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[Pluvia]

I honestly thought this was gonna be like a high risk heads or tails situation, but Dooms 1510 post made so much sense it's unbelievable.

Plus Kantrip if you know how he plays as scum then wouldn't it make sense for you to tell him to play differently if you're his scum partner?

 

[Dooms]

How many of those games was he scum in? Well, I can't speak for ongoing games, but out of the games he has completed, zero.

Well one, because this game.

I'm saying I know his meta as a player, not his meta as scum.



Alright I'll go back and quote when John addressed me, because the count was greater than four.

Oh wait, you're taking out fluffy posts? Well damn, John must only have like six posts total or something.

So you know that he will be the guy to never talk to his scum even though you have NEVER SEEN HIM PLAY AS SCUM?

Okay. I'll bring out every quote that has the word Kantrip in it or references you, and it will still be those same 4(maybe 1 more since I rushed, but I really doubt it).

 

[Kantrip]

I honestly thought this was gonna be like a high risk heads or tails situation, but Dooms 1510 post made so much sense it's unbelievable.

Plus Kantrip if you know how he plays as scum then wouldn't it make sense for you to tell him to play differently if you're his scum partner?

How? Tell me how the **** one of Dooms's recent posts made sense and I will tear it right the **** apart.

If I were scum partners with John then sure I could tell him how to play. But honestly, that would be stupid. The best way for scum to play is using their town meta. I would have told John to play like he does as town. His play this game is not how he plays as town. But of course, this is WIFOM so it doesn't mean a thing anyways.

 

[Pluvia]

Wait I don't understand how can you know how he plays as scum if you've never seen him be scum before?

 

[Dooms]

Wait I don't understand how can you know how he plays as scum if you've never seen him be scum before?

Bing o.

 

[Pluvia]

Ok well Dooms 1510 post.

He ignored Doom but he mostly ignored me and Guus too (I think), but he lied about you and never kept his promise to write about you like he said.

 

[Dooms]

Ok well Dooms 1510 post.

He ignored Doom but he mostly ignored me and Guus too (I think), but he lied about you and never kept his promise to write about you like he said.

Wow. I didn't catch that since I was only reading for Kantrip posts specifically, since he's definitely the scum at this point.

I've made connections. I've looked at your general play when pressure is on you (now). You're scum, and you can be lynched whenever Guus/Pluvia thinks it's fine.

 

[Kantrip]

Ok well Dooms 1510 post.

He ignored Doom but he mostly ignored me and Guus too (I think), but he lied about you and never kept his promise to write about you like he said.

No he did not.

Guus made an entire case against John, and John tried to defend against it. John referred to Guus a lot, and asked Guus questions, and basically did not ignore him AT ALL.

John also referred to you and asked you a couple questions, which is more than what he did with Dooms.

He also said he would read Dooms again and give a read later. HE NEVER EVEN SAID DOOMS'S GOGDAMN NAME AGAIN.

With me, he actually did come back and give a new read. Stop sheeping Dooms, and stop doing it right now. When you KNOW one of us to be scum, you should be checking every point we make if you're going to even pretend to believe it.


Also, I said I know how John plays as a player. I know how he plays as town. I do not know his scum meta besides this game. The point is, I can infer based on his SKILL LEVEL (which I have a very good handle on) how he would act as scum, as well as his personality and reactions when under pressure. Avoiding interactions with a scummate is a common newb-scum tell, and anything Dooms said to refute that, such as "Well he would purposefully not do that to avoid an obvious connection" is just JO_OEY throwing WIFOM in without actually ****ing defending himself.

ALSO A SCUM TELL.

 

[Dooms]

No he did not.

Guus made an entire case against John, and John tried to defend against it. John referred to Guus a lot, and asked Guus questions, and basically did not ignore him AT ALL.

John also referred to you and asked you a couple questions, which is more than what he did with Dooms.

He also said he would read Dooms again and give a read later. HE NEVER EVEN SAID DOOMS'S GOGDAMN NAME AGAIN.

With me, he actually did come back and give a new read. Stop sheeping Dooms, and stop doing it right now. When you KNOW one of us to be scum, you should be checking every point we make if you're going to even pretend to believe it.


Also, I said I know how John plays as a player. I know how he plays as town. I do not know his scum meta besides this game. The point is, I can infer based on his SKILL LEVEL (which I have a very good handle on) how he would act as scum, as well as his personality and reactions when under pressure. Avoiding interactions with a scummate is a common newb-scum tell, and anything Dooms said to refute that, such as "Well he would purposefully not do that to avoid an obvious connection" is just JO_OEY throwing WIFOM in without actually ****ing defending himself.

