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Monster Mafia - Game Over! Was the Beast slain, or did evil overcome?

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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@ people in that triple vote block, what's the deal with that? maybe I missed something but it sounds to me like y'all just randomly decided to follow each other for really no reason? If its anything other than arbitrary just lemme know

I'm gonna need more convincing to support this mac wagon, I don't see his lack of investment as scummy at all. If anything his lack of calculation in what he's posting is giving me a slight town lean

don't see a scum werekill atm but goddamn that is the most reactionary and defensive playstyle Ive seen in awhile. bro you gotta chillax and roll with the punches sometimes instead of getting defensive and asking for explanation of every little thing. like honestly the OMGUS on mac is so gross but if you did it in such a carefree manner that it seems genuinely motivated

iluvgiraffes is unpersuasive but not scummy imo

**** honestly like no one jumps out as scummy yet to me

vote the only guy more inactive than me?

Vote: Nabe

@ #HBC | Nabe #HBC | Nabe dude listen you were brilliant n **** in flavourless with that whole fakeclaim doc and recant for obvtown clear in the face of impending mislynch due to deliberately ****ty play but cmon man I dont wanna have to go through that dance again. come play plz my brain and gut are just not ready for your love games bro
 

#HBC | Mac

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i mean I've only really been reading / thinking about posts that mention me so yea basically cuz he wants my lynch.

Specifically I think their reasoning for my connections to girrafes is gonna be really stupid and illogical and not something I think a slot as strong as Jerkus would consider but I wanna hear their specific reasoning for my connections to iLUV before I let my thoughts solidify around this.

I can't really blame them (and others) for thinking I'm scummy as an individual because of the 'werekill backtrack' logic. But I do think that argument is pretty shallow and an easy one to latch onto / try to get others to get behind esp if scum wants to get a easy mislynch on a potential power player. If ppl really think my actions scream scum then I think they probably underestimate my real scum play which I can see ppl like werekill or ran or sum1 who hasn't played with me doing but less so someone like Jerkus

Anyways I'm tired of talking about myself and tooting my own horn so imma shut up till I can take a real look at this game (aka when I'm not on my phone in a line for a bus to Managua)
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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can someone actually explain this Macman meta argument regarding the similarities bewteen his play here and zombies?

i have no idea wtf happened at all in zombies so yeah need some substantiation if Im gonna pay any attention to that argument

also Zen is at creative effort level >9000 but goddamn its so null

like dude I was so pumped that you were gonna have some legit analysis and obvtown **** in that book but all I got was a bunch of notes that even the scummiest of scum couldve thrown together for funsies
 

#HBC | Nabe

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vote the only guy more inactive than me?

Vote: Nabe

@ #HBC | Nabe #HBC | Nabe dude listen you were brilliant n **** in flavourless with that whole fakeclaim doc and recant for obvtown clear in the face of impending mislynch due to deliberately ****ty play but cmon man I dont wanna have to go through that dance again. come play plz my brain and gut are just not ready for your love games bro
Don't even worry about it. I'll claim doc like D2 this time.


I want to reiterate that my vote on ilovegiraffes is not RVS.
 

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@FrozenFlame:

Mac was scumhunting all over the place. As usual, he comes in and focuses on MY reasoning to say I'm scum. (Yet usually townmac does that, in Zombies, and in Simpsons, and it annoys me every time) Here he isn't doing as much. Instead he's focusing on a flimsy connection between him and I that hasn't even been shown yet, and is buddying up to people without actually giving content. He even votes WK along with me but doesn't have an actual read on him, he just wants to **** him outta here and then back pedals because people call out my case as 'bad' and he uses the excuse of being drunk. (Which is bs) His play here is also similar to that of his play in Celeb Rehab mafia, where he left out a vote on X1 (I think) or flame5924343 and didn't come back to that for a while. He mentions having phases of inactivity but that was only after D2, where a scum flipped and his leads were starting to thin up (such as gheb, who died n1).

Sorry if I come off unpersuasive. I guess I really need to look at that lsat stuff.

@ #HBC | Nabe #HBC | Nabe

Again. Why are you voting me?
 

