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Miracle Of Light - Palutena in SSB4 (Featuring Cereza from Bayonetta-series)

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I think the floating would be reserved for a recovery move, while she just walks/runs as if she's not bothered by her heavy armor. She's a goddess, after all. Perhaps strength comes with the territory?
 

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I know I already noted the possibility in another thread, but I'd like to explore it further. Palutena supporters, what would be your reactions to Palutena and Medusa being semi-clones? Not that I find that particularly justifiable or probable. It's just "clones do happen" type of stuff.
 

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The clone stuff doesn't bother me. What would bother me is Medusa being in this game over any other character. I don't think she belongs, particularly with Sakurai making the decision in Uprising to decrease her importance in the KI series.
 

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I would rather have both and have them be semi-clones than only having one. As a strictly non-competitive player clones don't really bother me very much, though of course I would prefer unique movesets. But if it's a chance to have Medusa & Ganondorf vs. Pit and Toon Link without sacrificing Palutena I'm all over it.
 

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I strongly prefer only Palutena even if she was just a semi-clone, but I highly doubt that she'd be one if she gets in. I just don't think Medusa should be in... Granted, that would be a major push for KI, but I don't think they should go that far. For Palutena's case, at least she's been in all 3 KI games that of which even Medusa wasn't, not to mention she wasn't even the main villain in Uprising.
But before I get off topic, Palutena only for me, don't care if she is semi-clone, though she most likely won't be one, considering that if she did make it, Palutena would be the only character wielding a staff, theoretically speaking. Medusa just doesn't deserve a spot on the roster yet imo. However, she could finally become a collectible trophy that of which she wasn't in Brawl back then if anything.
 

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I don't really see why Sakurai would add Medusa as a semi-clone when there are characters from other series that could be semi-clones instead.
 

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I don't really see why Sakurai would add Medusa as a semi-clone when there are characters from other series that could be semi-clones instead.
I assume you mean the series that have no fighters yet, right? Otherwise your statement could be reversed and make just as much sense.
 

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I assume you mean the series that have no fighters yet, right? Otherwise your statement could be reversed and make just as much sense.
What I mean is, if Sakurai wants to add semi-clones, there are other series that can use more characters before Kid Icarus. I just don't think KI will make the jump to three characters, even with the possibility of semi-clones.
 

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I wouldn't be annoyed if Medusa made it as a semi clone of Palutena but both of them being semi clones of somebody else would be very questionable and I'd rather he not do that. I'm not against Medusa but the priority for me is Palutena.
 

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Huh, this thread's been pretty slow lately. I think Chrono was right when he said that Palutena's supporters, while numerous, are notably quiet.
 

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Well there wasn't much to talk about, and I'm at idea blocks when it comes to making her a moveset. I'm getting them details in, and you may be impressed once I complete it.
 

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Just a question I thought I'd bring up. Should Palutena be allowed to hover? Either as an idle stance, run, recovery move, or in a way similar to Peach.
 

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I've seen some people with icons of Palutena in their rosters that I can't find. I only have the default one for 6.1. Can someone help me out?
 

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Let her walk. She may be a god, but that doesn't make her too good to walk like normal people.
The way I see Palutena working out is that she'd be a slow character, in terms of movement. However, she would make up her slow speed with her long range efficiency.
 

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Welcome to the light, my friend.
*is still working on my moveset for her* ):
 

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Well, whatever you could say about tuna, it is not a subject to side effects of rejuvenating. At least when shredded, that is.

...this reminds they could mess up the fighting whatever team formula with introducing franchise-oriented things like Fighting Vegetable Team, haha. Too bad this one is non-canon.
 

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I think you might want to add a supporter list. Just cause'.
 

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I don't think I've posted here before...

Just to say I support Palutena! I very logical choice for a newcomer... From a series that just had a popular game released, easily the second most important character after Pit, and great moveset potential as well as lots of personality!

Sakurai's modesty is the only thing that could stop her, though it didn't stop him adding not one, but two Kirby characters as well as Pit to SSBB...
 

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I don't think I've posted here before...

Just to say I support Palutena! I very logical choice for a newcomer... From a series that just had a popular game released, easily the second most important character after Pit, and great moveset potential as well as lots of personality!

Sakurai's modesty is the only thing that could stop her, though it didn't stop him adding not one, but two Kirby characters as well as Pit to SSBB...
I agree, but Sakurai isn't the creator of KI, unlike Kirby. The only thing he did for KI is breathed life on it. So I oubt his modesty would get in the way.

The only thing that gets in her way is whether or not KI even deserves another rep.
 

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Posts come from controversy.

Krystal has a lot of posts.
Ridley's thread is too big.
K.Rool is busy talking down Dixie Kong.
Fire Emblem is busy arguing over 151 different potential characters

In this thread, however, there's no controversy. No one doubts that she's the best KI rep, that she would fit in amazingly as a smash fighter in pretty much every way, and that KI could very well get another rep.

There's nothing to talk about. It's all just completely understood "she's got everything going well."
 

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Posts come from controversy.

Krystal has a lot of posts.
Ridley's thread is too big.
K.Rool is busy talking down Dixie Kong.
Fire Emblem is busy arguing over 151 different potential characters

In this thread, however, there's no controversy. No one doubts that she's the best KI rep, that she would fit in amazingly as a smash fighter in pretty much every way, and that KI could very well get another rep.