ALSO A SCUM TELL.

Quote where he gave his new read of you, please.

You don't know his scum meta, so you don't know what he would do as a scummy. It's simply impossible. Especially when it comes to who he's paired up with. You didn't think this through at all. and you're going to bite the dust for it now.

 

[Kantrip]

Pluvia reaffirmed my town read on him now, though. His reactions and responses to this are still townie, so we don't have to worry about Dooms being a mislynch. We just have to lynch him.

You don't know his scum meta either, Dooms. I know his meta as a player far better than you do.

 

[Dooms]

No he did not.

Guus made an entire case against John, and John tried to defend against it. John referred to Guus a lot, and asked Guus questions, and basically did not ignore him AT ALL.

John also referred to you and asked you a couple questions, which is more than what he did with Dooms.

He also said he would read Dooms again and give a read later. HE NEVER EVEN SAID DOOMS'S GOGDAMN NAME AGAIN.

With me, he actually did come back and give a new read. Stop sheeping Dooms, and stop doing it right now. When you KNOW one of us to be scum, you should be checking every point we make if you're going to even pretend to believe it.


Also, I said I know how John plays as a player. I know how he plays as town. I do not know his scum meta besides this game. The point is, I can infer based on his SKILL LEVEL (which I have a very good handle on) how he would act as scum, as well as his personality and reactions when under pressure. Avoiding interactions with a scummate is a common newb-scum tell, and anything Dooms said to refute that, such as "Well he would purposefully not do that to avoid an obvious connection" is just JO_OEY throwing WIFOM in without actually ****ing defending himself.

ALSO A SCUM TELL.

Also, he never said that he would re-read me.

Vinyl. - Wait, Vinyl's in this game? [Would be fine with lynch]
Acro - I like the cases he is providing. [Do not want to lynch]
RocketPSIence - Oh look rPSI is in here too... [Would be fine with lynch]
Chibo - See #393
Pluvia - Noob town, he didn't give up with everyone calling him scum, and instead provided arguments to the contrary. [Leaning NoobTown]
Gustave - I'm going to read him in a bit.
JO_OEY - Made a good case on Kanty, don't have much of a read yet apart from that.
T-Block - I'm leaning town, due to your Vig gambit on Auspher/Pluvia, but after Housepets, I'm very reluctant to label you as so.
Kantrip - Need to read on Kanty too.
Raziek - I really didn't like the back and forth in the beginning, but apart from that, you provide some interesting points...

He said that he would reread YOU. Not ME at ALL.

 

[Dooms]

Pluvia reaffirmed my town read on him now, though. His reactions and responses to this are still townie, so we don't have to worry about Dooms being a mislynch. We just have to lynch him.

You don't know his scum meta either, Dooms. I know his meta as a player far better than you do.

Where did I claim that I knew his scum meta?

All I said is that I know that you didn't look through this whole connection thing at all, since I know for a fact that making your scum mates obvious = a lost game.

How do you feel about your point becoming pointless since Pluvia pointed something out, by the way?

 

[Kantrip]

"How do you feel about your point becoming pointless since Pluvia pointed something out, by the way?"

I don't even know what you're talking about anymore.

 

[Dooms]

Nevermind at pluvia pointing stuff out. Missed the defense since I was focusing at the BS below it lol.

 

[Kantrip]

Pluvia. I think you should re-read for yourself. Don't rely on the things Dooms and I say to each other if you don't have an idea who the scum it.

I want to wait for Guus now, this is just stupid.

 

[Dooms]

Are you saying that this whole discussion doesn't matter to them at all.

@Guus/Pluvia: Please, when you're on a computer, read every post that has been made since the beginning of this day. It will give you a grasp as to what has happened, it shows you what connections have been made between Me/Kantrip and John, and since it's one of us getting lynched, it will be way easier for you both to read this day than to read the whole thread, since it has nearly everything you need.

If you have questions, please feel free to ask me/Kantrip.

 

[Dooms]

By the way, that period at the end of the first sentence is supposed to be a ?.

 

[Kantrip]

Stop ****ing misconstruing everything.

No. That's not what I'm saying.

 

[Pluvia]

Ok yeah this is crazy. But technically, if the only time he mentioned Guus was when he was trying to defend himself from him, it means that he talked to you the most Kantrip, and lied about you and didn't do his read he promised.

