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Regarding wolf vs. falcon:imo
its very situational. character-wise.
for instance, wolf vs. c. falcon
wolf already has a reflector, so why pick it up? also, what good is it against c.falcon, or ganon, dk, marth, ike ect... who don't have a projectile?
also, it will most likely only affect those who don't know what it does, and when they DO find out what it does, how easy is it going to be for them to be tricked by it again, ya know?
it really gets on my nerves when the mother series is pissed on. there are plenty of other interesting potential items in the game.
the franklin badge was fun but it was something I only used 1 or 2 times before I stopped using it altogether.
ok good points there.Regarding wolf vs. falcon:
Wolf gains an advantage from having the franklin badge because it acts as an automatic reflector he doesnt have to use. When he uses his downB he must be using downB but with the badge he can do anything and still reflect. Another simple reason for picking it up is to keep your opponent from getting it. Also, Captain Falcon has at least the same projectiles everyone else has: Items.
Regarding the effectiveness of the badge and fooling people:
The "effect" of the badge is not necessarily to make projectiles fly back at people and hurt them. That is AN effect, but the more prominent effect is that it stops people from throwing projectiles at you. It effectively removes any projectile game your opponents have for its duration. <---That is a strong effect.
There are some situations where the frankline badge is pretty much useless(such as marth vs. marth and the badge is the only item turned on), but none of those situations are what you described above.
ness's recovery seems to be his biggest issue. I wonder what it'd be like if his PKT2 acted like a ganon/c/falcon grab instead of a normal hit..Man I hope they fix Ness in Smash U/3DS, I never understood why he becomes helpless after doing PK Flash in the air.
On the subject of PK Thunder, why not give it a little more oomph, like raising its damage or knockback to make it a bit more dangerous to intercept, or maybe ( and this is probably a dumb idea) make it like C. Falcon's up-B, with a PKT1 that's used in the air doesn't make Ness helpless if it hits an opponent.
Its true that the fox/wolf reflectors are very fast, but the franklin badge turns wolf from a character with one reflector that pretty much just reflects and also has a weak, low-range attack attached to it to a character with a reflector on all of his attacks(and even his non-attacks).ok good points there.
regarding wolf, his reflector isn't that hard to use, and its better than the badge since it makes projectiles fly back at faster speeds anyway. (and most reflectors have VERY little start-up time :| )
ive just never felt challenged by the item when an opponent has it on.
opinionated yes. but im a monster on the battlefield. franklin badges give me one more reason to punch some guy close up in the face!
id rather have the ruler or protractor from earthbound as items, which make you skip your turn. a useless item, but hey... at least you used a ruler
What kind of speed? Jump speed? fall speed? horizontal aerial speed? run speed? attack speed? roll speed? all of the above?I think the reason ness was slower than lucas was because lucas actually had the option to run, while ness could only walk at his default speed (unless he ate a skip sandwich).
game reference I guess, but more speed for Ness wouldn't hurt.
run speed in particular.What kind of speed? Jump speed? fall speed? horizontal aerial speed? run speed? attack speed? roll speed? all of the above?
And you may be right about Ness being "slower" than Lucas a nod to the Mother games. In Earthbound, Ness is the best at everything....except speed where he is the worst.
I would never ask for a strong move to become fast and unpunishable.A slow move will be punishable...that's just how slow moves work. I think PK Flash has its utility as an edgeguard(which could use a bit of improving perhaps) since you can take the time to use a slow move while your opponent is off stage. What I think does need changing is uncharged pk flash. Currently the only reason to use uncharged pk flash is because you changed your mind about using charged pk flasha nd you wanna stop using pk flash all together. If uncharged pk flash were made a little faster and a little larger then it could have use as an anti-air attack.
I'm not sure, but maybe because you can name the move in earthbound....for example: PSI Cyndi LauperEver since I played Earthbound [which is after I played Smash 64 and Melee] I always wondered why Ness never had his signature PK Rockin, As a move.
