[Nesu] It's so deserted here I could find Criminal Caterpillars. (Post here if you're cool)

[Asa]

Fellow Nessers?

ness is my low-tier love

i mained him before wario, still pretty good now (imo a little underneath kennypu)

i'll use him in doubles if i get paired with my zss partner

nestles?

 

[Yink]

The only big thing I'm going to that's big is MLG Dallas.

Sorry bro

 

[AvariceX]

I haven't decided between Genesis 2, Apex 2011, or Sun Rise Tourney yet, but will likely be going to one (and only one).

Alex Strife made Apex 2010 amazing but Genesis 2 would be cool since I missed Genesis 1 and it would be interesting to experience a DBR tourney. Sun Rise Tourney is just so much cooler for so many obvious reasons, but also so much more expensive :X

 

[Asa]

come to genesis

i think kenny will be coming too


and where is sunrise?

 

[*Tyson*]

Genesis was mad legit. One of my favorite experiences ever.

 

[DMG]

For real. Genesis was legendary alone for the Melee Hype there; seeing Mango vs Armada in person was LEGIT.

 

[PSI.kick]

Maybe a new person is nesessary for your entertainment. someone like, say, i dunno...

me? O.o

 

[Yink]

Welcome to the board PSI, nice to see you!

 

[_clinton]

Hi people, it is me; your sex symbol for this board ^_^

 

[Dajayman]

Is anyone else confused about the thread title?

 

[Yink]

Is anyone else confused about the thread title?

I'm not a mod anymore, so it was a parting farewell. Neon hasn't changed it to something interesting yet. ^^;

@Clinton: O_o;

 

[Dajayman]

Neon sucks at title changing.

 

[M]

Any Nessers played Pokemon Black and White yet? This generation is amazingggg.

 

[milesg2g]

The tittle of this thread makes me scared to look in here. lol

 

[Yink]

Any Nessers played Pokemon Black and White yet? This generation is amazingggg.

The Pokemon look really lame. Sorry man. I'll stick to just loving Gen 1/2.

The tittle of this thread makes me scared to look in here. lol

I think it's fitting lol.

 

[AvariceX]

and where is sunrise?

It is, appropriately in Japan.

Also Apex 2011 would be by far the cheapest of the nationals next year for me to attend as it is the only one I wouldn't need to fly to.

 

[Dajayman]

What a goofy title.

 

[milesg2g]

It is pretty fitting though lol

 

[M]

The Pokemon look really lame. Sorry man. I'll stick to just loving Gen 1/2.

 

[Eagleye893]

Yeah, dunsparce sucks...

Also stantler.

 

[A2ZOMG]

I told ViceGrip to practice this, and I was thinking I might as well share this trick to everyone else here since I'm PRETTY CERTAIN everyone will appreciate the benefits of this trick once they learn to do it consistently.

Learn to buffer frame perfect SH U-airs. Especially, I suggest learning how to do these out of shield.

This is a universal option that is actually very useful for every character in the game (although Yoshi of course won't be doing these out of shield), but is very rarely used for some odd reason. Apparently most people don't seem to know how to do this efficiently without Up-smashing from what I understand, but it's quite simple. You just hold Up lightly, and then input Jump+attack. This will let you buffer frame perfect U-airs that are close to the ground. If you do it too lightly, you might N-air out of shield. Too much, you get the aforementioned Up-smash.

I would like to hear the experiences of other Ness users who implement this, but I will immediately suggest that U-air out of shield is a very good anti-air option when KOing is what you need to do. Probably the most popular way to avoid grabs is by well, being in the air, so for Ness players who need an extra out of shield option for killing I believe should find this invaluable. Having more ways to punish ambiguous bad spacing besides N-airing is probably very useful to consider.

 

[*Tyson*]

I have a silly question. I was going to buy the Collectors Edition of FF14. However i did come across the UK version of it, and it looked better and had a little bit more in it.

I guess my main question is, if i were to get a UK version instead would it be any different? I suppose my biggest concern would be if it was in English or not.

 

[Neon Ness]

However i did come across the UK version

I suppose my biggest concern would be if it was in English or not.

I think it'll be fine.

 

[*Tyson*]

Region specific stuff sucks.

