very fact that he uses swords when he's in such a monstrously powerful form (where he certainly doesn't need them, with all the brutish strength that thing shows) shows that he favors using them as weapons even when he doesn't need to
Ganon's attacks in Smash are magically imbued as well, so I don't see the argument there.
When he doesn't have access to a weapon, his isn't fazed by the switch to punches and kicks. That's the thing, his weapons are merely varied tools (aside from maybe the trident), unlike the Master Sword, Falchion, Ragnell, Sword of Seals, etc. The most implementable choice of sword would be the execution sword, but that is possibly the only weapon that Ganondorf actively despises, so it loses out on the "preference" argument a fair bit (I'd at least question the canon behind using it as the base for an entire moveset. When you can't even implement any of his swords into a well designed character, it makes sense to me that he would fall back on what he's always been able to depend on: his fists.
WW: Yes, he does use some punches instead of his sword before the fight. Because he didn't want to kill them at the time. His line right after those attacks were, "Do not fear. I will not kill you.I merely have need of the power that dwells within you." He very specifically used non-lethal attacks. If he'd used his swords or magic like that, Link would have been dead, and he didn't want that yet.
Fair enough. I guess my line of thinking was that we know he could kill without a weapon anyways. Just because nonlethal punches were used doesn't mean all of his punches would be nonlethal (also, I know cutscene vs. gameplay is a bit of a lame argument, but just how lethal were those swords exactly? Not very). Ganondorf is clearly capable of fighting without a weapon, so doing the same in Smash doesn't specifically go against canon.
TP: Conveniently within reach? He was impaled on it. Maybe Dante can casually pull a sword out of his torso and use it, but I've certainly never seen Ganondorf do that. Not to mention the fact that he was clearly too enraged and drunk on the Triforce's power to think clearly. And yes, he did use a couple of kicks and elbows - as supplements to his sword style. Not as a fighting style all its own.
I'm not so sure it's safe to assume that he couldn't have used the sword at the time. What was stopping him from pulling the blade out? It had absolutely zero power to actually kill him.
Part of what made Ganondorf's style impressive in any sense of the word was the combination with physical attacks. We already have the physical attacks on a character, why not just add a few swords, primarily for those "killing blow" sort of moves? I've expressed plenty of interest for this sort of change. Throwing in an entire sword set will only make Ganon play with a lot more zoning that would honestly feel more "off" to me than the aesthetic problems with an unarmed style.
Also, I guess what I like about Smash Ganon is that it reflects that when Ganondorf really gets a hit from the Triforce of Power, he doesn't bother with swords so much. He's a mixture of sheer fury and careful plotting that really sets him apart. Maybe that's not technically as canon on the surface, but it feels more canon to me as far as playstyle fitting the character goes that I'm not so sure could be recreated in quite the same way.
Trident Dorf: The point of bringing him up wasn't to say he should specifically use his trident and fire bats, but to show that even in forms where his physical strength is vastly superior, he still prefers to use weapons and magic.
Alright, I probably looked at that wrong in my head. Still, see my comments on OoT Ganon.
And again, I repeat that I respect the fact that his mains are used to his current moveset, but there's no way that it's canon. Ganondorf uses punches and kicks as supplements to his fighting at best, but primarily focuses on weapons and magic even when he could easily just step on Link and be done with it.
Firstly, it doesn't sound as if you're disrespecting my fondness for the playstyle, rest assured of that.
What I don't like about this is that you seem to be saying that just because an attack doesn't conform precisely to what Ganon would prefer in a hypothetical situation immediately makes it anti-canon to the point of requiring a whole new character to fix it. I don't even know if I agree about the preference thing entirely, at one turn, preference for unarmed attacks is discredited as unclear thinking, but it's just fine that Ganondorf wields the execution sword for practically no reason other than spite to ye gods or whatnot. If we're talking in general and not strictly in implementable material I suppose you'd have the advantage, though.
So, I think I would still say that the moves are, in fact, canon, even if the fighting paradigm isn't so much (seems to me this was the major discrepancy). This seems like something a few moves and adjustments could fix rather than a new character.
Also, if I ever get Dthrow chain grabbed to death as Roy by
Black Shadow, just believe me when I say I don't like my chances for living peacefully after that.
