Moderator Mafia - Now known as Loli Kawaii no desu forums, scum wins!

[Kantrip]

I dare you to shut the **** up. I'm not going digging through more **** on your behalf.

 

[Dooms]

I don't care how many games you've played in, to be honest. It is not indicative of skill, and I don't need to see it.

Accumulate your case on me. My play. No WIFOM. No connection case to someone neither of us can meta.

You're joking right?

The whole trying to end the day early thing just went over your head?

Yeah, even though this whole connection case thing still happened, that whole thing still applies, and that alone is enough for me to want you lynched over Guus and Pluvia.

 

[Pluvia]

Yeah don't get too angry at this game people, we are looking for scum but it's nothing personal, if I choose the wrong one then don't take it personally it's basically a flip of a coin or which one of you I think is more likely to be scum.

Unless it's like some scummy emotional blackmail in which case lol you *******. I think we should sleep on this. Be back in a few hours.

 

[Pluvia]

Though one of you asked who I trusted the most in this game, well it was Chibo (lol) until he did that weird lying stuff on the last day, and now it's Guus due to his whole FBI thing. I never truely trusted anyone else.

 

[Kantrip]

Next question: Out of the players who were in this game, who do you think was the best/most competent?

 

[Kantrip]

Joey's case against me is that I "wanted to end the day early". His only point is something that he hasn't even substantiated and that is completely stupid and subjective to begin with.

Enough said.

 

[Pluvia]

TB. He was the one that did all the gambits and seemed like the most competent. Even with his gambit against me he eventually realised that I wasn't scum so laid off me and in doing so he found out about John.

Heck I'm sure he also knew Glyph was a doctor before Glyph actually stated he was. Evidently one of you agree with me, otherwise you wouldn't have tried to kill him off so early.

 

[Dooms]

Joey's case against me is that I "wanted to end the day early". His only point is something that he hasn't even substantiated and that is completely stupid and subjective to begin with.

Enough said.

How so? :3c.

Break my posts apart please, or realize that you're wrong. You can throw out general statements that could be made about anything and sound somewhat right without the information behind it.

"T-block is the worst player ever since all of his play is stupid and there isn't anything he did right."

 

[Dooms]

TB. He was the one that did all the gambits and seemed like the most competent. Even with his gambit against me he eventually realised that I wasn't scum so laid off me and in doing so he found out about John.

Heck I'm sure he also knew Glyph was a doctor before Glyph actually stated he was. Evidently one of you agree with me, otherwise you wouldn't have tried to kill him off so early.

No opinions on T-block. I came into the game underestimating him. I thought Raziek was WAY better than him. I was wrong. This is probably due to the time it's been since I've played with T-block, though.

 

[Kantrip]

@Pluvia: Not all the gambits, actually. I would like to take credit for the execute gambit. On John.

Anyways, I don't disagree with your choices and I understand why you would trust Chibo and Guus above T-block and Glyph. I'm also glad you still acknowledged T-block as a very competent player, however.

Now, if you were to average what these three choices of yours had as a read on me, what would you end up with? How about if you did the same for Dooms? I don't actually know the answer to this and I'm curios what they thought as a collective, knowing they were all town (well not Guus for sure, but it's pretty damn likely).

 

[Dooms]

How so? :3c.

Break my posts apart please, or realize that you're wrong. You can throw out general statements that could be made about anything and sound somewhat right without the information behind it.

"T-block is the worst player ever since all of his play is stupid and there isn't anything he did right."

Change "you can throw" to "you are throwing", since after rereading that post, that's exactly what you're doing lol.

 

[Kantrip]

Dooms, we are looking for the roleblocker, right?

 

[Dooms]

@Pluvia: Not all the gambits, actually. I would like to take credit for the execute gambit. On John.

Anyways, I don't disagree with your choices and I understand why you would trust Chibo and Guus above T-block and Glyph. I'm also glad you still acknowledged T-block as a very competent player, however.

