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Such minor confusions lead us to no results. Though I agree with Scum that he might be faking it, but as always it's to early to tell anything.
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Id rather him be killed the way a jester is supposed to be killed, not by lynching. You're acting like lynching is the only way to take out ppl.
Obviously were fighting for second place. The Jester isn't just trying to convince the town to lynch him, but the scum as well.MafiaWiki said:
Yeah man, trying to make you not focus on us is done by me commenting about something obvious and un-ignore able done by him. It was gonna get commented on anyway sooner or later. I just stated my thoughts. I still think he's kinda avoiding it but explaining it could put him out in the open for the mafia.
Ignore him, you don't have the willpower to do so?
Because it's already bad enough that the mafia has 3/4/however many heads working together. They don't need us helping them decide their NK's. And if we talk about Gheb's font in some attempt to figure out who he is, then that's exactly what we'll be doing.
I'm not arguing that Gheb must be town. I'm arguing that if Gheb is town (which we have no reason to doubt so far), then talking about his possible identity doesn't do anything but help scum. And if he's scum, then talking about his posting restriction isn't going to be how we figure it out. It is completely unhelpful to us.
Gheb doesn't need to be scummy to tell people to back off. A town Gheb would probably react just like this as well, because, like I said, he wouldn't want his identity laid out in front of the mafia in an any more obvious manner than it already is.
because no matter how stubbornly you insist on it you will never be able to tell a townie and a scumbag apart by an assumed posting restriction. a game can have many aspects but that doesn't mean that all of them are of importance to us.
you gave a scenario where it *can* be the case that an anti-town role has a posting restriction but i dont see why this should be enough for anyone to deduce that i *have* an anti-town role. you gave an example of how anti-town roles *can* have posting restrictions but you never explain how and why it proves that i have an anti-town roles. what if the game mod chooses to give a pr a posting restriction? would you lynch him based on the assumption that he is scum *because* of his restriction? that would be the worst idea ever.
i think my different way of posting drew so much attention by now that this whole point is obsolete. if im posting vastly different than everybody else in a highly obvious manner how can you accuse me of trying to avoid attention? if i wanted to avoid attention id try to not post.
neither does yours. you seem to confuse 'scumhunting' with 'looking for a scapegoat'. Mafia is not an easy game to win. Scum wont offer themselves on a silver platter. townies can make mistakes, game mods can add shenanigans to make things difficult for you. just because things look obvious on the surface doesnt mean theyll lead you anywhere. as a townie you should now jump the gun on everything you see. you should also take the capability of people being able to make mistakes into account. a player like BY who rarely played mafia on swf is very prone to do something wrong. does that mean hes scum? no it means that we - the other townies - have to be smart and see the difference between a newbie town mistake and a scumslip. you shouldnt just push for a lynch because of something you see. take a closer look at the how and the why of things before you claim to have any great scumtells.
because a jester is still an anti-town role. if we played mafia with the presentiment that we must never lynch a jester then scum could just fake jester to *avoid* the lynch. if we really want to win this game as you correctly said then the best thing we can do is to simply assume that theres no jester at all.
This is probably the worst reasoning for anything yet.
Do my eyes deceive me? Cacti has 1 vote without anyone RAWRing on him. Guess we should be careful.
Jesters are incredibly rare. The general DGames consensus on jesters seems to be that they are super lame. For that reason, I find it improbable that Smashman included one. And even if he did, it's not worth dwelling on.
no its not. it is commonly agreed on swf that jesters are awful and they have not been used this whole year at all no mad uses jesters anymore because that role is broken, unfun and destroys every game.
i am not sure if you just cling to the leftovers of the rvs or if youre incredibly tunneslvisioned but i advice you to stop it now. you better give your input on more recent issues because you cant draw the 'omg he selfvotes quicklynch plz' card forever and ignore/not comment on everything else that happens.
i agree
Because you are diverting attention from the main goal here, posting restrictions aren't really worth pointing out and certainly not discussing them. You will get nowhere and just end up in a giant wifom ball.
Chibo this isn't a real life competition where first place gets all the money.
It's not necessarily, I know for a fact certain mods would never include certain roles due to their distaste for them.
You'll live. Summarize the issues you think are worth noting minus talk of jesters and power roles.
do you agree with my accusation against scumfever in my #79? do you agree with me the blue yoshi wagon is probably scum-infected? if yes, who of those people is the scummiest and why?
I'll talk about post #79, but I'd like to go over post #71 where you actually placed your vote down first:
You guess at the set-up, and then say someone on the blue yoshi wagon is probably scum based on statistics. Then you pick scumfever because Xonar has a vote on him.lol döner kebab totally beats your hamburger junk
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im not sure how to interpret the last sentence in that quote. are you talking about about a quicklynch? if thats the case then no, it never happened. it should be pretty obvious *why* it never happened and im sure that if you think about it you can answer that question yourself. or are you talking about a player being voted at least once by every player during day one? im not sure if that ever happened. the only example i can think of is handorin in spidey-manfia. he was an independently alligned politician, which means that he had to get the most votes out of all players by the end of the game without being actually lynched.
i dont see how your question is relevant anyway. what makes you think that this could be the "first time"? why'd you want that in the first place? there is no point to hope for a quicklynch or to get many votes if youre a townie because the former never happens and the latter only steals the spotlight from players who are actually scummy/suspicious. unless youre a jester (horrible role) you should never selfvote imo.
since we have 15 players in this game i think its a fair assumption that there is a three-man mafia and about two or three indies. going by the mere statistics its very likely that one player on the blue yoshi wagon could be a scumbag since there are 5 people on it which is exactly a third of fifteen. xonar is european like me so that makes his vote on scumfever even more plausible. however 2 votes arent nearly enough for him. i hope i can count on people like chaco, frozen and mentos to hop that wagon to get this game rolling. chibo and tiger are both on my radar too but a scumfever wagon sounds like a good deal for now.
rawr scumfever
You seem completely convinced it's a newbie townie mistake, much like scumfever seems completely convinced it's a newbie scum mistake. In all honestly I can see scum taking either stance on this issue if we operate under the assumption blue yoshi is town. They could push the lynch, or they could adamantly oppose it to gain credibility. You and scumfever come off as opposite sides of the spectrum to me.please do not skip any of my posts because they are 'hard to read'. personally i can see them perfectly fine but if you still have troubles just quote or copypaste them. dont make things more complicated than necessary by complaining about something minor when there are easy ways around it.
better question: does it even *matter* if i have said posting restriction or not? we are supposed to find scum not to speculate about something that doesnt help us in that regard.
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so quick to point your finger at something so strongly? pretty sure that a townie could make such a mistake just as much. in fact i think that this is indeed the case here. dont you see it? every inexperienced player has made such a mistake at a certain point and in many cases it was a townie not a scumbag. really need to think your vote over...
answer this: why are you so convinced to exclude the possibility of it being a townie mistake? many townies have argued with wifom before. many townies have been 'rolefishing' at some point. what makes you ignore the idea that he could be a townie making a mistake and just go straight for the most sinister possibility? *that* looks like something scum would do: trying to exploit mistakes of inexperienced players and make them the scapegoats. playing that game doesnt require commitment and is quickly covered by a simple 'oh well he was playing dumb' in case of a mislynch. exactly the angle scum would go for.
so i am fine with my vote too
2nd question: I doubt we'll see many large bandwagons that are 100% town.
Policy.
I don't see how it would out a PR without said PR being very stupid, but point taken.
