Monster Mafia - Game Over! Was the Beast slain, or did evil overcome?

[#HBC | Laundry]

vote: rajam

naw i ain't taking that vote laying down, that's probably the ****tiest vote i've seen today. i'm fairly certain gorf talked about every significant player at some point and wasn't just avoiding popular discussion. if he was, i don't ****ing blame him because popular discussion was a bitchfest between macman and jerkus followed by a second bitchfest between xatres and jerkus peppered by rambo ran, and i still remember him commenting on both.

more i look at it, jerkus might actually be town, even if he's a real ****ter. generally these type of bitchfests are tvt though he's not off the hook for later in the game.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Did you read Macman vs Jerkus as TvsT at this point? What about now? What about #572, the post right before this one?

Yes/yes/you mean jerkus post? Mobile cant see post number but yes. Orbo read that as tvt from about a quarter kf the day on or whenever mac started posting in earnest

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@ Vult Redux

I think you've made some pretty decent points on Joey. Do you think the case againt Frozen is stronger or do you just think that a frozen lynch is more likely to happen than a Joey lynch? I think frozen was being pretty townie during Zen's fake claim and with hindsight I don't think there's a similar instance in joey's case.

 

[Nameless]

Vote Count

1. Nabe
2. WashedLaundry (1) - Rajam
3. Jerkus (Circus/J) (1) - Xastrn
4. FrozenFlame (1) - Vult Redux
5. Macman
6. Rajam (5) - Nabe, Gheb_01, FullMetalLynch, Jerkus, WashedLaundry
7. Vult Redux (2) - Ashemu, Macman
8. Gheb_01
9. Xatres
10. FullMetalLynch (Rake/Orboknown)
11. Joey
12. Werekill
13. Ashemu

Not voting: FrozenFlame, Joey, Werekill

 

[Vult Redux]

why are both vult and rajam using "not around at the end of d1" as a reason to incriminate slots like wtf that's the poorest of poor reasoning

if you're not in the thread you:
- can't be blamed if the town doesn't manage to round up the votes to lynch.
- aren't pressured to add your vote to the pile, making it more liking that buddy is lynched.

I kind of brought that up to qualify my point that Frozen hasn't really mentioned Scary D1. Being afk is legitimate; I know from experience.Awkward (round 2) that you read enough of my post to catch a teeny bit that is kind of irrelevant in the grand scheme of FF and are quick to lump my case in with Rajam's (disclaimer: I didn't read it yet) but don't comment on the issues taken together.

Guess you conveniently forgot that I was V/LA near the end of the day phase on a road trip for my ****ing birthday

Guess you conveniently forgot that that was the whole reason I had no chance to read what was going on w.r.t. the Scary wagon and barely had time to see that there was a wagon on me call that out for the opportunistic **** that it was

actually I mentioned this. See above.

Guess you conveniently forgot that I blatantly stated D1 that I was completely fine with Scary being in "can die" tier

Link?

smh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma#False_choice

Actually even though my wording is snarky I'm not trying to set up a dichotomy. I want to know whether you think it's Town-led because if you do I probably have issues with it depending on your rationale.

 

[Vult Redux]

@ Vult Redux

I think you've made some pretty decent points on Joey. Do you think the case againt Frozen is stronger or do you just think that a frozen lynch is more likely to happen than a Joey lynch? I think frozen was being pretty townie during Zen's fake claim and with hindsight I don't think there's a similar instance in joey's case.

Actually I didn't expect FF to be in the thread when I made the post and expected him to ignore me if I hadn't backed my post up with a vote. Not because the case is stronger or has more support etc.
I thought about Zen's ruse for a bit but didn't bring it up in my post because even though I think it's a point against FF, it's a little heavy on WIFOM. One thing that I considered, that I personally think makes sense, was that FF was really reluctant to call Zen out for lying and immediately suggested that Zen must be gambiting. This would fit really well with FF being a Mafia Goon (or any Mafia who didn't submit an action) -- a role that knows that Zen is Town but also must be lying.I'm curious about what about that you thought was town though?

