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andalsoandy

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Here's my terribly organized roster lol. I'll figure out a more "poetic" way to organize it later.
I like it for the most part. It has another Metroid character, Pichu, a Retro character, Black Shadow, a DK character, and EB character.

I don't like having two more Mario characters though. I'd drop whichever one doesn't make it into Smash 4 for Starfy.





Also, have we discussed Adeline from Kirby?
 

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I'm not sure. I mean, this is a pretty long thread. I really like her as a character though.
 

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I like it for the most part. It has another Metroid character, Pichu, a Retro character, Black Shadow, a DK character, and EB character.

I don't like having two more Mario characters though. I'd drop whichever one doesn't make it into Smash 4 for Starfy.





Also, have we discussed Adeline from Kirby?
I'd be cool with Adeline. I'm not sure she's as popular as Bandana Dee, but there's lots of creative things that could be done with her paintbrush. Hmm. Of course, Bowser Jr could have the paintbrush moveset, too, but I like Adeline better.
 

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I can confirm that Adeline hasn't been brought up before.
Either that, or no one liked the idea.
Feel free to discuss.
 

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The only thing I really agree with here is Andy. Metroid has been under-repped for long enough as it is, in my opinion. I would be okay with Dark Samus being cut for an F-Zero racer, but not for any of the others.
The only thing holding me back from Dark Samus is her name. Well, that's not the only reason, but the one I feel will hold her back most in the long run, Dark Link is a recolor, Dark Pit is a recolor, then there's Dark Samus. It's not that I don't like her/it, It's just I feel her presence may not be well received. While I have nothing against Metroid, I don't think its a series deserving of four reps. Burn me now.
Besides, people are always talking about new weapon based fighters. There are in fact two fighters from Kirby who could bring a new weapon to the table. Bandana Dee OR Galacta Knight could represent a lance based moveset. Waddles would be better for that particular theme but GK is that hype bringing Sephiroth character.
 

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The only thing holding me back from Dark Samus is her name. Well, that's not the only reason, but the one I feel will hold her back most in the long run, Dark Link is a recolor, Dark Pit is a recolor, then there's Dark Samus. It's not that I don't like her/it, It's just I feel her presence may not be well received. While I have nothing against Metroid, I don't think its a series deserving of four reps.
That's fair. When people hear 'Dark Samus', they automatically think, "Oh, she's exactly like Samus." It's the same way Ridley's "Too big." I'd honestly prefer Ridley, I just feel like Dark Samus is more likely from a gameplay standpoint.
Burn me now.
Nah, I only burn people for hating on Error. :p
Besides, people are always talking about new weapon based fighters. There are in fact two fighters from Kirby who could bring a new weapon to the table. Bandana Dee OR Galacta Knight could represent a lance based moveset. Waddles would be better for that particular theme but GK is that hype bringing Sephiroth Shadow Sasuke Geno Ninten Masked Man character.
I'd be okay with Bandana Dee, but honestly Galacta Knight gives me that same feel that Dark Samus gives you.
 

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I like it for the most part. It has another Metroid character, Pichu, a Retro character, Black Shadow, a DK character, and EB character.

I don't like having two more Mario characters though. I'd drop whichever one doesn't make it into Smash 4 for Starfy.





Also, have we discussed Adeline from Kirby?
Between the two, I'd drop Toad since people think he's a tad generic. I'd replace him with Dark Samus or Samurai Goroh. It's tough choosing which of my two favorite as-of-yet-unrepresented Mario characters to exclude, though, so I can only wish both were in :(

As for Adeline, I dunno, I think Bandana Dee or Gooey would be better Kirby reps. Those two are the last obvious choices, though Adeline does have as much room for creativity as Gooey (read: A LOT) with her ability to bring her art to life.

Also, for anyone curious, SOME stuff was organized in my roster.

-I put Wario under Toad because they were enemies in Wario's Woods.

-All clones (Toad, Black Shadow, Pichu included) are next to their base characters.

-Black Shadow is next to Ganondorf.

-Classic characters without sequels (save G&W), as well as Sonic and Snake are grouped together.

-Resident Project M characters Roy and Mewtwo are next to each other

That's really it, though :p

I'm on mobile now btw so I won't be able to reply quickly. :glare:
 

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I've always been in the realm that the PMBR likely will NOT even use all 5 of the extra character slots, let alone consider 8.
Sorry, but this new clone system is making you guys cray-cray.
I feel you on this one, to be honest. As much as I don't want to sound like I'm raining on anyone's parade (not saying that you're doing this), Pichu is probably the likliest and most feasible choice suggested in this thread. I'd be amazed if we filled more than one of the vacant clone spots anytime soon. Not that I'd mind being wrong about this.
 

