M.K
Level 55


20 bucks says they are Rotom transformations, seeing as the little guy hasn't really been given much of a backstory at all....
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If leaflets are given out with Platinum, wouldn't that be a future Pokemon? As in, wouldn't appear in Platinum?Serebii said:It is said that leaflets given with Pokémon Platinum will contain clues regarding them...
What is the cat that strangles itself?!Ooh, you all sound so tough, dissing the 4th gen...
This gen is greatly underrated, in my opinion. People didn't (don't) like the new Pokemon because... They weren't (aren't) willing to. Sure, Glameow may be a bit unoriginal, but what about the awsome ones? We got a balloon who drags children to Hell, we got a partially-braindead beaver Pokemon (Which is awsome, if you didn't know), a cat that strangles itself to make it look bigger, a penguin/suit-of-armor hybrid, and many others.
And whoever said that 'Arceus looks like a robot goat ballerina' is right. And that is freakin' amazing! What did you want, some kind of muscly, humanoid, cliched god? No, a god wouldn't look like that. A god would look like the near-formless monstosity Gamefreak gave us.
Arceus just radiates originallity, unlike certain other legendaries (*cough*MewMewtwoArticunoHo-OhMoltresZapdosetc.*cough*). So I bend my to you, O mighty PokeGod, and as I gaze upon your mighty golden ring-thing, I wish bestowed the First gen with more awsomeness than just Charizard, Lickitung, and the few other Chosen Ones. Shay'men.
...What was the topic, again?
The concept of Arceus is awesome, but I'm not fond of its design. I would hate the big Godly muscular looking Pokemon to be honest. I'd rather Arceus be a very natural looking Godly stag with large antlers, and flowing fur, trailing behind it. I understand that the concept of 4th Gen is kind of that futuristic space thing, and that's reflected in Team Galactic, Palkia, Dialga, Giratina, Cresselia, Darkrai, and Arceus (and even the Lake Trio). They were designed under that concept, and while I fully respect it, I just don't like it. It doesn't feel natural enough, and that's the field that I explore and appreciate the most; that which feels like it draws so much more from our natural world.Ooh, you all sound so tough, dissing the 4th gen...
This gen is greatly underrated, in my opinion. People didn't (don't) like the new Pokemon because... They weren't (aren't) willing to. Sure, Glameow may be a bit unoriginal, but what about the awsome ones? We got a balloon who drags children to Hell, we got a partially-braindead beaver Pokemon (Which is awsome, if you didn't know), a cat that strangles itself to make it look bigger, a penguin/suit-of-armor hybrid, and many others.
And whoever said that 'Arceus looks like a robot goat ballerina' is right. And that is freakin' amazing! What did you want, some kind of muscly, humanoid, cliched god? No, a god wouldn't look like that. A god would look like the near-formless monstosity Gamefreak gave us.
Arceus just radiates originallity, unlike certain other legendaries (*cough*MewMewtwoArticunoHo-OhMoltresZapdosetc.*cough*). So I bend my to you, O mighty PokeGod, and as I gaze upon your mighty golden ring-thing, I wish bestowed the First gen with more awsomeness than just Charizard, Lickitung, and the few other Chosen Ones. Shay'men.
...What was the topic, again?
The concept of Arceus is awesome, but I'm not fond of its design.
I was perfectly willing to like the Pokemon, I didn't come into it with a close-minded attitude at all. But aside from Piplup and family, Bidoof and family, Pachirisu, and Shaymin (GROUND FORM ONLY), I find the Pokemon to be either not creative enough or too..."creative". Most of the pre-evolutions/evolutions are just trying really hard to shell out another Pokemon in that line, and it shows. Especially so with Leafeon and Glaceon -- not only are they nearly identical in their basic form (without extra grassy/icy features applied) but they don't even feel like evolutions to previous Pokemon. Most of the fourth generation evolutions do that, and those that do feel like evolutions are just stupid, like Lickilicky and Electivire.Ooh, you all sound so tough, dissing the 4th gen...
This gen is greatly underrated, in my opinion. People didn't (don't) like the new Pokemon because... They weren't (aren't) willing to. Sure, Glameow may be a bit unoriginal, but what about the awsome ones? We got a balloon who drags children to Hell, we got a partially-braindead beaver Pokemon (Which is awsome, if you didn't know), a cat that strangles itself to make it look bigger, a penguin/suit-of-armor hybrid, and many others.