Stuck with the U.S. Thanks anyway Neon. =)

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Everytime I see Tyson post it makes me think of 50 Tyson

 

[Neon Ness]

Every time I see Glyph post, I miss the old days when he was but a simple hyperchicken.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Those were simpler times, for a simpler world...

 

[*Tyson*]

Glyph, it's cause i was.....Born to be a ball player, you know what i'm sayin....

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

You know, I hear you walk like a ball playa, talk like a ball playa, a true gangsta...

 

[AvariceX]

lol @ A2Z's post being completely ignored XD. That's actually pretty cool A2Z, I'll have to try it out sometime but it's gonna be hard to break the habit of nair/usmash oos :X. Should probably post it in the community Ness guide or somewhere we actually talk about the game itself if you haven't already.

 

[Neon Ness]

The thing about uair OOS is on startup it has range ( a lot of range lol) behind Ness but not in front, whereas nair OOS covers both sides. I think nair even has faster startup. So that might be why you don't see Nesses using it often, not necessarily because they don't know how.

I can see it being helpful against people spacing your shield from behind (don't want to get shieldgrabbed) in the air. Of course it will be harder to pull off against someone whose shield pressure aerials flat out trump Ness' uair. For instance I'd think this would be hard to pull off against an MK dairing your shield. :\ Could be wrong though.

 

[Placebo Effect]

D***, your thumb story sounds f***ed up...

It's not as bad as it sounds, I might have overexaggerated a bit on how it acts but it can get rather annoying.

 

[AvariceX]

The thing about uair OOS is on startup it has range ( a lot of range lol) behind Ness but not in front, whereas nair OOS covers both sides. I think nair even has faster startup. So that might be why you don't see Nesses using it often, not necessarily because they don't know how.

I can see it being helpful against people spacing your shield from behind (don't want to get shieldgrabbed) in the air. Of course it will be harder to pull off against someone whose shield pressure aerials flat out trump Ness' uair. For instance I'd think this would be hard to pull off against an MK dairing your shield. :\ Could be wrong though.

Nair definitely starts up faster than uair, but at kill %'s if you have an opening then uair oos would definitely be the way to go since nair is usually quite stale by then. Amusingly enough I could see this being really useful in the ditto against another Ness pressuring your shield with dair and then landing behind you.

 

[Dajayman]

Uair is a bad sh aerial to wiff though, since it has terrible air end lag. You have to land after a sh uair. And yeah, it's very hard to get a frame perfect immediate sh uair because you can instead jump-cancel usmash. So it's usually hard to land a uair on a grounded foe, making uair not that useful oos, unlike nair.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Yes I know U-air has terrible air ending lag, but for Ness, it is still a quick starting KO option that can be used OOS and spaced after contact. It's technically safer than grabbing, which basically always leaves you next to your opponent on whiff.

I'm not suggesting this is something you're going to be using a lot. But I am suggesting that knowing how to use this correctly in real matches can and will make a very useful difference when you need to score KOs.

And I guess I'll start hyping this in a different thread lol?

 

[milesg2g]

Question what do you guys do to Yoshi's?

 

[Dajayman]

I know sh uair is a decent oos option. I do use it from time to time, usually when an opponent hits my shield with an aerial and they end up above me. It's just that smart people generally don't do that sort of risky stuff at 120% when Ness' uair can start killing that low on the ground.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Most people try to deliberately avoid Ness's throws through tight aerial spacing. I think with that in mind, it would be good to know buffered SH U-air oos is a good option.

 

[Yink]

Question what do you guys do to Yoshi's?

I play a Yoshi all the time. I try to force them offstage.

Don't stand too far away, the Egg Toss is so laggy that if you're close enough you can just grab Yoshi out of it (or reflect it with Bat). Don't get caught in grabs and watch the direction Yoshi's facing all the time. Yes, there's a chain grab on both Ness and Lucas...and then a grab release > usmash...though, Ness can get out of it sometimes, dunno if Lucas can.

Punish Yoshi's shield, it sucks and abuse his laggy attacks. Also, if you can try to footstool, do it. Watch out for Egg shenanigans and Egg Lay.

 

[Eagleye893]

Random: what pokemon HASN'T ash ketchum seen in the anime?