I'm going to see if I can track down that new read that you said he did on you though.

Also I'm not voting tonight. I'm going to bed in a sec and I'll be back in about 10 hours or so, but unless Guus votes before me when I'm asleep I don't want to be the last person to vote.

 

[Dooms]

Pluvia. I think you should re-read for yourself. Don't rely on the things Dooms and I say to each other if you don't have an idea who the scum it.

I want to wait for Guus now, this is just stupid.

Then why are you telling him to re-read the thread when we have ALL OF THE INFO THAT HE WOULD NEED?

Why are you telling him not to rely on us when everything that he could possibly use for this decision is in our discussion?

 

[Kantrip]

John addressed me a lot more than you, Dooms. Your "search" was BS.

Let's start with RVS/pre-game:

Vote: Kantrip
He almost never posts, must be a hiding scum...

John brought attention to me in pre-game with this. Basically it means nothing but WIFOM and is just a fluffy convo and John picked me because we've played together so much. But hey, it's more than he communicated with Dooms.

In thread, at least.

What I think will happen:

I will (try to) not sheep.
tPK will forget to crumb for an investigation or something
Gustave will somehow get banned

Spoiler

again

during the game
TB will not be trusted by anyone who was in Housepets.
Kantrip will push hard for my lynch.

Again this is just some pre-game stuff, but I'm in it and this is again more than John ever referred to Dooms.

John2k4 is scum. His posts in this game are out of character for him so far let's lynch him now GOGOGOGO

Help, Kanty's attacking me solely on meta again; he is scum reaching for anything.

Kanty's got two votes on him...he better claim soon.

Just rounding off the pre-game posts between us. You can tell me honestly if you think a scumteam would draw attention to themselves like this. The short answer is no.

Um TB, those were from the Social Hour before the day started... I don't see why you're getting silly over them.

Vote: Kantrip
Of course he's scum, it's Kantrip, after all...

Again this doesn't mean much because it was RVS, but John picked me and it's, again, more than Joey has gotten.

@people with Kantrip meta - is he usually this dumb?

No, he's not.

Kantrip, I'd ALSO like to know why you voted.

What about T-Block's responses makes him scummy?

It's the very start of D1 - everyone's usually a bit silly at this time.

He gets to srsbsnss as the game progresses.

People asked if I'm always this dumb. John was attempting to buddy me with the emoticons and jazz. To be honest, I really ignored it. It's still me and not Joey, though. So I'm showing it for completeness sake.

Hey Kanty, why are you writing TB off as Town already?

A legit question. John is asking me why I'm writing T-block off as town. He wants an explanation from me. This isn't fluffy.

John, show me T-Block's reasoning and what you like about it.

Pretty much saying to Vinyl "I agree with him too".

Kanty, I'll address that in just a bit when I have more time.

I am scumhunting with my questions on John. My intent should be pretty clear. He made a statement and I am forcing him to take a stance a back it up.

@Kanty - This:



I agreed with his pointing out Raz's actions, where IMO he was saying: Raz is Bark not Bite with a TB push.

Here is his reasoning. Basically, he is just sheeping T-block. But that's not the point.

I'll go comprehend that wall of text, but the first thing that comes to mind is this.
Are you writing TB and Raz off as most likely being town, then?

This is responding to a large post I made. Again John asks me if I'm writing people off as town. He is trying to keep mislynch options open, or he is just asking hollow questions. I'm inclined to believe the latter even though the former is smarter.

Players I would be okay with choosing toDay:
Gustave
Teran
Auspher
Kantrip

John puts me in his list of people he is fine with lynching. Sure, he could easily fake this as scum and it's not like the lynch went through or anything, but I'm just trying to pull up his references to me, after all.

Unvote, Vote: John2k4

Why would scum ever do that? If he already got caught up by scumbuddies he would probably post in thread saying he has read or, or just not address the situation in the first place. Saying you don't want to read after replacing in is a null tell that might even lean towards lazy townie (but WIFOM, so it doesn't), and you're beyond reaching trying to say it makes Chibo look scummy.

Try a real lynch target, please.

I'm legitimately pressuring John here. Try to tell me my intent was to distance him as my scummate. I dare you.

My point is, it's Day 1, and with only 300-ish posts (probably a good 1/3rd being pregame shenanigans between TB and Raz), why would he be so opposed to reading?

Kantrip, if you *just* replaced into the game at this point, would you make an attempt to at least skim through and get a general idea as to what's going on for yourself, or would you block your mind out and demand summaries?