Now, if you were to average what these three choices of yours had as a read on me, what would you end up with? How about if you did the same for Dooms? I don't actually know the answer to this and I'm curios what they thought as a collective, knowing they were all town (well not Guus for sure, but it's pretty damn likely).

Since Pluv is on mobile, I'll get posts for him .

 

[Dooms]

Dooms, we are looking for the roleblocker, right?

Yes. What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Pluvia]

Well actually I came off my mobile about an hour ago but sure if you want, though Kantrip:

I'm not sure what their reads were but I don't think TB trusts you. The problem here is you were one of my first pics, you and Raz, and Raz ended up being a SK and you have ended up here when we're still looking for mafia.

In fact I remember on D2 I kept on asking people why we were all just forgetting you were one of the top scum picks and if I recall correctly TB told me to more or less leave it for a while, but that you're still not in the clear.

 

[Kantrip]

Just making sure you're not some sort of scum double voter or something stupid, Joey.

Oh yeah, I also crumbed my flavour in this post.

That's actually fair enough, Pluvia. I forgot you had a scum read on me earlier. I would like to ask if you could explain it.

 

[Kantrip]

MyLo?

And I'm F8AL, VT. Kantrip better be something that explains his ability to not get investigated.

Legit. I beliebe Pluvia, but this is already clear.

...

I need to learn how majorities work.

Ishieymoro - Vanilla Townie

Is my role.

I don't care about order. I want as much time as I can have to think about possible connections and stuff.

I don't even know who this mod is. Something about the wolf boards I think. Safe claim, much?

Ninja'd hard LOL.

I was investigated no problem. It was just the one Night that Guus got roleblocked.

I am STEW!

Yeah. Sold2, Vanilla Townie. What a coincidence, we all claimed VT.

I'm Stew. Enough said.

 

[Dooms]

Oh and Joey outside of the Chibo claim (HOW) has been aight

Here's glyph for you. Most recent with a read on me.

Note, I'm only doing mine because I'm about to head out soon. I'll let you do your own, Kantrip. Or I'll let Pluvia do it.

 

[Dooms]

Legit. I beliebe Pluvia, but this is already clear.



I don't even know who this mod is. Something about the wolf boards I think. Safe claim, much?



I'm Stew. Enough said.

You just told me not to make a case based on Wifom.

"Safeclaim..."

Welp...

(Pluvia, if you don't get what I'm saying, Kantrip is basically being hypocritcal, since he's trying to force me to make a case on him with stuff that isn't WIFOM, even though he's using mostly (if not all) WIFOM in his case on me.)

 

[Kantrip]

"aight".

"outside of the chibo claim".

Yeah I agree with what Glyph said. You were pretty meh throughout, and your actions during the Chibo claim were REALLY BAD.

You were literally JUMPING onto his cop innocent and voted glyph, unvoted voted glyph, unvoted. Seriously you were playing bad then, and then John was scum and it all makes sense.

 

[Dooms]

But he thought I was alright outside of that.

Everyone (including you) thought I was obvious town until Chibo claim.

Because I was the only one that thought Chibo was telling the truth.

Day 3, people call me scum since I said that I'd be right with Chibo.

I was right with Chibo.

How is any of that scummy?

 

[Kantrip]

You were trying to buy townie points with Chibo. Don't even lie to me. I know this because you literally said to T-block:

"Let's lynch Chibo, and then Glyph if Chibo is town".

Setting up the mislynch of two townies while keeping John alive. This plan actually made no sense in the first place.

HOW IS THIS NOT OBVIOUS?

Please, Pluvia. Make my life and just vote Dooms. If you don't see him as scum, tell me why. Please.

 

[Dooms]

You were trying to buy townie points with Chibo. Don't even lie to me. I know this because you literally said to T-block:

"Let's lynch Chibo, and then Glyph if Chibo is town".

Setting up the mislynch of two townies while keeping John alive. This plan actually made no sense in the first place.

HOW IS THIS NOT OBVIOUS?

Please, Pluvia. Make my life and just vote Dooms. If you don't see him as scum, tell me why. Please.

Note that I said this because Chibo and John were 100% connected at the time.

