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Ness Video Thread: under new management

Neon Ness

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Awesome matches, Shaky. Your Ness gets scarier every time I see.

So much PKT2/dair insanity.
 
ViceGrip

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These are matches of my modern day Ness style! Now you can all see it yay. I just saw these get uploaded to youtube and I haven't watched em yet, for all I know I get *****. I just want you guys to see them and give any feedback you may have. Keep in mind that these are wifi (so allow for typical wifi mistakes) but they still should show mainly how i play. What i've added since these videos is pk thunder stuff coming back to the edge ( inspired by Bart/Shaky) as well as better jab locks. These vids are from January 2010.

Match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdijNGL20DI

Match 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K052B8T2hQ0

Match 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7_lzdFR0D8

Match 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nAoviXRIwQ
 
_clinton

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Match 2 was awesome...197% ^_^

Man I love Nair ^_^

Plus Nair to Uair is a hell of a lot easier to do than Bair to Uair at least

(ever get any use out of Nair to Fair by any chance?)
 
ViceGrip

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Thanks Clinton! I did watch the matches after posting em and for some reason nair to fair wasn't working in those matches. yea, nair to fair leads to jab/ftilt (risky, can sometimes be sheilded) dtilt or grab. I tend to nair>fair right before landing> jab. So nair>fair has uses for sure, I just tend to use it less than all the other double ariel shuffle options for some reason.
 
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Nair is awesome tier, you can't not love it.

Nice jab locking you got going there. It never occurred to me what a great setup dair is for that.
 
Neon Ness

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Did anyone else notice that at 4:07 of match 2 Ness' jab clanked with Pikachu's fsmash?

That was... yeah. Never seen that before. Will keep in mind.

Good matches all around.
 
Shaky

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From a tournament 3 weeks ago that I got 3rd in:

Shaky (Ness) vs Esam (Pikachu/Diddy)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml32wxVGma0

4th Impact (Shaky + Nick Riddle) vs MVDSam (MVD + Esam)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9NcWA-sLs

UPDATE: 4th Impact (Shaky + Nick Riddle) vs ChazBrik (Seibrik + Chaz) Winner's Finals

1,2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CFyeMiHWwA
3,4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2P3n13F1eU
5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyl4IwljgZ0


UPDATE 2 : 4th Impact (Shaky + Nick Riddle) vs ChazBrik (Seibrik + Chaz) Grand Finals

1,2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OQo_pv0-YU
3,4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siW7JnGXRH8
5:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea063GuO5DI
 
Meian

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Oh boy my bad for lack of update I'll be sure to start by tomorrow. School been crazy as always XD
 
Eagleye893

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vice, at 4:11 of your second match, good implementing the oddity of releasing magnet to grab the ledge.....

now use it more! XP


shaky....

first vid:
0:44, you should've been retreating to ledge.... the thunderjolt would've barely made it and you would've been safely out of range from pika.... also, retreating could have put a small amount of space between pika's dash and yourself....
that first vid was ****..... keep up the good work there!

more to come....
 
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Shaky, I just watched your videos, you're too dang good. I wish I was that awesome with Ness. Or with anyone.
 
Eagleye893

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I completely forgot that metroid uploaded these....

B+ btw....

doubles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAsrr_QlapI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2RpJxpyFbU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv_X2XcNOCI
(I'll throw my kirby vids in as well.... just for lolz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR8A11t4LYw&feature=PlayList&p=4EF1ED1C420AB233&index=5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flx9YCvrh2M&feature=PlayList&p=4EF1ED1C420AB233&index=6 )

Singles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AHr0UeDMik&feature=PlayList&p=4EF1ED1C420AB233&index=3
(I didn't know how to counter a B+ ike at all... :( i got rocked)

(ness gets destroyed offstage by ike in B+, and so many epic fails)

just so you know, i don't often play +
 
Meian

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Whew, so many great videos I went through the past few hours! Front page is updated with everyone's videos to date, sorry about the long wait...
 
Shaky

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Videos from the tournament I got 1st/2nd in:

Shaky (Ness) vs Seibrik (DDD/MK) Loser's Finals

1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ZND6RWRss&feature=related
2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtB35UE9B18&feature=related
3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkOXtuTKbOI&feature=related
4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2KPI6hesZk&feature=sub
5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwoXndRQTrU&feature=related

4th Impact (Shaky + Nick Riddle) vs. ChazBrick (Seibrik + Chaz) Grand Finals

1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMA_9Rlr1yw
3:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnIN70f5ygA
 
Eagleye893

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@shaky:

1st match: great job!!! near the end, i was really waiting for a utilt or ftilt when seibrik was above 130, but i didn't see it..... it probably wasn't safe enough, considering he dodged everything, but you could've spotdodged, or perfect shielded something to utilt.....

definitely more to come.... but so far really good...