I was totally talking about PK Flash in Melee.
maybe, then again you can name ness, ness's party members, his favorite food, and in this case, his favorite "thing" anything you want. even if you choose the "don't care" option, theres a pool of default names in pulls from.I'm not sure, but maybe because you can name the move in earthbound....for example: PSI Cyndi Lauper
Well, tomorrow is Friday, and Olimar was revealed on a Friday too. I don't think that means anything special, but it certainly gives people a burst of information and something to talk about over the weekend if a character is revealed at the end of the working days.Anyone think Ness will be revealed soon due to the eshop release of Earthbound?
I wouldn't bet on it, but its a possibility. it'd be nice to have more people play Mother 2. the More Mother fans the better! that way, ness won't be the character that they don't know **** about again... XDAnyone think Ness will be revealed soon due to the eshop release of Earthbound?
I wish, but since it isn't a Japanese release I doubt Sakurai might even know of it.Anyone think Ness will be revealed soon due to the eshop release of Earthbound?
what do you mean? Earthbound was released in japan as Mother 2 . or do you mean the virtual console release already being in japan and this release being in the Americas?I wish, but since it isn't a Japanese release I doubt Sakurai might even know of it.
Yeah, I don't think he'd time Ness' announcement with the release of Earthbound now when it has been out in Japan for quite a while. As I said, I doubt he might even know that it's being released over here right now and how big of a deal it is, they've had Mother 2 for quite a while now.what do you mean? Earthbound was released in japan as Mother 2 . or do you mean the virtual console release already being in japan and this release being in the Americas?
+Just give Ness a new up-B and get rid of the extra release lag and he's good.
Hey its an improvement from the number 1 worst move in Melee aka Ness' downsmashyo-yo is sooo weak!
they definitely did improve it. IMMENSELY!Hey its an improvement from the number 1 worst move in Melee aka Ness' downsmash
your avatar gets me EVERY time XDI think that Ness should maybe have a Slingshot as one of his moves? and that he should hold a Teddy Bear as his shield animation. I also think PSI Rockin' should be one of his moves, maybe to replace PSI Fire? Also I think that PSI Thunder should be buffed to make the projectile not destroyable (IE You cannot use an ice shot to stop it).
well if they included Paula (doubt they would) then I think she should have it as when you rescue her, she is seen with one and If I recall correctly, she has one in her room?your avatar gets me EVERY time XD
Villager ironically already beat ness to the slingshot.
Plush bear wouldn't fit his character, and he actually DOES have a natural shield unlike most characters in the game now that I think of it. The Plush bear would make a NICE item though! it could sometimes take hits for you until the opponent smashes it "into a pile a fluff".
PSI fire (while not one of his actual moves) is one of his staple smash bros moves, i believe it'll make a return. Psi Rockin however can (and should) replace his Final smash.
peach already has a pink dress and a frying pan. so paula would be a peach clonewell if they included Paula (doubt they would) then I think she should have it as when you rescue her, she is seen with one and If I recall correctly, she has one in her room?
me too. i just want to see Ness's Rosy cheeks in glorious HD EmbarrassI hope Ness is revealed soon, I just want to get the veteran's over with for reveal, so I can expect the new characters to come closer to the game's launch.
Someone wants to get slapped.peach already has a pink dress and a frying pan. so paula would be a peach clone
peaches A-combo is already a series of slapsSomeone wants to get slapped.
But in all seriousness, Sakurai knows the community would have a duck if he tried to cut Ness. Same as they will flip if he drops Mewtwo after semi-confirming him. So I'm not all that concerned. He may have dropped the ball with brawl a bit, but he's no fool. And Nintendo values fanservice above all else.(Now if we can only get some more support for Geno...)
As far as his moveset is concerned, I REALLY hope it stays identical. Obviously speed, power, priority, and hitstun numbers are going to change as they do for every iteration. So arguing over them feels like a somewhat moot point, as any that were even the slightest problem in melee will be thrown under a microscope(and probably were long ago). Nothing is wrong with the moves in and of themselves, just slightly(not really) subpar in their implementation last time around(melee, brawl doesn't exist for me). If people don't like PKT, they can honestly just get out. That is Ness' defining characteristic. If you want a generic warp back to the platform, there's a dozen plus other characters with such recoveries. It's a high risk high reward move that may not be the best 'recovery' but is a very solid 'move.' And I really can't take seriously anyone who tries to argue with a straight face that his ^B should be Psi Teleport.