Look at how John is defending himself here. This conversation between us should make it CLEAR we are not scum mates. There is much too much attention being drawn to this conversation for you to honestly think this is SCUM VERSUS SCUM. It's not SvS.

Acrostic, I assume you've read everything now?

@John: Yes I would, but that's just me and we can't make assumptions about other people's time or willingness to read through a bunch of pages of a game they weren't involved in. Your justification for it being a scum tell is very off base by assuming not wanting to read = scumbuddies already caught him up.

John I want your reads.

Yeah I was starting to not like John at this point and it's pretty clear. I'm pressuring him, trying to get his reads out of him, etc.

Vinyl. - Wait, Vinyl's in this game? [Would be fine with lynch]
Acro - I like the cases he is providing. [Do not want to lynch]
RocketPSIence - Oh look rPSI is in here too... [Would be fine with lynch]
Chibo - See #393
Pluvia - Noob town, he didn't give up with everyone calling him scum, and instead provided arguments to the contrary. [Leaning NoobTown]
Gustave - I'm going to read him in a bit.
JO_OEY - Made a good case on Kanty, don't have much of a read yet apart from that.
T-Block - I'm leaning town, due to your Vig gambit on Auspher/Pluvia, but after Housepets, I'm very reluctant to label you as so.
Kantrip - Need to read on Kanty too.
Raziek - I really didn't like the back and forth in the beginning, but apart from that, you provide some interesting points...

Here we are. The golden reads list. The only one he gave all game. This reads list is just **** in general, and the fact that John was scum means we should disregard it. But hey, I'll take a gander. Alright so only one scumread that refers us to another post that is pretty badly done. Most of his reads are nulls, including on me, Gustave, and JO_OEY. He basically implies that he needs to look into all three of these players more. Again, he hasn't referred to JO_OEY before this and he never refers to him after this.

John your colour coding is really strange.

But you need less nulls and more scum reads, I think.

I hope you can do those reads on players you need to soon.

Self explanatory. I'm telling him he needs less nulls and more scum reads. Which is true. I'm telling him to follow through on the players he hasn't read. He doesn't follow through.

John, Night Kill speculation is too much WIFOM to be worth getting into in most cases. This is one of those cases.

This is me talking to John, but I felt it deserves equal mention.

I don't see a dodged question. If you're referring to my thoughts on those people, they are as follows:

TB - Well, lynching an indy is good in my book, some of the posts from Twilight made me think it was a bad thing. You could be town.
Chibo - His posts are creepy, but I feel there is pro-town behind them if you ignore the graphics.
Guus - He has yet to comment on any D2 things
Kanty - You get a comment in a bit, I need to read into you.

There is still nothing within John's reads. He contradicts his earlier Chiboscum read and basically says he still needs to read me. I don't see him lying about his read yet, though.

Shoutouts to Acrostic being awesome.

I'm going to be re-reading everything in depth and typing up a bunch of notes. Would it be preferred if I posted them segments at a time (like do each page separately), or dump it all at once when I'm done? Or perhaps I'll just not share it and just post the things that I find important? I'm not sure at this point.

Why would you hold information back?
--

Oh there was something of TB's I had to address...lemme go grab that.

Showing this because it is John responding to me, asking me why I would withhold information. Speaks for itself, interpret it as you will.

Well I would obviously hold anything back that has to do with role speculation, first off. Anything that would either help scum or hinder my efforts to scumhunt are things that one would naturally want to exclude from posting. I guess I'll have to see what ends up being in my notes, because they're going to be a "thoughts as I read" type of thing, a page at a time.

Understandable. I await the notes then.

I think Kantrip is in a play or something, and won't be back until Sunday.

I've been trying to say there was a roleblocker...

And what did they block you from doing [with Kantrip]?

Yeah, John referred to me way more than he did to Dooms. Also, I don't see the "lying about his read on me" thing that you said, Dooms. I think that was just some fabricated bull**** you were trying to get Pluvia to sheep.

I can't believe John didn't say a single thing. Silence is telling, I guess.

Chibo's reaction was interesting, the way he continued to defend his claim and John after he thought John was dead.

Yes I was at a smash tourney, I apologize for neglecting to announce it. Thanks for informing them, T-block.

I also have a family thing for most of today. Announcing VLA this time.

I PULLED A FRICKING EXECUTE GAMBIT ON JOHN AND PRETTY MUCH CONFIRMED HIM AS SCUM.

That is all.