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@Fro. Yeah that post was me me just me organizing the game into a meaningful way rather than an analysis. It was really more for me if anything.

@ #HBC | Scary #HBC | Scary Most defs. The Mac case is a bit over the top imo. And the yet to be explained connection between mac and iluv is just silly. I don't see town circus or j really believing in such a thing.

@Jerkus what were the town bombs that I was presenting and what about them makes you believe they aren't fakeable?

Please present your mac/iluv reasoning.
 

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Let me clarify:

Mac doesn't actually have good reason to be voting werekill. Just that he feels he is deff scum. But then backpedals because people have been calling my push bad and he decided to drop it. I can't see any other reason.
 

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G-raf your mac read seems to have come out of no where. You said you were willing to vote with me on jerkus or mac but I've never had a scum read on Mac.

So why are you voting him over jerkus?
 

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It came since his post going "wow zen I love ur analysis" instead of actually focusing on finding scum. It's also easy to see his play is much different from Zombies to here. Finally I think both Mac and Jerkus are scum together.

There wasn't a wagon on Jerkus at the time. But I am down to wagon him if you are.

Unvote Vote: Jerkus
 

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Also do consider I had Mac/FML in the back of my mind, which is why I asked you on your thoughts on them earlier on. How has your read progressed on Mac?

I'm out. Martial arts.
 

#HBC | Mac

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can someone actually explain this Macman meta argument regarding the similarities bewteen his play here and zombies?
basically cuz ppl (ran / jerkus / whoever else) saw me being normal obvtown mac actively scumhunting in zombies and cuz i haven't yet let my obvtown show here they think it's scummy. Despite the fact that all of d2 in Zombies I posted nothing of merit cuz i hadn't been critically looking at the game, and only started posting **** when Gorf gave me an ultimatum on a lynch (which required me to reread to even gather my thoughts). I'm not sure why it's so farfetched that it's similar to what's happening here
 

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It came since his post going "wow zen I love ur analysis" instead of actually focusing on finding scum. It's also easy to see his play is much different from Zombies to here. Finally I think both Mac and Jerkus are scum together.

There wasn't a wagon on Jerkus at the time. But I am down to wagon him if you are.

Unvote Vote: Jerkus
Damn, you are down to lynch just about anybody, aren't you? You seem pretty bloodthirsty to me.

On another note, Unvote, Vote: Giraffe. I'm feeling the mac case less and less, but I'm happy to jump on it again if Mac makes more posts that still seem iffy. I rethought it, and I suppose drinking can be an acceptable reason for the quick burst vote my way.

So I'm going back to my original vote until I see more.
 

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basically cuz ppl (ran / jerkus / whoever else) saw me being normal obvtown mac actively scumhunting in zombies and cuz i haven't yet let my obvtown show here they think it's scummy. Despite the fact that all of d2 in Zombies I posted nothing of merit cuz i hadn't been critically looking at the game, and only started posting **** when Gorf gave me an ultimatum on a lynch (which required me to reread to even gather my thoughts). I'm not sure why it's so farfetched that it's similar to what's happening here
Hold the ****ing phone here.

Stop saying that you'll be obvtown Mac and start actually ****ing doing it.

Saying "I'll be better guys I swear! Just like the other game where I started doing good stuff D2!" is not a defense in the ****ing slightest. And I personally don't care how you've played in other games. I'm looking at you NOW, not any other games. How you'll start acting D2 is irrelevant to how you're acting now. All I care about is toDay.

unvote, Vote: Macman
 

#HBC | Gorf

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oh hey guys look at how everyone's forgotten about bardull oh joy how convenient.

@ #HBC | Mac #HBC | Mac hate to say it but it's probz in your best interest to just conform and get the tards off your back.

also i look at the playerlist, and why aren't people like wanted or gheb or scary getting attention while like ff and mac are -.- #armchair4lyf
 

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oh hey guys look at how everyone's forgotten about bardull oh joy how convenient.