EDIT:

2nd match: good job overall.... almost made a comeback, but the first two early kills are what got you...

3rd: really good job!!! you easily avoided all the grab release stuff, you spaced super well, and everything!!! I thought you would do nearly everything that happened.....

(maybe the only reasons that I do terribly in tournaments is because I'm completely plagued by the worst possible luck.... and controller failure.....)

4th: 0:50 is the crappiest luck ever.... started to make a comeback, but he wouldn't die.....

5th: that klapptrap really helped.... :) good choice of stage! great job keeping the lead the entire way and forcing the death at the end....

I need to learn from you!!! or at least... play you so I can see what i'm doing wrong....
 
Joker490Frozen

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Here's some friendly matches between Yink and I from November I should put some new ones once I get my capture card working right >.<

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R1

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R2

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R3(Dancing to the beat oh yeah :colorful:)

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R4(In between the match we found out how to walk the dog XD)

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R5

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R6

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R7

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R8
 
gantrain05

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Joker490Frozen said:
Here's some friendly matches between Yink and I from November I should put some new ones once I get my capture card working right >.<

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R1

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R2

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R3(Dancing to the beat oh yeah :colorful:)

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R4(In between the match we found out how to walk the dog XD)

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R5

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R6

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R7

Joker(Enzo Ness) Vs Yink(Chiaotzu Ness) R8
Click to expand...
joker u never record any friendlies of us! but we never play any friendlies which we should more often.
 
Bartolon

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^ Gonna watch this yesz

Over a few weeks I will upload matches from Mr.R vs me (y)

(Gonna edit this for Vice, because I am nice ;D)

hmm bad quality though =o
But nice matches :)
 
Eagleye893

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good matches vice!

a couple of things though:

Magnet was used liberally (good!), but not always timed perfectly. You missed absorbing one thunder from pika and a couple of lasers near the end of the last match that (theoretically) should have been yours... maybe start a little bit earlier....

good teaming option with the dsmash healing! great usage of that!

I'm serious about this: dtilt is broken if you know how to place it perfectly. The trip is great for every option in any situation. "But how should I use it?" asks the audience? Well (to me) it's a little simple: hit with two quick dtilts and switch to another option almost immediately. "WHY ONLY 2?!?!? I wanna do lots of damage!" well, the two leads into many different options that are almost all safe. I use this for going after someone with their shield up. Lets say you get into dtilt range by being careful enough and approaching as you are supposed to. If you are behind them, they are basically destroyed by this... the two hits ensure that they react, since they assume that you are going to do more (if not, they spotdodge, or attempt to grab, which in this case isn't gonna work. The best option is to jump out and run away, but people seem to not do that and think they can attack you or get you into hurting yourself). If you use this technique too often your opponent will catch on, which is why i switch it up a lot. Mostly I just go 1 dtilt randomly when I force my opponent to approach me, which i can normally trip 75% of the time... BACK TO THE dtilt STRATEGY!!! on someone with a shield up, you get off the dtilts and you now have several options to switch to: Grab, Dashgrab, jab combo, usmash, run away, nair, more dtilt (not recommended) or spotdodge/roll/jump back, OR FH back PKfire towards them. The common reaction to someone who is being hit by this is to grab. In that case, you either continue a dtilt with really good timing to prevent them from grabbing you, then proceed with the other options (only 1 dtilt is needed and recommended for hitting). If the person's grab is too quick, then just spotdodge immediately after the dtilts. You should time perfectly and be able to use either dtilt, jab combo, or grab after having spotdodged the grab. In my usage of it on my friends, it nearly never fails (my friend plays marth and often goes with the GR gheys...). NOW what if the opponent spotdodges? You are given the disadvantage if you try to grab and dtilting one or two times past doesn't work.... SO DTILT CONTINUOUSLY!!! you get a hit at least after the spotdodge gets finished and AS SOON AS THAT ONE DTILT HITS, get a grab or something else off. They try to react with something else, but it requires extremely strict timing or just spamming something to get out. In the case that your opponent is able to hit you sooner than you can get them with something after that one extra dtilt past the spotdodge, just grab them out of the spotdodge. WHAT IF THEY JAB?!?!? Well, with several characters, the jab will beat out the dtilt in speed and thus leave you to receive damage, which is why i use so few dtilts (1-2, rarely 2): they have nearly no time to react unless they read your mind or you are predictable with it. If you do it properly, they can't get off a jab in time, so all you have to do is grab them after the dtilt. If they run away, you're getting the better of the stuff... it helps you out...

