Mortar slide?

[kevc]

hey guys whats up with this move?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObVM9tO5cgY&feature=related

im assumin this is in the japanese version, cant it be done in the US one and if yes...how??

 

[Virgilijus]

It involves doing a dash attack and immediately doing an up-smash. I have yet to be able to do it without making contact first, presumably because it slows down the frames and makes it easier to hit accordingly.

 

[kevc]

i see! i get it now n for ppl who dont know heres a better vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvbNohOQ3p8&NR=1

 

[bman in 2288]

Do it with the control stick when you aren't hitting anyone. Less time is wasted, and it's easier to get the timing down.

 

[sweetooth]

ahh... so it can be done when you don't make contact. i haven't been able to do that yet

 

[O D I N]

Glad to see other people are calling this the Mortar Slide. ^ ^

As far as I can tell, it's the first frame ish of the dash attack, followed by a quick u-smash. I'm almost certain it doesn't work for Fsmash.

 

[PsychoMidget]

ahh... so it can be done when you don't make contact. i haven't been able to do that yet

yeah I was unaware of this until about a week ago, it's not that hard once you get the timing down, you just need quick fingers so you can upsmash as soon as you start up your dash attack

 

[Race]

Yeah I was wondering how to do the move myself. . couldnt even pull it off once, lol

 

[Chompskee]

the best way to do the motar slide without any contact is to obviously dash and then flick the c-stick down then up ... what I did to practice this was slowed down the time in training mode in order to properly identify the frames where it needed to be done and steadily increased the game speed until I was able to do it at normal speed

just try dashing and then moving the c-stick up then down at a pretty fast speed

 

[ClarkJables]

i was able to do it twice, but i also used the c stick for the dash which made it easier. however, i am still working on when you have to tilt the c up

 

[Ampleforth]

the best way to do the motar slide without any contact is to obviously dash and then flick the c-stick down then up ... what I did to practice this was slowed down the time in training mode in order to properly identify the frames where it needed to be done and steadily increased the game speed until I was able to do it at normal speed

just try dashing and then moving the c-stick up then down at a pretty fast speed

You said down then up, then up then down; which is it?

 

[Scala]

I can't seem to do it without the c-stick, anyone else having similar problems? The biggest issue for me is that I mapped the c-stick to be special instead of smash because it's simply more useful that way; as such, I can't do this technique...

 

[bman in 2288]

I can't do it with the C-stick unless I hit someone. That's my "problem," although I'm going to say that using the analog stick is much faster, and in my opinion, much more reliable.

 

[abit_rusty]

Hm I had a really tough time doing it with analog, it just felt awkward in transition. I finally got this down to where I can do it all the time, its all about timing it. Just c-stick/analog upsmash, whatever your preference is, the moment you hit with the START of the dash attack. Doesn't work when you hit with any frame after that. (well apparently you can do it without making contact but how to do so is beyond me).

edit: Also, if you want to charge it, hold Z after you c-stick it and release Z when you want to fire. Pretty useful

 

[kevc]

argh i was trying it out and i couldn't get it, can you guys clarify this point for me? to do this move do we just dash then upstick or do a dash attack then up smash?

 

[abit_rusty]

argh i was trying it out and i couldn't get it, can you guys clarify this point for me? to do this move do we just dash then upstick or do a dash attack then up smash?

Well, it's easier if you hit with the dash attack, so try to do so. Then, you have to make sure you c-stick or upsmash (either can work) as soon as the first frame of the dash attack hits (when snake looks like he's curling up for the roll).

 

[Chompskee]

if you want to do it with no contact you first need to dash, while dashing you c-stick down to initiate the dash attack then simultaneously c-stick up for the up smash again you need to do this quickly

 

[.D0c.]

You said down then up, then up then down; which is it?

You want to go down then up. Down c-stick to initiate the dash attack, then up c-stick for the up smash transition.

The biggest issue for me is that I mapped the c-stick to be special instead of smash because it's simply more useful that way; as such, I can't do this technique...

I think the motar slide might be a more vital move for snake rather than his RAR, with regards to changing your c-stick functions. Snakes RAR is kind of slow anyway, but to do this move I would suggest practicing it the regular way as opposed to dropping the motar slide.

edit: Also, if you want to charge it, hold Z after you c-stick it and release Z when you want to fire. Pretty useful

You can also charge with A. I found that a little bit easier. I don't know if you had a chance to try that or not, just a suggestion.

argh i was trying it out and i couldn't get it, can you guys clarify this point for me? to do this move do we just dash then upstick or do a dash attack then up smash?