@ #HBC | Mac #HBC | Mac hate to say it but it's probz in your best interest to just conform and get the tards off your back.

also i look at the playerlist, and why aren't people like wanted or gheb or scary getting attention while like ff and mac are -.- #armchair4lyf
I've grown to think that Bardull really did think it was RVS and just threw out a vote. Besides, he hasn't even really posted since, which I'm annoyed at. I'm annoyed at all the arm chair people, actually, but I'd rather vote someone who is acting scummy rather than someone we get no info from other than a flip after lynching.

As for Macman, I don't want him to "conform." I want him to stop bragging about how obvtown he'll be and start doing it.
 

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Is Werekill really scum? I mean he's being read as scum by a hydra that consists of Ryu and Ranmaru. That's like the strongest town-tell you can find in dGames mafia so I'm pretty sceptical.

:059:


(For the record I don't approve of that vote either but w/e hydra johns)
 

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http://smashboards.com/data/avatars/l/119/119088.jpg?1402934931 head here,

Wtf are you even smoking ran? Werekill is obvtown

Mac isn't getting a pass. Im still getting an eye on him
I'm gonna focus on the bottom here and ask if this is the case why was he a town read to begin with? Like people call me a loony who throws out unwarrented town reads but Macman town at that point even to me seems out there.

What was the internal thinking you had here for why he had to be town here Rake, and I want the Rake half on this one to talk to me on this.
 

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or as long as i shamelessly defend you so you stay alive, you will be getting away with answering exactly zero of giraffe's posts that you feel may be extensive.


I want him to talk to me so I can get an idea where his priorities and head are at, don't get in my way.
 

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http://smashboards.com/data/avatars/l/119/119088.jpg?1402934931 head here,



I'm gonna focus on the bottom here and ask if this is the case why was he a town read to begin with? Like people call me a loony who throws out unwarrented town reads but Macman town at that point even to me seems out there.

What was the internal thinking you had here for why he had to be town here Rake, and I want the Rake half on this one to talk to me on this.
That wasnt even rake. I orbo saw mac being all open and goofy that he felt like town to me. Obv thats changed with his actions or lack thereof since but if he jad rolled on after that it would have been a base for that read to grow off of.
 

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Ok so I am pretty much 110% down for Jerkus right now.

From notes:

#108 defiantly a bad post, the literal top half is all fluff and nothing. Jerkus made a pretty large post really not telling anything of value til the bottomsentence. I only noticed it was fluff when Zen pointed it out in his #113. The post doesn't really seem to serve a purpose in persuading any really direction nor does it really help town get anywhere. It doesn't even help us know why he even went this direction in the first place. "Read his posts" No I'm afraid you're going to need to explain this a little more to me, @Jerkus

#132: I hate this post. I still at this point have no clue why people were and still are willing to lynch Bardull other than he dragged out RVS and played a little goofy. At worst that is all he did, for being legit scummy I have yet to see what he did that warrents a hard body wagon on his ass day 1. Jerkus has been dodging this since the beginning and since then seems to be avoiding these kinds of questions. First legit content from them is their post on me an Macman, I'll dig into that later or let Ran do it. Basically I don't see an ajenda or anything that stems of some form of logic or reasoning before that point.

#250 & #255 still don't make me feel better about this.

Now I can sympathize with not liking Macman off being unhelpful. But why does this stand out over others, now lynching Macman wouldn't make me shed a tear, but again this connection still comes from nothing. And I don't see what they could post that would make them think we are obvious mates when I don't recall off my notes Macman really interacting with my slot other than to see Werekill get lynched.

I don't like the Macman wagon right now despite his lazy attitude with how early this game is still in. For once I actually agree with Gorf on something. If this sticks with Kuz/Macman/Nabe/FF/wanted I want those slots dead or at least dealt with to post more. But right now Jerkus is actually legitimately scummy.

Reads:
Town: 7. Ilovegiraffes (Red Ryu/Ranmaru), 15. Zack Fair, 14. Werekill
town lean: 12. FullMetalLynch (Rake/Orboknown), 2. Gorf, 10. Gheb_01,
I dunno lol: 5. Macman, 6. BarDulL, 8. th3kuzinator, 13. x WaNtEd x, 11. Xatres, 4. FrozenFlame, 1. Nabe
Scum lean: 9. ScaryLB59,
Scum: 3. Jerkus (Circus/J),

We need the people in the middle to give more.
 
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