^dtilt is all about mindgames, thus why I use it so well against my friends. PSImag mindgames are awesome, and so are dtilt. The fact that we were playing on an HD TV might have been a factor in why the stuff was working as well as it did, but if it was on a regular TV I would be even better off... I could react much quicker without having to wait and see what my opponent does to react.

^^reason why i bring this up is because there were several times in which the opponent landed near you and you could have dtilted-->trip or dtilt to something else, but you missed it. by landing, i mean airdodge into ground. a couple of other ways in which people land can be countered to allow easy usage of dtilt, but it takes much more explanation than what i wrote, which is already a ton...

OTHERWISE, GREAT JOB VICE!!!
 
Shaky

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Shaky + NickRiddle and Vicegrip + Warpstatus in the Ness + ZSS bandwagon!

Soon enough all Ness boarders will see the how amazing that team is :)

Any suggestions for Ness + ZSS are appreciated-especially in a 2v2 scenario (as opposed to 2v1)... (Eagleye *cough* suggestions *cough*)
 
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2v2 scenario?!?!?

..... I got nothing! I never play 2v2, so all i would give you is theory and not practical... XP
 
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@shaky:

1st: WAVEBOUNCE THE MAGNET AT THE END!!! ITS NECESSARY!!! YOU MUST BE ON THE LEDGE!!!!
loljk

really good, a bit of luck though.... great pkt stalling skillz! good overall fighting! just the second stock off him was.... :(

You may need to get some better nanner control, but it seems you have it pretty well. I recommend to always be in the air when throwing the nanner (DJC or just in the air), but switching it up is okay.

2nd: @2:31, only one dtilt could have gotten you a grab or shieldgrab...

REALLY GOOD MINDGAME AT THE END!!! HOLY ****!!

Great job overall. just a couple of things i would've done differently.
 
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Thanks for the extensive explanation of using dtilt eagle, i need to use dtilt in my game for sure. I like the sheild pressure idea you have and sometimes i do a dtilt to their sheild and immediately bat if I am in good range- it sometimes works hehe. But yea dtilt behind the sheild is a great idea, very nice pressure. I'll try and find more opportunities to use it, however when i use it I just use one dtilt and hope that it trips and immediately bat-guaranteed combo if they trip and sometimes the one dtilt confuses them into spot dodging and they get hit by the bat even if they don't trip!

Eagle I mainly use the magnet for stalling (ghetto shine stall) and spacing in the air (as you may have seen me use when sk92 went up to uair me in the second match and I used magnet to just barely avoid it) but what other uses is there for it? I really want to know, you always say how great magnet is, and I agree, but i really don't know all the uses for it.

Good matches you posted shaky, very good use of the thunder stall, I've incorporated it into my gameplay almost as much as you have now (gotta work on using it even MORE).

Also here I have my matches with sk92 and Z in GOOD quality and with COMMENTARY. The commentary is really quiet though so you'd need to have the speaker near your ear.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWaZv9k-L_s

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI1naT_eF0o


Also i have 2 matches versus DEHF and Tyrant where we get rocked lol if you want to watch those. Actually the second match we could have probably won if i didn't SD, whoops.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6YT5DdnCug

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkI5yIhECR0

edit: thanks for the edit, bart :p
 
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OKAY!! I uploaded two videos for what will end up being part of a PSI Magnet Informational Video.

CHECK EM OUT!!

The most important:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exd_TMedPXo
Reiteration of lag cancel w/ my input:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UIijQT9gsw

Trust me, there is more to come... not even near finished.

I was going to originally just take all the vids that I have and combine them, then upload them to youtube, but my video editing stuff is being stupid.... :(
 
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REALLY?!?!?! THE WAVEBOUNCING THINGS?!?!?? YOU USE THAT OFTEN?!?!?

I've got one more NEW piece of material, but its a bit riskier... i find it really useful though. Also, I'ma put my advice for everything in the vids as well.
 
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This thread is now for posting videos to be critiqued as well as videos of how hax you are


You guys know what would be cool? if some members who know stuff uploaded videos of the nesses who want to be critiqued to youtube with annotations that are comments on the video like "approaching here was a bad call" or "attempt a yo yo spike at times like these"
 
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Wow, Ness's PSI Magnet really that useful? I usually use it to slow myself down from fastfalling. Ness's PSI, unexpectedly, has lots of good stuff @_@

I thought Lucas's PSI magnet does things better.
 
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