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[choknater]

yeah if u always do the same things to space it becomes very easy to penetrate, even for slow chars like zelda. moves like dash attack become better if u can predict people's jumps/sh aerials

aggression is just like... getting a hit, then mixing it up against their options (shield options, wakeup/ledge options, etc)

all out aggression is stupid these days, perfect rushdowns are nearly impossible in this game. so melee's true aggression is mixing it up against them while limiting their options

 

[Sage Osaka]

Yeah I forgot to add into my post that a good mixup of smart decisions, spacing, and aggression is Probably ideal, that's how kens marth was so dominant, especially adding in his godlike reads

 

[choknater]

kens marth is SOOOOOOOOOO GOOD

honestly i miss the marth metagame

ken/azen/m2k/kdj

their marths were all freakin AMAZING

im gettin tired of watching spacies actually LOL. but its all good

good marth is the sexiest thing to watch EVERRRRRRR

 

[12345678910]

Spacies all day, boring all day. Andre if you're tired of top level matches being spacie only, get your IC there! What characters are fun to watch anyways? Taj's mewtwo...Axe's pikachu...I dont know what else I really enjoy watching unless the match is extremely close

I'll give my sheik some more practice. I feel sad when I look at the melee roster and see how many characters are completely unplayable. I especially noticed that when I was at Keith's when I wanted to play some other characters...but there were none. I'll give pikachu and ganon some practice too, they're decent characters.

 

[UNO EMOJI]

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[12345678910]

This message is hidden because 69% is on your ignore list.

awye

 

[kirbyraeg]

aw shit

we gotta watch 1, 2, and 3 to better understand gayballs

 

[MasterShake]

ROFL Joe Mang.

I believe that almost all the roster is viable in Melee, save for Pichu/Kirby. Well, maybe Kirby.

 

[GKInfinity]

The fly swatter is too strong for low tier characters.

Joe mang no

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upfeBJx0Dss

...wow very good match.

Dangggg, that last stock

 

[choknater]

hahah moon

i think zelda and boozer are not viable either. too e-z

but lots of characters are viable. link, doc, mario, samus, ganon, all decent

dk can be REALLY good
luigi is a lil slow but if u can win each encounter, u got this

idk i have experience with like every character and i know some are just terrrrrible.

protip: yoshi is decent

 

[MasterShake]

But Cosmo is SO good with Zelda.

Same with DJ Ninten and Boozer. Dude like 4 stocks people.

 

[12345678910]

I'm going to drop the don't know the match-up johns. I'd like to see DJ Nintendo beat one of the people he plays with consistently...yeah not going to happen. I haven't seen a game on livestream where DJN wins a game, just saying. Scratch that, he's done it with mario, but mario is a lot better than bowser. At least cosmo beat macd before

bowser and zelda are not viable characters.

 

[MasterShake]

I think DJ beat PKM vodka in tournament (a while ago) with Bowse. PKM using Marth.

And lol Matchups. Just stay away from the ledge and space his shield. EASY. No one SHOULD lose to Bowser. But they do. Thus, viability.

 

[Sage Osaka]

rule of thumb: dont let bowser go to yoshis story

 

[UNO EMOJI]

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[kirbyraeg]

card games

 

[12345678910]

card games

card games in space or on motorcycles? or better yet space motorcycles

 

[MasterShake]

Wait a minute....

Yugioh mangster...

Impossible level nines.... (this is true though)

Is there something you aren't 2:04ing me, JOE MANG??

 

[UNO EMOJI]

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[MasterShake]

SYKE.

Trick question.

Now, what kind of tires does Ganon have?

 

[choknater]

about half the melee cast is viable

 

[LumpyCPU...]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upfeBJx0Dss

...wow very good match.

i usually only have fun watching that matchup when husband and wife commentate on it.
great match though. peach edge guarding with fair. too good.

lol, yeah i know that marth beats zelda nick, especially on paper. i just like to see how its done in practice. and yeah, i need to learn the aggression tactics a bit more, ive adapted to the "smart play and spacing" game too much lately, although i probably dont even do that very well.

i gave you nothing but fox practice back then, i guess i should've given you da peachy **** too, huh?

aw shit

we gotta watch 1, 2, and 3 to better understand gayballs

my thoughts exactly.

 

[12345678910]

Hey can't you drill shine infinite link? I want to try it out on 69%'s link

Hmm not sure if his jab is fast enough to get out it on a turn around shine not that it matters since you can CC that and continue lol

 

[Sage Osaka]

Haha yeah Kenny, having peach practice would actually be really nice, peaches are hard for me right now >_<

 

[Miztik]

yo baby yo baby yo

i noticed you noticing me and i just wanna put on you notice that i noticed you too.

so are you down to get down

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

all you need to be good at anything is a bit of skill, but mostly the confidence to carry your skill to the end.

I remember getting owned by pinkshinobi the first time i played him because I underestimated him so hard (pink what? lol this guy just started playing melee, he CAN'T BE GOOD!)

my mind was stuck on only one thing for like the next year, and that was becoming amazing at the marth v peach matchup.

I studied ken vs vidjogamer/sastopher matches every night(watching ken's marth matches will make any marth player very confident), and when paul came to my house for 209 training a month before genesis, me and him played marth v peach extensively, and I won about 95% of the matches because I was confident! Paul said I was the hardest marth he's ever played =D.

and then he goes on to beat cactuar's marth at Genesis. =D I was so proud.

I guess this is why the top players always remain amazing players. They strive like hell to get to the top, they get tons of recognition from their peers, and they become confident that way!