Look at my conversation with Glyph after that.

It went something like this:

Well first, none of the roles claimed so far have anything strong backed up towards them. I see why John wouldn't respond to T-block about Acrostic being killed if he was a doctor, I see why you would have T-block as auto town and why you would want John lynched if you were a doctor, and I see why Chibo would go after you and not after John at all if he was a cop.

The only thing that benefits voting you over voting John/Chibo is that I don't have a connection with you unless it was T-block, but even then that's a very weak connection, versus Chibo/John who are basically clearing themselves. If you're not scum, then we can force a lynch on Chibo/John (Chibo being the first to go, since he may still have that ability to stop votes). Actually...

T-block: How do you feel about voting Chibo? If Chibo flips town, we'll lynch Glyph. Sound fair?

Joey it makes much more sense to lynch John first, since even if Chibo does take away a vote, town still would have a vast majority

Oh, do we have 8 right now? I thought we had 7...

I'm talking from a vote stand point.

And yes, we have 8 people alive.

Chibo, you've already talked about thinking T-Block and Kantrip could be scum. You had a cop ability at your disposal. But rather than use it and confirm your suspicious, you first take away the vote of one of those players, and then go on to use your one shot cop power ON A TOWN READ. JUST TO BE REALLY SURE HE'S TOWN.

It puts a smile on my face when you've set yourself up for fun stuff like this Chibo

Nevermind @ Chibo lynch then.

Now, you can either lynch me for a mistake in counting the total players, or you could lynch Kantrip for his absolute ****ty play that I have been talking about for the past 2-3 pages. It's up to you all C:.

 

[Pluvia]

It's not that I don't see him as scum, it's just that I see him as less likely to be scum than you atm, but you're both making good points.

I'm going to wait for Guus to post though because I'm hoping he'll find the flaw in one of your posts that I'm missing like his thing he found in John. It's impossible with only the 2 of your words for it, I need Guus here so he can help me look at it from a 3rd party perspective.

And now I really am off to bed. I'm closing this after I write this, it's half 6 in the morning. Goodnight you two.

 

[Kantrip]

"Note that I said this because Chibo and John were 100% connected at the time.

Look at my conversation with Glyph after that.

It went something like this:"

If Chibo and John were connected, why on earth would you say lynch Chibo first, then Glyph, when JOHN IS THE MOST USELESS PLAYER OUT OF THEM.

YOU. ARE. SCUM. DIE.

 

[Kantrip]

Alright Pluvia. Thank you for at least thinking objectively.

I await Guus and hope he can see the glaring scumminess here.

 

[Kantrip]

Joey what are you even talking about? You said the only point you have against me is that I'm "trying to end the day early" which is utter BS to begin with. Try again.

 

[Dooms]

Just making sure you're not some sort of scum double voter or something stupid, Joey.

Oh yeah, I also crumbed my flavour in this post.

That's actually fair enough, Pluvia. I forgot you had a scum read on me earlier. I would like to ask if you could explain it.

I'd like to say that I didn't crumb my flavor since I have no idea who in the hell my guy is or what he moderates.

I'd ALSO like to say that scum have safe claims, so they can crumb their safe claim just as easily as I could have crumbed my flavor.

This is just something else that you're trying to use to convince people you're townie, as if crumbing flavor matters at all in a game where every person has a townie flavor in their role PM.

(If you want to ask why I know this, it's because I know Red Ryu has had experience with one of the god awful games where the safe claims were messed up, and where people would abuse that to ruin the game for everyone. I can't remember the name though. I think J hosted it.)

 

[Kantrip]

I know scum has safe claims because John claimed his safe claim. This is obvious, Joey. It is also irrelevant. Unless you're trying to say Stew is a safeclaim.

Let's see here.... I'll pull up all the flavour we know so far.

 

[Dooms]

"Note that I said this because Chibo and John were 100% connected at the time.

Look at my conversation with Glyph after that.

It went something like this:"

If Chibo and John were connected, why on earth would you say lynch Chibo first, then Glyph, when JOHN IS THE MOST USELESS PLAYER OUT OF THEM.