 

[Vult Redux]

also V/LA tomorrow for birthday, plz don't turn a wagon on me last second, lol. I'll try to check in at least once though.also I don't think I'll get around to updating my reads tonight like I said earlier. I got slammed with a terrible headache and I feel awful and I'm only checking in now to write responses. offhand iirc I don't like FML much and don't have Werekill as a solid Town like everyone else seems to.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Link?

Actually even though my wording is snarky I'm not trying to set up a dichotomy. I want to know whether you think it's Town-led because if you do I probably have issues with it depending on your rationale.

dude also Jerkus I'm so 100% with you on Scary being in "can die" tier, thats on point

And no I don't think the wagon on me was explicitly lead by town. I still think it was grimy as **** but idk who you consider to be "leading" it. Just go back and read my full read post and youll see exactly how I stand on everyone on my wagon

 

[Jerkus]

@Rajam

How caught up on the thread are you?

 

[Dooms]

Ugh.

I'm better now, but I'm really behind. Do I have time to catch up for a lynch? If so, I'll start catching up tomorrow when I'm not playing league.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Deadline's in like two days, bruh. You better start doing **** soon. Same goes for @ Xatres and @ Lore

I thought about Zen's ruse for a bit but didn't bring it up in my post because even though I think it's a point against FF, it's a little heavy on WIFOM. One thing that I considered, that I personally think makes sense, was that FF was really reluctant to call Zen out for lying and immediately suggested that Zen must be gambiting. This would fit really well with FF being a Mafia Goon (or any Mafia who didn't submit an action) -- a role that knows that Zen is Town but also must be lying. I'm curious about what about that you thought was town though?

Maybe I'm giving him too much pro-town credit for it but I still don't see how your points on frozen are supposed to be stronger than those on Joey. That's what bugs me the most about it right now.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@ Ashemu @ #HBC | Nabe

You two could also like start doing something by now.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I want Rajam / Laundry or Nabe lynched toDay.
I could deal with a lynch of Jerkus, Frozen, Joey and FML.
Everybody else can live.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

As if anybody doesn't know by now that saying my name in connection with "You're not doing anything" is a trigger to make me avoid the thread.

And doing so on a Canadian holiday when I'd otherwise be here all day with nothing else to do but play mafia; now, that's just dangerous.

 

[Ashemu]

@ Ashemu @ #HBC | Nabe

You two could also like start doing something by now.

i can quickhammer rajam if somebody moves theyre vote
nabes probably scum tbh

stopped feeling this game

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

If I'm scum for you and Raj is a deadline fallback lynch or something, then get back into it and get on me. When active you're a very strong player, particularly including the entirely different perspective you bring that no one else here shares.

(Which isn't a "you're unique because everyone's unique" statement, it's "you're unique and other people are bad".)

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

i can quickhammer rajam if somebody moves theyre vote

someone plz do this

 

[Lore]

**** it, this day is going nowhere.

Vote: Rajam

Apologies for being inactive, it has been a super busy week.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Ashemu where u @

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

@ Ashemu ^

10tagfixes

 

[Ashemu]

uhhhh that was half tongue-in-cheek half an attempt to see how people would react except the person who went for it is my #1 townread @_@

 

[Ashemu]

Vote: Rajam
oh well lol. gheb and ff have been doing a decent job of turning around my reads on them so im gonna trust em on this one but i still think nabe/vult are shifty. i also think rajam's D2 post did a terrible job of making him readable in a game where he strongly needed to be

 

[Ashemu]

i still feel like gorf/laundry and jerkus were hard town though. i dont get why ppl are so paranoid about them

 

[Ashemu]

actually **** i forgot rajam was bardull and not wanted while making that vote, mightve reconsidered

ghdsjkfhs sorry for going braindead on this game suddenly. hopefully he flips scum anyway

 

[Dooms]

Oh.

I guess I'll catch up over the night then .-.

