Mixed Bags Tourney: Silent Verse storms all!

[Deleted member]

I'll join in on this one. Count me in. I want to test an idea that I have.

 

[Spire]

Tery, I don't remember the last time I touched a Pokemon game. Though come HG/SS, I'll be hooked on it like flies to fruit.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'll join in on this one. Count me in. I want to test an idea that I have.

Umbreon, I need your Shoddy name. I assume you're Eastern time.

Tery, I don't remember the last time I touched a Pokemon game. Though come HG/SS, I'll be hooked on it like flies to fruit.

That makes me sadface. *Sadface*

Oh well. Also, can I bump the SWF-Dex thread?

-Terywj

 

[SilentVerse]

I guess I'll join this:

Username: SilentVerse
Shoddy Name: Silent Verse
Timezone: MST(-7)

 

[Bowser_Gangsta]

Im really scared, but..

Username: ♫RisqueBlock♫, soon to be Megalomaniac
Shoddy Username: Risque
Time Zone: Eastern (GMT -5)

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Both of you have been added.

Spread the word guys! The more the merrier!

-Terywj

 

[Bowser_Gangsta]

I haven't played in OU so long I forgot Ninjask could be taunted through Sub. My Dreams are rooned

 

[Terywj [태리]]

That's okay, remember there's only 2 OU allowed per team!

-Terywj

 

[Deleted member]

Username: TWILTHERO
Shoddy Username: TWILTHERO
Time Zone: Eastern (GMT -5)

 

[Zook]

I'm in this.

Username: Zook
Shoddy Username: Zook
Time Zone: Eastern (GMT -5)

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Zook!~ *Adds*

-Terywj

 

[Wave⁂]

3. Matches throughout the tournament will be double elimination, best 2-out-of-3. The finals for winners and losers bracket will be best 3-out-of-5.

Just for clarification, this means that there is a loser's bracket? It's a bit confusing when you say "matches" as opposed to "tournament" is double elimination.

 

[Pete278]

Username: Pete278
Shoddy Username: Pete278
Time Zone: Western Australian (GMT +8)

Woo, Australian invasion. I'm going to get so *****.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Just for clarification, this means that there is a loser's bracket? It's a bit confusing when you say "matches" as opposed to "tournament" is double elimination.

Sorry, and yeah there will be a loser's bracket.

-Terywj

 

[Wave⁂]

One last question:

In theory, could we use a team of six NU Pokémon? IE, can a Pokémon be replaced with a lower-tier Pokémon and still satisfy tier requirements?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

6 NU =/= 2 OU, 2 UU, 2 NU.

Allowing that would defeat the whole purpose of mixed tiers.

-Terywj

 

[Circa]

Oh! Oh! I have a suggestion then. Each round, mix up the amount of Pokemon you can have from each tier. Maybe throw an Uber tier placing in there too on occasion. It may seem annoying to have to make a new team every battle, but it adds variety too. Thus, the tournament will be more fun overall. And as long as you set the due dates for battles far enough away, it shouldn't be a huge deal if they have to make a new team each time.

Just my suggestion. You can use it or leave it. Doesn't matter.

 

[Riddle]

shodddy: Rwar
Time Zone: EST

 

[Wave⁂]

Thus, the tournament will be more fun overall. And as long as you set the due dates for battles far enough away, it shouldn't be a huge deal if they have to make a new team each time.

Two of the more interesting tournaments I've seen on Smogon forced players to make new teams each round. Random tournament gave each play eight (?) fully-evolved Pokemon to choose for battle. An item-limiting tournament set specific constraints for item usage.

 

[Circa]

Yeah, I saw both of those too. I wish I could have been looking for tournaments back when that started. It would have been fun.

Also, I lol'd at the guy who got Unown. There's no way he's making it past that round.

 

[supermarth64]

Shush I read every rule except for the last one because I got lazy .

 

[stingers]

Shoddy Username: stingers
Time Zone: EST

 

[Pink Reaper]

Go away Stongers, you're not allowed to do stuff here.

 

[stingers]

Oh...sorry. Take me out then

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Pink Reaper, why is he not allowed to join?

I really like the idea of switching up the amount of Pokemon per tier per round. I think I'll implement it.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Oh no you don't.

I've already made 3 ****ing mixbag teams >

 

[Bowser King]

Pink Reaper, why is he not allowed to join?

I really like the idea of switching up the amount of Pokemon per tier per round. I think I'll implement it.

-Terywj

My only problem with this is that tournies already run so slow with many people going inactive. Having them make new teams/change teams each round may just lead to further inactivity.

 

[stingers]

yeah...i'm having trouble making just one...lol

 

[Circa]

It's not as hard if you've played in every tier a bit, or at least know a bit about each. Something that may or may not help, though, is that no one else here has done this before either. Thus, we're all basically in the same boat of trying to mix these tiers to make something viable, and none of us will really be able to do valid testing either.

The strategy I'd say to use is just choose a couple things from OU that your team can focus on, and then build the rest of your team based on what would normally help them out in OU. For instance, if you need a revenge killer, then find something in UU or NU that is simply a step or two down from what revenge killer you'd normally use. The fact that everyone else will have to do these types of things too means your revenge killer will still be extremely useful, even though it may normally be really outclassed.

Knowing past things that have fallen down to lower tiers could help as well. The reason why is because in most cases, these are the ones that are outclassed, and they're probably your best bet at finding something practical.

This also helps with switching around teams to accommodate tier limits.

 

[supermarth64]

Is this starting before/after the current round of UU/OU suspects?

Should the tier list change before we finish, what do we do with the tiers?

 

[SilentVerse]

Is this starting before/after the current round of UU/OU suspects?

Should the tier list change before we finish, what do we do with the tiers?

This.

Seriously, the UU metagame just finished yesterday, I'm pretty sure today they're nominating suspects, and a week after, voters are revealed, then a week from then, voting. That's one week after the sign-ups for the tournament end. Thus, I think we should wait a bit before doing this tournament, since the suspects are going to be voted on only a week after, and it's not that much of a time to wait.

 

[Oracle]

Can I join?
Shoddy username: Seraphic
Time zone: Central

 

[kewl]

Username: Kewl
Shoddy Username: Kewlie
Time Zone: Eastern (GMT -5)

 

[drcossack]

In?

Username: drcossack
Shoddy Username: drcossack, drcossack - test
Time Zone: Eastern (GMT -5)

 

[CRASHiC]

I want to join but with work I worry I will destroy the tournament

 

[Hobobloke]

Username: Lord Bowser
Shoddy Username: Hobobloke
Time Zone: Western Australian (GMT +8)

 

[Vlade]

Vlade

Shoddy name: Vlade
Timezone: GMT +8 (yeahhhhhhh... )

 

[kirbyraeg]

I want to join! you need noobs to fill slots anyway, but I can at least guarantee I'll be active.

Username: kirbyraeg
Shoddy name: testosterone
Timezone: GMT +8

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Added all the new particpants.

Regarding the UU tier changes - This tournament will use the tiers setup by Smogon as of NOW. Therefore at the current point Cresselia and Porygon Z are UU, etc. Anything that happens during this week with the suspects will be ignored. Tournaments end up lagging due to delayed starts, so I'm making sure this one won't.

And I've decided to keep the set tier rule: 2 OU / 2 UU / 2 NU.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

THANK YOU.

Now my Mixbag teams won't be useless.