There's nothing to talk about. It's all just completely understood "she's got everything going well."
I agree. Like I said, it all depends on whether or not Sakurai wants a new KI character, which would make sense. Despite having a quite subtle fanbase, she has everything going for her, which most characters cannot say the same thing.
 

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To be honest, if MOTHER can warrant 3 reps, so can Kid Icarus.
More so KI actually, because it got a huge revival that made the series very important and, according to the Smash 4 trailer, is now one of Nintendo's big 8 franchises.
Mario, DK, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Star Fox, Pokemon, and none other than Kid Icarus appeared in the beginning of the trailer, showing me just how important KI has become.
 

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Hm, so it is one of the 8 big franchises after all. I just hope KI will get more love than just a highly modified Pit and some KI stages (that of which we only seen 1 of)... and a few items, hence the X-bomb. If they have shown Pit in that trailer with those Uprising weapons, I do expect KI to get a 2nd rep, aka, Palutena.
Theoretically speaking to say she was in, I don't think Palutena will be shown for a bit until character voices are done. iirc, each newcomer will get their own little entrance vid as you've seen WFT, Megaman, and Villager have. However, to make Palutena's vid tons effective, she, accompanied by Pit, need to bring some of that hilarious dialogue like they do in Uprising (and messing with Pit) to us. But it could happen December due to 12/19/86 being the KI anniversary, right? If I was to assume when this was to happen, I'd probably say during a December Nintendo Direct. Sure Sakurai could do it on 12/19 this year as it's a Thursday, but he does like to be unpredictable, so... Anytime this December is where I'm putting my hopes up. It'd be a great Holiday gift too if he did reveal the Goddess of Light during that time.
 

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For everytime I hear people say that KI seems a priority franchise/big franchise for Nintendo now, I really feel bad for them. I mean it. In truth, it really isn't. It's just getting exposure due being already under hands of Sakurai before, but no, it's not instantly a big franchise. Especially if it looks like none in Nintendo EAD or even any of Nintendo's subsidiaries has shown much interest on keeping the series going since 1992.

I don't mean to look down on you or anything but so far there's nothing that can get our hopes up about KI actually getting back to Nintendo's interest as one of their go-franchises along with the current ones.
In fact I just still consider the series getting merely lucky as hell (not that it didn't deserve it), but like I said, I hope this won't be all like KI going back to obscurity in truth despite getting exposure. Only time and interest from the other subsidiaries will tell if this series will be kept afloat.
Because really, keep that boulder rolling if you so think it's profitable and would make a great franchise with it's newly-grown fanbase!! Don't just fake us here and truly tell you just don't care about KI aside from Sakurai or Smash Bros, right?

But who knows, maybe after SSB4 it might go even higher off the roof and we might see this franchise getting picked up after all these years.
 

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I worry myself that I probably was blinded. It's still a small franchise but am glad it was revived. I just hope it doesn't die quickly after Smash, for there wasn't much love after OM&M, and the revival began when Pit was in Brawl with the exception of that "hint" in Pit's melee trophy. If it does still pick up after SSB4, then I hope it'll continue to do great.
 

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For everytime I hear people say that KI seems a priority franchise/big franchise for Nintendo now, I really feel bad for them. I mean it. In truth, it really isn't. It's just getting exposure due being already under hands of Sakurai before, but no, it's not instantly a big franchise. Especially if it looks like none in Nintendo EAD or even any of their subsidiaries has shown much interest on keeping the series going since 1992.

I don't mean to look down on you or anything but so far there's nothing that can get our hopes up about KI actually getting back to Nintendo's interest as one of their go-franchises along with the current ones.
In fact I just still consider the series getting merely lucky as hell (not that it didn't deserve it), but like I said, I hope this won't be all like KI going back to obscurity in truth despite getting exposure. Only time and interest from the other subsidiaries
Because really, keep that boulder rolling if you so think it's profitable and would make a great franchise with it's newly-grown fanbase!! Don't just fake us here and truly tell you just don't care about KI aside from Sakurai or Smash Bros, right?

But who knows, maybe after SSB4 it might go even higher off the roof and we might see this franchise getting picked up after all these years.

I completely agree with your post, I think people are way too quick to claim that KI is an important A-list series for Nintendo just because Sakurai revived it (but it does sure in hell deserve to be one, and should have been one in the first place). I do however worry that no one else at Nintendo besides him has interest for the franchise, because after all, it took THIS long for a third KI game to happen, and it was all by chance too. I would loved to be proved wrong.

I don't want to be a downer or anything, but I honestly don't find Palutena or any second KI newcomer as likely as everyone else believes. But what do I know, this is Sakurai we are talking about here.
 

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I don't want to be a downer or anything, but I honestly don't find Palutena or any second KI newcomer as likely as everyone else believes. But what do I know, this is Sakurai we are talking about here.
I hate to think like that, but you're totally right. I think she has a good chance, but she is by no means a shoo-in. I can only hope. I mean, I really want her in the game, but I wouldn't be too upset if she doesn't make it.
 

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I wouldn't be upset but I would be really really sad and bummed, wait i'm lying I probably would feel a little upset. :(
 

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I'd be greatly upset because she's all that I want for newcomers, and possible a great one. :( Come on December, make everyone see the light.
 

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I'd be very disappointed if our favorite Professor didn't get in...

No, not Layton (Wait, him too..) Palutena!
 
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