And whoever said that 'Arceus looks like a robot goat ballerina' is right. And that is freakin' amazing! What did you want, some kind of muscly, humanoid, cliched god? No, a god wouldn't look like that. A god would look like the near-formless monstosity Gamefreak gave us.
Arceus just radiates originallity, unlike certain other legendaries (*cough*MewMewtwoArticunoHo-OhMoltresZapdosetc.*cough*). So I bend my to you, O mighty PokeGod, and as I gaze upon your mighty golden ring-thing, I wish bestowed the First gen with more awsomeness than just Charizard, Lickitung, and the few other Chosen Ones. Shay'men.
...What was the topic, again?
Yeah, I'm with you on Torterra. I mean, as awesome as that tree on his back is (that concept is really cool to me, I'm not sure why), it's really the only thing that makes him Grass. His design is pretty poor. That one idea wouldn't have been a bad idea to keep there, just not alone.I think the reason that I, and many others were not satiated with the selection of Pokemon in the 4th Gen is because they seemed to be trying too hard on the Pokemon. For instance (sorry Darkslash) Torterra is totally forced in my opinion. Turtwig and Grotle are pretty neat looking, but Torterra is just a turtle... with a tree and a couple rocks on its back. When a Pokemon is grass ONLY because it has a tree on its back, then it's a very forced concept. You must work to incorporate all of the aspects, which include: base animal, plant, etc, types, size, weight, form, evolutionary stages, location found, etc, etc, etc. You see, with Torterra, if you scrap the tree, it's just a Ground Pokemon. If you were to slap a big rock on it, it would be Rock/Ground. If you were to put a bonfire on its back, it would be Fire/Ground. They could have easily made a turtle that was part plant or something.
Yeah, I've got to agree with you. As much as I do indeed like Pokemon, I feel that it's just... forced anymore. I mean, my best advice to Nintendo is to use the Pokemon they have to make more games, rather than making a ton more. How do they honesly plan to make more Pokemon past the "Poke-God?" How ridiculous that they found the God of Pokemon, yet somehow missed a squirrel with a fishes head (I dunno, grabbing at straws). Don't get my wrong, I still like Pokemon, but what if they made a game with perhaps 10, not necessarily legendary, new Pokemon, in a whole new region? That would certainly be better than 10 trillion new evolutions and babies...;/ I dunno, I guess like you Firus, I'm simply looking for some originality. That's why I liked GSC so much, they were just so different than all the others. There's an idea! A GSC remake! *hint hint Nintendo* ;]I was perfectly willing to like the Pokemon, I didn't come into it with a close-minded attitude at all. But aside from Piplup and family, Bidoof and family, Pachirisu, and Shaymin (GROUND FORM ONLY), I find the Pokemon to be either not creative enough or too..."creative". Most of the pre-evolutions/evolutions are just trying really hard to shell out another Pokemon in that line, and it shows. Especially so with Leafeon and Glaceon -- not only are they nearly identical in their basic form (without extra grassy/icy features applied) but they don't even feel like evolutions to previous Pokemon. Most of the fourth generation evolutions do that, and those that do feel like evolutions are just stupid, like Lickilicky and Electivire.
...Well, okay, there are some good fourth generation Pokemon, but there are still a majority of them that I find stupid. Did we really need two more generic fish, which no one's going to use anyways? Drapion looks like...something, I don't know what, but it's not a good thing. Carnivine is like an attempt at a Victreebell replacement, Buneary and Lopunny just look weird, Spiritomb is the most odd-looking Pokemon ever, I don't even know what the purpose of Chatot is and it looks stupid (music note head? Honestly?), Combee is three honeycombs with three faces and wings...I could keep going, I won't.
Then let's move onto the legendaries. The trio embodies so much of this uncreativity that you seem to be against, not only in their basic design but in the fact that the only big change between the three is their head color and "hair", for lack of a better term, style. Heatran has zero backstory. Regigigas looks like a robot that someone left in the jungle too long and now it has plants growing on it, Cresselia is a blob of...I don't even know WHAT it's a blob of. It's just so ugly. Manaphy is...weird-looking and doesn't carry on the Mew line well at all, plus it can breed. Darkrai is pretty stupid, Failed Potato looks like a failed attempt at an Eeveelution that fell in the garbage, and...let's move on to Arceus.