Umm you can go check the "Oops Ignore this" thread Kantrip, but I kinda woke up less than a half hour ago, and have not read through all the overnight talk yet.

Sassy.

But yeah I'm fairly sure there are more than four posts in which John addressed me. Going against the zero he addressed Dooms. I guess one, if you want to count answering a question that Dooms didn't even ask.

 

[Kantrip]

Because Dooms, our posts are naturally biased. If Pluvia re-reads for himself, he can formulate his own opinion.

Why, you scared he'll realize you're wrong?

 

[Kantrip]

Ok yeah this is crazy. But technically, if the only time he mentioned Guus was when he was trying to defend himself from him, it means that he talked to you the most Kantrip, and lied about you and didn't do his read he promised.

I'm going to see if I can track down that new read that you said he did on you though.

Also I'm not voting tonight. I'm going to bed in a sec and I'll be back in about 10 hours or so, but unless Guus votes before me when I'm asleep I don't want to be the last person to vote.

that's not the only time he mentioned Guus. This is why I am telling you to re-read for yourself. Don't make assumptions like that.

 

[Kantrip]

I may as well just put my vote down.

Pluvia and Guus. Neither of you vote until you agree.

Vote: Dooms

 

[Kantrip]

Also Pluvia, as a thought excercise:

Which player do you trust the most out of every single person who was in this game? This includes dead players. If there are multiple, you may state all your most trusted players who were in this game.

 

[Dooms]

Responding to smaller post first.

Pluvia, he responded to you about 2-3 more times than me and he responded to Guus a lot. Drop that please?

Hey, Kantrip, look at it this way:

If they look at our posts, not only do they see the information that they could get from re-reading, but they also see our responses! Your responses to me are what truly make it obvious that you're scum. Pluvia and Guus could both do just fine with reading this past day and realize that you're scum over me just because your responses have been BS'd hardcore.

 

[Kantrip]

That would be the wrong conclusion, because I am not scum. I am incredibly buttfrustrated town, and if they are not completely dense they will read the rest of the thread AS WELL as what has happened toDay.

 

[Kantrip]

Dooms, are you denying that ignoring a scumbuddy is a newb-scum tell?

 

[Dooms]

textextext

Yes, I read all of it.

No where did you defend what I talked about. You just went into this useless "HE DIDN'T TALK TO YOU AT ALL SO YOU HAVE TO BE SCUM~"

Where is this new read, exactly?

He went from wanting you lynched, to saying that he didn't have a read on you at all, to saying that he would read on you. All in Day 1. He was lynched very late Day 2.

Lynching a person that is already a guaranteed lynched isn't a clear at all, and is something that a scummy would do to their scum mates to make people think "Oh, he lynched scum! He should lead the town for us!"

Glyph brought it up before I believe, or maybe it was another game, but look at Inception Mafia. J did the exact same thing as you. He executed X1 D1. Tandora, his other scum mate, was mod killed the next day. Everyone saw him as sooooo townie because of what he did, and he rode to Day 10 because of that before statistics got into play and took him out. Just an example as to how what you're trying to clear yourself off of is actually a common bus tactic.

 

[Dooms]

Dooms, are you denying that ignoring a scumbuddy is a newb-scum tell?

No.

I'm saying that newb-scum tells that involve your scum buddy only work if both scummies are new.

 

[Kantrip]

I don't even know your experience but you certainly haven't been the most competent player. This isn't even being mean, just speculation. Scum tells can be whatever they want, by the way. It's likely you didn't even notice John's paper trail to you by disassociation, and now that I'm bring it up you're trying to WIFOM your way out of it.

So John didn't have a new read on me. But he addressed his read on me again. Does it really matter. According to your logic, all this stuff about John doesn't matter anyways unless both scummies are new, right?

So why don't you tell me why I'm scum based off of things that aren't a connection to John?

 

[Dooms]

That would be the wrong conclusion, because I am not scum. I am incredibly buttfrustrated town, and if they are not completely dense they will read the rest of the thread AS WELL as what has happened toDay.

Why?

What T-block says doesn't matter.
What Glyph says doesn't matter.

The only things that matter right now are me, you, Pluvia, Guus, and John. Everything else is faulty unless someone has some very bad info against me/you. Even then, those opinions aren't going to be NEARLY as important or as accurate as things connecting to John or things that happened today.

Unless you have something that makes me look like complete OBV scum, I'm just going to keep on responding to you, let Guus/Pluvia read, and watch you get lynched.

 

[Kantrip]

Did you... really just say that?

"What T-block says doesn't matter.
What Glyph says doesn't matter."