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shoutouts to andalsoandy for getting on the real hype landmaster
i mean train

Galacta gave me those feels before I played KRtD. I guess how I feel now about GK is how people who've played the Prime games feel about Dark Samus.
Adeleine seems okay, but overall there are better options from Kirby(Waddles, GK, Gooey to an extent).
 

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shoutouts to andalsoandy for getting on the real hype landmaster
i mean train

Galacta gave me those feels before I played KRtD. I guess how I feel now about GK is how people who've played the Prime games feel about Dark Samus.
Adeleine seems okay, but overall there are better options from Kirby(Waddles, GK, Gooey to an extent).
 

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What if we had a character like Double who uses the best moves from the rest of the cast. Help me fill this out guys.
B- Synthesis/Solarbeam
>B- Green Missile
^B-
vB-Falco shine yo
A- #Kirbyjabs
>A-
^A- Mewtwo tail whip
vA-
>>A-Wolf's
>C- Marth
^C- Fox
 

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So what do you guys think about pmbr making their own unique character?Is that possible?
 

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What if we had a character like Double who uses the best moves from the rest of the cast.
In a Smash setting, that sounds like pure evil, insta-ban type ****.
Unless his survivability is less than Jiggs with 2.0 damage ratio.
 

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We could give it Lucario's Aura Storm as its Neutral Special, where it shoots it out of the cannon.
Side-B should work like Blue Falcon, it calls an Arwing in front. When it hits it takes them to Lylat Cruise where they're shot down by a downright pissed off Slippy until a stock is taken away.

What if we had a character like Double who uses the best moves from the rest of the cast. Help me fill this out guys.
B- Synthesis/Solarbeam
>B- Green Missile
^B-
vB-Falco shine yo
A- #Kirbyjabs
>A-
^A- Mewtwo tail whip
vA-
>>A-Wolf's
>C- Marth
^C- Fox
> A: Luigi's (complete with automatic wavedash)

What does C mean, though? I assume >>A is forward smash, or is that dash attack?
 
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In a Smash setting, that sounds like pure evil, insta-ban type ****.
Unless his survivability is less than Jiggs with 2.0 damage ratio.
Exactly what I was thinking. Give him a knee, Charizard's Nair. Maybe switch out Green Missile for Din's Fire or Flame Choke. I wanna try to keep it one move per character. I kinda don't wanna use Din's so we can get a lightning kick back air. Wait never mind Jigg's has a hella back air. Ganon dair, everyone needs more tstomp in their life.
 

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What if we had a character like Double who uses the best moves from the rest of the cast. Help me fill this out guys.
B- Synthesis/Solarbeam
>B- Green Missile
^B-
vB-Falco shine yo
A- #Kirbyjabs
>A-
^A- Mewtwo tail whip
vA-
>>A-Wolf's
>C- Marth
^C- Fox
How about Offense Up for B? Super Smash Attacks, ya know.
v Aerial - Falco's
> Aerial - Knee of Justice
< Aerial - Ness or Zelda
< Throw - Ness or Mewtwo
^ Throw - Mewtwo
 

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How about Offense Up for B? Super Smash Attacks, ya know.
^ Aerial - Falco's
< Throw - Ness or Mewtwo
^ Throw - Mewtwo
I'm trying to stay one move per character, we already got M2's ulilt. And Offense Up'd Fox Usmash? Now we're really getting. broken.
 

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MK Uair? Lucario dash attack that cancels? That gives us a chance to use Wolf's upair. But I really wanna use one of MK's moves. Man, the struggle of making a broken Smash character.
 

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I'm trying to stay one move per character, we already got M2's ulilt. And Offense Up'd Fox Usmash? Now we're really getting. broken.
Project M Minus ftw!

I wanna make a list of all the attacks we have to fill in.

Jab - Kirby
>A -
vA -
^A - Mewtwo Tail
>>A - Wolf
>C - Marth
vC -
^C - Fox
Nair -
Fair - Knee of Justice
Bair - Zelda?
Uair -
Dair -
B - Offense Up
>B - Green Missile
vB - Falco Shine
^B -
Get up attack -
Ledge attack -
^Throw -
vThrow -
>Throw -
<Throw - Ness Back Throw
Final Smash -

Hang on, instead of Mewtwo's tail - how about his Teleport?

Offense Up - Teleport right in front of enemy into U-Smash!
 
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Jab - Kirby
>A - Luigi
vA -
^A - Mewtwo Tail
>>A - Wolf
>C - Marth
vC -
^C - Fox
Nair - Charizard
Fair - Knee of Justice
Bair - Jiggs
Uair -
Dair - Ganon
B - Offense Up
>B - Din's Fire
vB - Falco Shine
^B - Shuttle Loop
---Glide Attack?- Pit?
Get up attack -
Ledge attack -
^Throw -
vThrow -
>Throw -
<Throw - Ness Back Throw
Final Smash -
Made some changes/additions. Objections?
 