 

[Ashemu]

^_^

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Vote Count

1. Nabe
2. WashedLaundry (1) - Rajam
3. Jerkus (Circus/J) (1) - Xastrn
4. FrozenFlame (1) - Vult Redux
5. Macman
6. Rajam (7) - Nabe, Gheb_01, FullMetalLynch, Jerkus, WashedLaundry, Werekill, Ashemu
7. Vult Redux (1) - Macman
8. Gheb_01
9. Xatres
10. FullMetalLynch (Rake/Orboknown)
11. Joey
12. Werekill
13. Ashemu

Not voting: FrozenFlame, Joey

A lynch has been reached. Flip incoming.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Rajam (The Baby, Mafia Goon) has been lynched!
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Night 2 starts! Send in all Night actions by 07/03/14 at 3:00pm (15) EST.

No more posting in thread.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Jerkus (Milosz, Vanilla Townie) has been killed during the Night!


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Vote Count

1. Nabe
2. WashedLaundry
3. FrozenFlame
4. Macman
5. Vult Redux
6. Gheb_01
7. Xatres
8. FullMetalLynch (Rake/Orboknown)
9. Joey
10. Werekill
11. Ashemu

Not voting: Everybody

Joey is hated toDay. It will take on less vote to lynch him.

Day 3 starts! With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Well good **** yall

 

[Lore]

Awesome! Gut feeling turned out right.

... But ****. I was enjoying buddying up with Jerkus.

 

[#HBC | J]

Boo! Go town!

 

[Xatres]

Real Talk: I had a surprise job interview this past week, which is why I basically disappeared D2. That process is now over (I got the job!) so I should be more active toDay.

 

[Ashemu]

Vult: Vote Redux yea so it turns out this guy is scum too
*vote
*vult
* Vote: Vote Redux

 

[Ashemu]

the ED1 mac -> gorf -> gheb -> jerkus pileup on bardull is probably worth noting

gorf has like a really good voting record im on the fence over if it could just be a commitment to bussing

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Vult: Vote Redux yea so it turns out this guy is scum too
*vote
*vult
* Vote: Vote Redux

Does this have na back up or just confident on that?
Pretty sure mac vs jerkus was tvt and not svt so we shouldn't worry about mac.
Don't think gorf was bussing bardull d1 so laundry probs towb

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Macman, Joey and Xatres contains scum imo.

Vote Macman

 

[Xatres]

@ ~ Gheb ~ - Why vote Macman and not me or Joey? So far BOTH my publically stated top scumpicks have flipped town, and I haven't been on either scum wagon. (Though to be fair, if Jerkus had ever answered one of my questions, I wouldn't have been tunneling so hard)

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Pretty pumped that my reads have been on ****ing point. Confidence++ up in here

and yesssssssssssssss I can vote again thatnk ****ing god

Vult: Vote Redux yea so it turns out this guy is scum too
*vote
*vult
* Vote: Vote Redux

is this some NA confirmation **** or you just really into seeing that slot go? I'm completely with you on this either way

Vote: Vult Redux

Macman, Joey and Xatres contains scum imo.

Vote Macman

I like your pick out of the three but I really dont see scum in the other two. This could be a great pool for indy picks though. Lets deal with mac later and focus on culling the heard more, ya feel me? I'm getting flashbacks to flavourless so I aint got no time to let question marks float till late

@ ~ Gheb ~ - Why vote Macman and not me or Joey? So far BOTH my publically stated top scumpicks have flipped town, and I haven't been on either scum wagon. (Though to be fair, if Jerkus had ever answered one of my questions, I wouldn't have been tunneling so hard)

lol so obvtown

or clever indy but meh you can still sit as town for awhile

anyone who still thinks im scum is laughably out of touch with this game

choo choo mother****ers lets goooooooo. Strong finish this time, no flavourless-esque struggle bus ****

 

[Xivii]

Nice job guys! I haven't read at all so I guess I'll let Ashe continue on that han status.