No one asked for a human God of Pokemon, quite the contrary, I don't think anyone would want that. But Arceus looks like a deformed goat, honestly, and that's not really a good thing, at least not in Arceus's case. There are other Pokemon that I think would hold the position of Pokemon God better, honestly, like Mewtwo (I know you find him uncreative but I think Mewtwo's awesome, always will be the most awesome legendary), although his back story is much better than him being a Pokemon God.
I think a very outlandish Pokemon would be a good Pokemon God, I just don't think that they got the design right with Arceus.
What, so Bulbasaur doesn't count? I mean, if you took away the bulb, he'd be a Poison frog. If you were to put a bonfire on his back, he'd be a Poison/Fire. Same goes for Chicorita (a dinosaur with a few leafs) and it's evos, Treeco and the gang, Tropius, and many others I just can't seem to remember right now.I think the reason that I, and many others were not satiated with the selection of Pokemon in the 4th Gen is because they seemed to be trying too hard on the Pokemon. For instance (sorry Darkslash) Torterra is totally forced in my opinion. Turtwig and Grotle are pretty neat looking, but Torterra is just a turtle... with a tree and a couple rocks on its back. When a Pokemon is grass ONLY because it has a tree on its back, then it's a very forced concept. You must work to incorporate all of the aspects, which include: base animal, plant, etc, types, size, weight, form, evolutionary stages, location found, etc, etc, etc. You see, with Torterra, if you scrap the tree, it's just a Ground Pokemon. If you were to slap a big rock on it, it would be Rock/Ground. If you were to put a bonfire on its back, it would be Fire/Ground. They could have easily made a turtle that was part plant or something.
Your argument makes sense. I don't hate all the pokemon in the 4th gen, just some.What, so Bulbasaur doesn't count? I mean, if you took away the bulb, he'd be a Poison frog. If you were to put a bonfire on his back, he'd be a Poison/Fire. Same goes for Chicorita (a dinosaur with a few leafs) and it's evos, Treeco and the gang, Tropius, and many others I just can't seem to remember right now.
Infact, the only reason many Pokemon are the type they are is because of a tree sticking out of them or something like that. If Typhlosion didn't have a mane of fire, there's no way in HELL that thing would be a fire type. Without the coloring, would Murkrow still be a Dark-type? Without the lightning-bolt tail, would Pikachu still have reason to be Electric.
I find your logic flawed here, Spire, because so many other, older Pokemon follow that rule.
As a Drapion user, it offends me that you think it's not good, when Poison/Dark is a great combo b/c ground is its ONLY weakness and great ATK and SPD....Well, okay, there are some good fourth generation Pokemon, but there are still a majority of them that I find stupid. Did we really need two more generic fish, which no one's going to use anyways? Drapion looks like...something, I don't know what, but it's not a good thing. Carnivine is like an attempt at a Victreebell replacement, Buneary and Lopunny just look weird, Spiritomb is the most odd-looking Pokemon ever, I don't even know what the purpose of Chatot is and it looks stupid (music note head? Honestly?), Combee is three honeycombs with three faces and wings...I could keep going, I won't.
Oh, I know Nintendo made a pokemon god inorder to get atheist kids to be monotheistic or polytheistic. It makes perfect sence.Your argument makes sense. I don't hate all the pokemon in the 4th gen, just some.
I hate arceus because he's meant to be a god of pokemon and seems like a mewtwo replacement (though this argument may seem flawed, it's my feeling for a pokegod that bothers me).
The design of the pokemon doesn't matter as long as the poke isn't displayed in a goofy silly way when it could have looked awesome.
Turtwig isn't a bird?Oh, I know Nintendo made a pokemon god inorder to get atheist kids to be monotheistic or polytheistic. It makes perfect sence.
Zook, you have a good point about the sticks on the head of a pokemon automatically make it grass. but if it wasn't for that logic kids (sadly) wouldn't undestand their reasoning, currently they probably don't know why Charmander is called charmander (Char+Salamander=Charmander), or why even Haunter is called Haunter. but that is the problem with (especailly now) TV and little Einsteins happy kids. So your argument is valid, bu if it weren't for those stick on the head kids would think that turtwig was bird