 

[Sage Osaka]

jr i hella agree and respect everything you just said (especially the part about gaining confidence from watching ken videos)

i wish i had good people to just play with a lot still, kenny was my last resort and i had a losing complex or something back then, that i would like to think that ive gotten over by now. hopefully when you come down in a couple days we can play a ****load of friendlies all dai and i can gain something out of it.

also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctcL3NSmzxI

epic music + epic video = epic

 

[choknater]

wow LOL so epic

i watched part 2 as well

dang

 

[LumpyCPU...]

i guess i was just a last resort... that's cool...

 

[Sage Osaka]

im not even suffocating, i'm still fully breathing bro.

 

[LumpyCPU...]

and i do give a fuuck if i cut my arm bleeding.

 

[Sage Osaka]

yeah, that would hurt.... ouch O_O

 

[LumpyCPU...]

you guys wanna play some smash?

hit me up on da celly.

 

[12345678910]

Nice videos and I dont even know anything about SF.

Keith what are the specs on your computer? Also what settings is SC2 running on your comp?

I was thinking of building a computer mostly from scratch. I'll keep my case and my HDD to save me some cash for sure. I'm pretty sure my RAM can also be salvaged though I guess...I should just switch to DDR3. So that leaves me with buying a mobo, PSU, CPU and GPU for sure correct? I don't know what my power supply is, but I'll look at it asap and see if I even need to change that. Saving $$$ is always good

I don't know what settings I'll aim for yet. Could give me some good CPU/ GPU combination for each? Either Intel or AMD is just fine I don't really care. I've looked around a lot, but eh more opinions the better

I need some EE HAN TIMING to pull this one out since a friend of mine wants me to play SC2 with her starting a little bit after January since she'll be done with her college apps by then and sandy bridge is also coming out early January

Edit: Oh yeah I turn 18 January 9th so yeah that's where I'm getting all my cash for this one, but I can buy it earlier or later. Didn't ask for anything for Christmas other than my sc2 copy.

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

play sc2 on the lowest settings bro.

i'm serious lol ITS THE WAY TO GO!

 

[12345678910]

play sc2 on the lowest settings bro.

i'm serious lol ITS THE WAY TO GO!

I know you are, lowest settings = best for competitive play I've heard since its easier to pick out cloaked units and what not + other little things. However since my video card has not been working since the beginning of summer this year I can't even play SC2 on my computer. I *could* just get a new card, but I am better off getting a better one...and im better off changing everything anyways

I don't know

 

[Sage Osaka]

Nice videos and I dont even know anything about SF.

Keith what are the specs on your computer? Also what settings is SC2 running on your comp?

I was thinking of building a computer mostly from scratch. I'll keep my case and my HDD to save me some cash for sure. I'm pretty sure my RAM can also be salvaged though I guess...I should just switch to DDR3. So that leaves me with buying a mobo, PSU, CPU and GPU for sure correct? I don't know what my power supply is, but I'll look at it asap and see if I even need to change that. Saving $$$ is always good

I don't know what settings I'll aim for yet. Could give me some good CPU/ GPU combination for each? Either Intel or AMD is just fine I don't really care. I've looked around a lot, but eh more opinions the better

I need some EE HAN TIMING to pull this one out since a friend of mine wants me to play SC2 with her starting a little bit after January since she'll be done with her college apps by then and sandy bridge is also coming out early January

Edit: Oh yeah I turn 18 January 9th so yeah that's where I'm getting all my cash for this one, but I can buy it earlier or later. Didn't ask for anything for Christmas other than my sc2 copy.

i have an i7 920, a 5850, 6 gb ddr3, 850w psu, and uh, i think thats all the relevant specs. i run sc2 and any other game i have/play on completely maxed settings (at 1920x1080).

yeah i can recommend some specs, i wouldnt bother waiting for sandy bridge, it will be really expensive, either an i5 or an i7 is probably the best 'bang for your buck' cpu right now, at least imo. aim for at least 4gb ram, but if you want to future proof your pc for at least a couple years go for 6. also, if youre buying a new mobo i think you have to upgrade to ddr3. on the red team i would possibly suggest anything equal to or better than a 5770, and on the green team probably anything as good or better than a gtx460. 750w psu should be sufficient to handle all that with a decent amount of wiggle room for OC'ing.

 

[12345678910]

Sounds good gtx 460 for $120 after the rebates / discount.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390. This look good?

I think I will go with the i5 and see what I can get out of it with OC. I mentioned the sandybridge after all these rumors about price drops on the older i5s but newegg has some pretty good christmas deals right now on most things. 4gb ram sounds good.

4 gb ram $50 or so.
i5 = $200? I don't know, still have to look through since there are various i5 models
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...e=lga_1156_motherboard-_-13-128-437-_-Product

What about this mobo? LGA 1156 is needed for intel's chips, but I don't know if this would be the best bang for my buck. I know it only has one PCIe slot, but obviously SCII doesn't support two GPUs and I'm not buying two either.

Why 750w? Isn't that overkill? I see most people recommend 500-600 at most for OC builds...does your card + i7 OC'ed really need that much power?

So far so good I think

Oh yeah I want someone to try to drill shine my sheik, peach, marth, etc effectively
Get at my annoying SDI so you have to do backwards waveshines / turn around shines. I did it a lot of times against Keith's fox, but I want to perfect it. I have too much fun wasting my tech skill on dumb things.

You can SDI-> ledge tech marth's dtilt edgeguards too so long as he doesn't hit you with the very tip. Very useful for making marth either mess up when he has to rush to the ledge to edgeguard or use neutral B (which doesnt edgeguard at all until very high percents). Learn something new every day

 

[LumpyCPU...]

i'm extremely interested in this PC conversation even though keith told me all of this already.

since i can't afford mine yet, this like porn for me.

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

lol kenny same here

poor folk like us can only window shop