YOU. ARE. SCUM. DIE.

You're a ****ing idiot.

HELLO?!?!

Note: The below was me assuming that there were 7 players at the time. There were actually 8. I dropped all of this when I realized this.

Chibo could have still had his vote block ability, and I didn't think Chibo was lying. I thought John was probably townie because Chibo was townie (at the time. Then I realized Godfather was possible). I wanted the Glyph lynch at the time because I believed Chibo, but if I was wrong with the Glyph lynch, then Chibo could auto win the game with his vote block ability. Vote block someone, and then 2v2. We're forced into an auto no-lynch situation at best. After that, scum wins on night kill.

Statically at that time, Chibo was the best lynch by far if I thought Glyph was scum.

I like how Glyph saw this, yet you're trying to sell this off as me being scum.

 

[Dooms]

I know scum has safe claims because John claimed his safe claim. This is obvious, Joey. It is also irrelevant. Unless you're trying to say Stew is a safeclaim.

Let's see here.... I'll pull up all the flavour we know so far.

Don't bother. It's WIFOM, remember? That thing you hated so much?

 

[Dooms]

Don't bother. It's WIFOM, remember? That thing you hated so much?

(No, I don't actually care if he does. I'm just pointing out that he's still trying to use WIFOM when he said I couldn't.)

 

[Jim Morrison]

I'm willing to lynch Joey. It's too early in the morning to read up on everything. I investigated Pluvia and my night action once again failed.

 

[Dooms]

I'm willing to lynch Joey. It's too early in the morning to read up on everything. I investigated Pluvia and my night action once again failed.

Read.

Don't vote until you read.

If you vote before you read I swear to god....

 

[Kantrip]

I agree with that. Please, read carefully Guus.

This is what I have so far, too lazy to get the rest:

Mic_128, Vanilla Townie
Sold2, Vanilla Townie
Bionic, Town Jack-of-all-Trades
Xiivi, Town Doctor
Twinkie, Independent Serial Killer
Jungle, Mafia Goon
F8AL, Vanilla Townie




ALSO THIS IS NOT WIFOM IN THE SLIGHTEST. I'm saying you can interpret it how you will and it isn't WIFOM at all. The mod you claimed to be isn't one I'm even familiar with, and that reeks as a safe claim. THIS IS NOT WIFOM.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Read.

Don't vote until you read.

If you vote before you read I swear to god....

Vote: Do-

Juuuust kidding. No, when I get home from school, I'll find scum for us.

 

[Kantrip]

Guus what was your flavour again?

 

[Dooms]

I agree with that. Please, read carefully Guus.

This is what I have so far, too lazy to get the rest:

Mic_128, Vanilla Townie
Sold2, Vanilla Townie
Bionic, Town Jack-of-all-Trades
Xiivi, Town Doctor
Twinkie, Independent Serial Killer
Jungle, Mafia Goon
F8AL, Vanilla Townie




ALSO THIS IS NOT WIFOM IN THE SLIGHTEST. I'm saying you can interpret it how you will and it isn't WIFOM at all. The mod you claimed to be isn't one I'm even familiar with, and that reeks as a safe claim. THIS IS NOT WIFOM.

That is WIFOM. You're trying to get me lynched off of something that is IMPOSSIBLE to be proven true or false through information that we can/cannot confirm in any way, shape, or form, and it shouldn't even be mentioned at all. You're telling me not to use WIFOM, but here you are, being the huge ******* thats going to do what you told me not to do.

By the way, since this IS Red Ryu's game, I will say that it's based on mods that Red Ryu talks to, not the mods that YOU know. If you're going to try to get me lynched off of my goddamn flavor, then I might as well just throw the game right ****ing now, because I was the poor ***** that didn't get ****ing EvilEye or Marshy as my flavor.

 

[Dooms]

Vote: Do-

Juuuust kidding. No, when I get home from school, I'll find scum for us.

>: c

 

[Kantrip]

Here we go. This is what I was looking for.

A heated emotional battle. I was wondering when you would pull out the anger.