You want to dash attack with c-stick and up smash with up c-stick. Any c-stick command will cause you to dash attack while you are dashing.

 

[abit_rusty]

You can also charge with A. I found that a little bit easier. I don't know if you had a chance to try that or not, just a suggestion.

Yep, that's how I initially figured it out. I was mashing c-stick Up and Up+A and started charging the mortar. I actually ended up using A more often to charge in the last few matches I just played. My brother was the one who mentioned you could use Z to charge a c-stick attack, just like in melee (which I never knew o.O)

 

[Pubik Vengeance]

Yeah, useful technique, and I have been practicing, pretty tricky though.

 

[Fox4695]

this is murder on your thumb to get it done without hitting anything, so hard to accomplish it at game speed, I can consistently get it at 2/3, so close

 

[Alsark]

I can do it like 95% of the time with contact on 1x speed, and 95% of the time at 2/3 speed with no contact... but I guess that extra 1/3 speed is too much for me. I dunno, I'll live with it just being used under contact circumstances. I'd rather not murder my fingers.

I prefer just using the A button for this... I think it's easier... just run, press A, then up A... you don't even have to do it too quickly (with contact), plus you can charge it. Using C-stick plus Z is harder in my opinion. At higher percentages a non-charged mortar just won't do the trick if you knock the guy pretty high into the air.

 

[kevc]

wait how are you guys practicing this at 1/3 and 2/3 speeds? I go into practice mode and have not done this even once...this things hard to do man!

 

[whiterob]

Anyone else use the A button to do it without hitting the opponent?

I had trouble doing the C-stick down, C-stick up method so I switched. Now it just hit A, then up on the stick in the first few frames of the dash attack. I found this much easier.

Also every time I do it now, I try to hold down the Z button as I flick the C-stick up. That way I have the option to charge if I want.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you do it this way Psycho ******? I know I've seen you charge the mortar after hitting with the dash attack.

 

[bman in 2288]

You can do it with the c-stick too. You just have to use Z to charge it.

And I use the A button to do it, too, since I'd rather not get into the habit of using the C-stick for my dash attacks, and since this way feels better for me.

 

[whiterob]

And I use the A button to do it, too, since I'd rather not get into the habit of using the C-stick for my dash attacks, and since this way feels better for me.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[ClarkJables]

this is a tough attack to learn, i always wind up doing it to late or to early

 

[bman in 2288]

Not really. It's like riding a bicycle. Once you learn it, it's kinda hard to forget.

 

[abit_rusty]

I dash attack with A and flick cstick up with my thumb and then hit and hold A right after >.>

 

[ClarkJables]

i can only do it sporatically at best. there any tricks to make it easier to perform

 

[BAND!T]

guys i think this is the dlx cancel. umm it can also be done with falco and link. well thats what youtube said. but yea.. crazy find.. i will implement this into my game. along with grenade spam+nikitaspam+dsmash spam. bwahahahha. oh.. i forgot the c4

 

[Avulse]

It's pretty easy doing it while making contact... i can't seem to do it without making contact. it's possible right? do i need to use the control stick to do it with making contact?

 

[saud]

Got the hang of it :D

I Dadh Attack by using the A button and C-stick up, for the Mortar. I'm still trying to get used to charging it. This is a variation of the Crombo. It is called the Cromtar Slide.

 

[bman in 2288]

No, I think it's call a Cromdash.

 

[saud]

So...it has more than one codename....that sly Crom!!!

Cromdash sounds good too, it hides the "specialty" of the dash attack. I like it.

 

[CakeMONST3R]

I've down this move before

When you run dash then Up smash
It works

 

[Zero000]

It's pretty easy doing it while making contact... i can't seem to do it without making contact. it's possible right? do i need to use the control stick to do it with making contact?

i still have the same problem, i really think that you need contact. or im just doing it wrong. so far, i've been using this snakedash thing either on opponents (duh) or on objects (boxes and whatnot). the objects add a whole new way of using his dash cancel

 

[Ken_Y`]

wow thats very easy, but when couldit be useful?

btw an easy way to charge it is to use the c-stick and Z simutaneously

 

[bman in 2288]

-Avoiding shieldgrabbing
-Covering a large distance in a short amount of time
-Getting away from the enemy without them following you
-Potential setup for getting the opponent airborne
-It's fun and looks cool <3
-Mindgames
-etc.

There you go.

 

[LoOshKiN]

I think Snake Dashing sounds the best and it's what I always call it. What's RAR?