These are two of the most competent players we have, and what they said matters even MORE NOW. Why? Because they are confirmed town so all of their statements are legitimate town ones. Anyone who thinks they were playing well this game can certainly look back at what they said, and they will be valid.

You are SOOOOOOO SCUMMY RIGHT NOW.

Please guys. Can we just end this game. Lynch me and let Dooms win, or lynch Dooms so we can win.

 

[Kantrip]

Yeah I'm not joining Disco Room games if they're going to make me so angry.

I apologize to everyone (except Dooms, I am too butthurt to apologize to him, I'll do it postgame) for my frustration.

 

[Dooms]

I don't even know your experience but you certainly haven't been the most competent player. This isn't even being mean, just speculation. Scum tells can be whatever they want, by the way. It's likely you didn't even notice John's paper trail to you by disassociation, and now that I'm bring it up you're trying to WIFOM your way out of it.

So John didn't have a new read on me. But he addressed his read on me again. Does it really matter. According to your logic, all this stuff about John doesn't matter anyways unless both scummies are new, right?

So why don't you tell me why I'm scum based off of things that aren't a connection to John?

I've played in at least 15 games. If you want a list, I can give you one after looking through my PM's. I've been playing since 2010 November/December I believe.



Do you REALLY think that I didn't notice that? As soon as I read through John's posts and got those quotes (which, by the way, was before I even suggested it to you), I knew that he didn't say anything to me. I didn't care, because I know that any scum buddy with experience could lead any person out of leaving THAT obvious of a trace to a partner.

Of course I'm using WIFOM. The whole argument is WIFOM. Saying that he didn't make any posts about me, therefore I must be his partner is... WIFOM!!! How do you argue with WIFOM? With more WIFOM. It's just how it works.

It's obvious that neither of us have experience with John's scum play, so neither of us can say what he can/can not do. However, one of us is trying to say that they DO have an idea of what John would play as scum. The other is saying that their buddy, being me or you, has enough experience to say "Hey, make sure you talk about me some. Don't want to leave an obvious trail."

I'll be honest and say that the argument that is involved in the paragraph above is probably one of the worst I have against you. However, you're acting like it's the only thing I have against you. Reading from the beginning of this day shows, however, that that is not the case.

 

[Dooms]

Did you... really just say that?

"What T-block says doesn't matter.
What Glyph says doesn't matter."

These are two of the most competent players we have, and what they said matters even MORE NOW. Why? Because they are confirmed town so all of their statements are legitimate town ones. Anyone who thinks they were playing well this game can certainly look back at what they said, and they will be valid.

You are SOOOOOOO SCUMMY RIGHT NOW.

Please guys. Can we just end this game. Lynch me and let Dooms win, or lynch Dooms so we can win.

They're not part of this game right now, are they?

They're not here. Do you realize that both of our playstyles have changed COMPLETELY since this day has started?

Nothing that either of them or ANYONE prior to this day has on us is legit anymore. You're playing completely different. I'm playing completely different.

The only thing we have now is Me, you, and connections to John. John connections are the only things that we have prior to this day that has any impact on who should be lynched.

 

[Kantrip]

I don't care how many games you've played in, to be honest. It is not indicative of skill, and I don't need to see it.

Accumulate your case on me. My play. No WIFOM. No connection case to someone neither of us can meta.

 

[Dooms]

You are SOOOOOOO SCUMMY RIGHT NOW.

Please guys. Can we just end this game. Lynch me and let Dooms win, or lynch Dooms so we can win.

AtE fight? :3c.

 

[Kantrip]

They're not part of this game right now, are they?

They're not here. Do you realize that both of our playstyles have changed COMPLETELY since this day has started?

Nothing that either of them or ANYONE prior to this day has on us is legit anymore. You're playing completely different. I'm playing completely different.

The only thing we have now is Me, you, and connections to John. John connections are the only things that we have prior to this day that has any impact on who should be lynched.

Wow you are ********.







We out.

 

[Dooms]

I don't care how many games you've played in, to be honest. It is not indicative of skill, and I don't need to see it.

Accumulate your case on me. My play. No WIFOM. No connection case to someone neither of us can meta.

I'm not saying it = skills. I'm saying that after you play in at least two games, you know the VERY basic things as to what to do/not to do as town or scum.

Avoiding your scum partner completely is one of those things.

Pull up a recent(finished obviously) game where a legit scum pair was found due to having NO mention of one another at all. No newbie games allowed. I dare you.