Nair OoS?

[nDie]

How do you do it without full hop? Do you use the control stick? Cuz I can't hit the nair low enough if I do it light tapping x. Use Z for nair maybe?

 

[Pr0jecT]

Depends. I can use the control stick and X to nair OOS- then again. I practiced it until i could; Your best bet is to just practice short hopping OOS without the nair first and then working on the nair.

I suspect you do what I did at first, and thats "rush" to the nair and don't focus enough on the shorthop section and press X too hard without fully realizing your problem.

 

[~Tac~]

Personally, I use Y for all my short hops. So what I do is tap Y, and with the bottom part of my thumb, hit A for the nair. If you're not used to Y jumping then it might take some practice.

But that's just the way I do it.

 

[gm jack]

I use Z to hit the nair, and jump with X, but I use X for all jumps, so whatever really.

 

[MrOtter]

- Just worth mentioning. One of my friends taught me that if you really quickly flick the c-stick up whilst you're shielding it does a short hop out of shield.

This is how I tend to do it.

 

[gm jack]

Why not just use any other button or the control stick though? As you can't buffer a SH without insane timing of letting it go, there is no advantage to it over any other method.

 

[MrOtter]

- There's no disadvantage, so what's the problem? I find it easier to flick the c stick up whilst holding the shield.

 

[edgeluca]

I just lightly tap X and slide over to A.

 

[stelzig]

Does it actually hit lower if you shorthop it?

 

[gm jack]

Yes, as you don't accelerate vertically so quickly, the hit box comes out lower down.

 

[edgeluca]

Plus it's quicker and looks cooler :D

 

[Vincent46]

Imho the best way is getting used to short hopping with the control stick. Also comes in handy when playing fox and falco for jump-cancelling the shine as soon as possible. And obviously getting frame perfect aerials out of shield in general.
Also SHDLs with fox if you're into that kind of stuff.

 

[bossa nova ♪]

SH or FH is executed by how long the jump button is pressed, not technically how 'lightly' ya press it

sheik's short hop is particularly difficult because the window for letting go of the jump button is smaller for her than i think any other character, maybe besides fox or something

remember, you just need to hit the jump button and then let go of it as quickly as you can....


that's if you're just trying to SH though, if you're trying to SH Nair OoS, you press the jump button in relation to the shield stun, so you can potentially hold the jump button for longer as long as you let go of it just as the shield stun ends... it's very possible with X+A or Y+A, the secret is just to let go of the jump button when you need to, and that just takes practice.......

 

[Pi]

i use ctrl stick & a
i can't use z for samus sigh
i also can't be holding the shield while ipress a

 

[KirbyKaze]

sh nair oos is generally more applicable than fj

fj leaves you in the air too long and doesn't hit low enough for it to be really useful most of the time

sometimes fj is necessary to hit characters that are using fjs and djs to space moves on your shield

 

[ChivalRuse]

I use X to SH and A to nair. I could see Z working for some people though.

 

[nDie]

I would use Z but my index finger is on R always and there is no way I'm breaking that habit. Thanks for all the advice. I didn't know sh was based on how long it was held, that should help while I'm practicing it.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/user/SoWaMelee?feature=mhum << got 3 vids up here just now, first time recording. It's just friendlies, not playing seriously but if you wouldn't mind throwing out some constructive criticism, that would be great.

 

[gm jack]

I use R to shield primarily as well. However, I have now realised I have got into a habit of switching to L when I am already in shield and looking for a space to Nair out if they are leaving gaps in their presure but spacing to avoid the grab.

 

[Fiz]

I usually use R to shield but I don't know why, it's much easier for me to do it with L.
so I use L + A. should try the CStick though, I had never known that you could short hop with it...

 

[DualCats]

I used to use Z for nairs OoS, but once I started playing Samus, I had to stop. I've used Cstick to jump, actually, but for sh nairs, I always use Y + A. Just what I've gotten accustomed to, I suppose.