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Made some changes/additions. Objections?
My only objection as of now is to SmashBoards not wanting to unspoiler that all the way. It just cuts off everything below Wolf :/

Edit: Turns out I can still see it all in my email notifications :p
Jab - Kirby
>A - Luigi
vA - Roy
^A - Mewtwo
>>A - Wolf
>C - Marth
vC -
^C - Fox
Nair - Charizard
Fair - Knee of Justice
Bair - Jiggs
Uair -
Dair - Ganon
B - Offense Up
>B - Din's Fire
vB - Falco Shine
^B - Shuttle Loop
Glide Attack- Pit
Get up attack -
Ledge attack -
^Throw -
vThrow -
>Throw -
<Throw - Ness
Hover - Peach
Final Smash -

Taunt 1 - Hiiiiiiii!!!
Taunt 2 - Prepare Yourself!
Taunt 3 -
It all looks good to me! I also added a couple for approval. What do you think of Mewtwo's Teleport as Up-B instead of his tail on ^A, by the way?

Edit:
... Oh, ****. I just noticed I gave him Peach's Hover combined with Knee of Justice.
 
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Jab - Kirby
>A -
vA -
^A - Mewtwo Tail
>>A - Wolf
>C - Marth
vC -
^C - Fox
Nair -
Fair - Knee of Justice
Bair - Jiggs
Uair -
Dair -
B - Offense Up
>B - Din's Fire
vB - Falco Shine
^B -Shuttle Loop
----Glide Attack?- Pit's Fair
Get up attack -
Ledge attack -
^Throw -
vThrow -
>Throw -
<Throw - Ness Back Throw
Final Smash -

Hang on, in
 

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Jab- Kirby
Ftilt- Luigi
Utilt- Mewtwo
Dtilt-
DashA- Lucario(With cancels for extra broken)
Fsmash- Marth
Usmash- Fox
Dsmash-
Nair- Charizard
Fair- Knee(With HYESZ taunt for extra salt)
Uair- Wolf
Bair- Jiggs
Dair- Ganon
B- Offense Up
>B- Din's Fire
^B- Shuttle Loop
----GlideA- Pit's Fair
vB- Falco Shine
Fthrow-
Uthrow-
Dthrow-
Bthrow- Ness
Final Smash- Landmaster :D
 

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Jab- Kirby
Ftilt- Luigi
Utilt- Mewtwo
Dtilt- Roy
DashA- Lucario(With cancels for extra broken)
Fsmash- Marth
Usmash- Fox
Dsmash- Wario
Nair- Charizard
Fair- Knee(With HYESZ taunt for extra salt)
Uair- Wolf
Bair- Jiggs
Dair- Ganon
B- Offense Up
>B- Din's Fire
^B- Shuttle Loop
----GlideA- Pit's Fair
vB- Falco Shine
Hover- Peach
Fthrow-
Uthrow-
Dthrow- Sheik
Bthrow- Ness
Final Smash- Landmaster :D

Taunt 1 - Hiiiiiiii!!!
Taunt 2 - Prepare Yourself!
Taunt 3 - Show me your moves!
 

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Why naught use Ike's Jab?
Even in PM, I find myself spamming that cheese.

I also think Snake's D-Throw would generate more salt than Shiek's.
 

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Why naught use Ike's Jab?
Even in PM, I find myself spamming that cheese.

I also think Snake's D-Throw would generate more salt than Shiek's.
Alright, Snake D-Throw is good. As for Ike's jab - Wynaut? Then we can have Kirby's Up Throw.

Also, just noticed - we should probably change Landmaster, since we have Fox, Falco and Wolf on other attacks - How about Super Sonic :awesome:?
Jab- Ike
Ftilt- Luigi
Utilt- Mewtwo
Dtilt- Roy
DashA- Lucario(With cancels for extra broken)
Fsmash- Marth
Usmash- Fox
Dsmash- Wario
Nair- Charizard
Fair- Knee(With HYESZ taunt for extra salt)
Uair- Wolf
Bair- Jiggs
Dair- Ganon
B- Offense Up
>B- Din's Fire
^B- Shuttle Loop
----GlideA- Pit's Fair
vB- Falco Shine
Hover- Peach
Fthrow-
Uthrow- Kirby
Dthrow- Snake
Bthrow- Ness
Get Up Attack-
Ledge Attack-
Final Smash- Super Sonic

Taunt 1 - Hiiiiiiii!!!
Taunt 2 - Prepare Yourself!
Taunt 3 - Show me your moves!
If there are no objections, we just need an F-Throw, Get Up Attack and Ledge Attack.
 
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Aw yeah son. We got it now.
I still kinda miss Solarbeam. But Offense Upsmash is too good to pass up.
Idea: Neutral B acts as both of them. You charge Offense Up, and can release it as either a Solar Beam or use it for your Smash Attacks! And since using it for your Smashes doesn't use up the charge as long as you connect... :D
 
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