Miracle Of Light - Palutena in SSB4 (Featuring Cereza from Bayonetta-series)

[8-peacock-8]

So is Amaterasu, but SHE works out pretty well in MvC.

Fixed and there were other god like beings (Shuma Gorath, Dormammu, and a few others) and an actual god (Thor) on the Marvel side.

So MvC is actually a very good example.

 

[Opossum]

All in all, canon power should never be a reason for excluding a character. Look at Mewtwo and Ganondorf.

I really get tired of seeing the "she's a goddess" argument against Palutena (not as much this site, but on others...).

 

[Admiral Pit]

All in all, canon power should never be a reason for excluding a character. Look at Mewtwo and Ganondorf.

I really get tired of seeing the "she's a goddess" argument against Palutena (not as much this site, but on others...).

Agreed. Besides, it's not like Palutena is ruthless with her powers compared to much of the dark/evil characters, though she was possessed during that one arc in the game. Besides, it's not like the characters had all their powers that were true to the games they were in. If they did, Bowser would be bigger with better fire breath and minions he could call out, Samus would have plenty more projectile types which includes the Ice beam thing, and well, no explanation needed for Ganon.

Besides, Palutena would definitely make a great addition to the roster, doesn't matter what others think, and she surely has chances compared to most choices that others have wanted, not that I'm trying to start anything, it's just I look back at the chain of events that can lead to her getting in, and I don't mind posting that post about it from that other thread if I have to.

EDIT: Chose to show it anyways. http://smashboards.com/threads/rate-their-chance-returns-day-4-isaac.337682/page-4#post-15614501

 

[Motor Bug2005]

I've already made my thoughts on Palutena clear in this post from the Rate Their Chance thread: Rate Their Chance Returns! Day 3 - Ridley.

In addition to what I said in that post, I also wonder whether her recent rise in popularity has come too late as I don't know whether her rise in popularity came before or after Sakurai had stopped taking character requests (I know that she was a wanted character before her surge in popularity but I don't know how popular she was then).

 

[Admiral Pit]

Well, Sonic most likely got in the last few months before Brawl's release due to high demand of wanting him in, so the same could be for Palutena, although Sakurai may already had plans of putting her in, that and she's more likely if going by my chain of events from that same thread. After all, he did start on Smash4 right after Uprising was complete, and well, who knows?

 

[FlareHabanero]

Well, the same shouldn't be said for Palutena. Palutena is nowhere near close to the popularity Sonic had, or practically no character for that matter.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Unfortunately so. However, that doesn't mean she's limited as far as her chances go. She's actually a Nintendo character compared to Sonic after all, and I'm still going by my chain of events for her chances.

 

[Zuby]

Adding Palutena just seems so obvious. She's probably the only non veteran who I would be genuinely surprised not to see in SSB4.

 

[Admiral Pit]

I'd be surprised only to prove that I was right, and bust out tears of joy. Just thinking of Pit and Palutena being together in Smash will make much of my dreams come true, that and tons of fanart for her to appear once she's revealed.

 

[Hong]

Character selection is more intelligent this time. It is all about whether or not a character can add something unique, meaningful and fun to the cast while being defining of itself. This has been what has essentially been stated for the direction of SSB4 when we heard the first details about a year ago, and was later stated again in recent interviews. The roster will be all about quality and diversity over quantity.

We all know there are ways to design Palutena so that she is something different from the cast, fun to play, and makes a great contribution to the roster. That leaves a few questions.

1) Has the developer seen a worthwhile vision for the character that makes sense in the grand scheme of the product?
2) Have they already added character(s) that take up too many of her potential assets?
3) Do they have enough time to envision, design, program and play test this character?

I will be realistic and say the chances of Palutena appearing are rather low. She is far from impossible, and I know she has something great to bring to the table. If we have a notably larger roster (which I doubt we will), it is quite likely. But if the overall character selection stays small, it is a question of whether or not the director will want some of the ideas they can come up with for Palutena to manifest within Palutena or in another character from another franchise entirely. Of course I personally would love to see more Kid Icarus, but I am not expecting more than Pit to make an appearance.

 

[DMurr]

1) Has the developer seen a worthwhile vision for the character that makes sense in the grand scheme of the product?
2) Have they already added character(s) that take up too many of her potential assets?
3) Do they have enough time to envision, design, program and play test this character?

I would argue that Palutena being a character that Sakurai just worked on increases her chances dramatically. They made her design for Brawl, to begin with, even if she wasn't a playable character or anything, so the developer (Sakurai) has already been brainstorming and being creative about this character considerably more than the majority of the cast of Smash Bros characters for the last... idk 3-4 years. Also, she has plenty to work with that Sakurai and his team just made, so it's not like they need to put a large amount of thought into her moveset, and perhaps they can even borrow old animations from things like the AR cards or something if they want to cut down on development time, although I'm unsure how much that would really cut out.

 

[Motor Bug2005]

I'd be surprised only to prove that I was right, and bust out tears of joy. Just thinking of Pit and Palutena being together in Smash will make much of my dreams come true, that and tons of fanart for her to appear once she's revealed.

I would like nothing more than for you to be proven right (and I'm sure that most of the people who've posted in this thread would agree with me) but for now, I'm gonna keep my expectations low so I don't get too disappointed if she doesn't make it in.

 

[FlareHabanero]

 

[Admiral Pit]

Hmmm... At least that isnt a ponyfied version. I freaking hate ponyfied characters with a passion.

 

[Opossum]

Hmmm... At least that isnt a ponyfied version. I freaking hate ponyfied characters with a passion.

Well since you asked.


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Although, I will say that the Pit one looks pretty nice.

 

[Deleted member]

Paletuna strikes again!

 

[Admiral Pit]

Well since you asked.


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Although, I will say that the Pit one looks pretty nice.

Already seen that, and Pit may be cute, but Pit and Palutena will ALWAYS be cuter without being freaking ponified. Now Chibi Pit and Palutena are often the best.

 

[Opossum]

Already seen that, and Pit may be cute, but Pit and Palutena will ALWAYS be cuter without being freaking ponified. Now Chibi Pit and Palutena are often the best.

I know, I just wanted to mess with ya.

 

[Admiral Pit]

I know, I just wanted to mess with ya.

Oh sure, tease me like Lady Palutena teases Pit. D:
Wouldn't be surprised if Palutena has a move or 2 that teases Pit (like that comfy hug thing I mentioned before). >.<

Speaking of which, if she was in, you think she'd say something different during her victory pose for beating Pit like with what Fox does to Falco, Falco to Fox, and Wolf to Fox? Same goes for it Pit beats Palutena in a match.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Disregard double post. (I need to stop clicking reply and remember to click edit instead)

 

[loganhogan]

Remember in the anime she summons rain over the vegetables? I think that could be a cool final smash for her too.

Yes

Oh sure, tease me like Lady Palutena teases Pit. D:
Wouldn't be surprised if Palutena has a move or 2 that teases Pit (like that comfy hug thing I mentioned before). >.<

Speaking of which, if she was in, you think she'd say something different during her victory pose for beating Pit like with what Fox does to Falco, Falco to Fox, and Wolf to Fox? Same goes for it Pit beats Palutena in a match.

That would be priceless! I can imagine the silly things they'd say to each other.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Remember in the anime she summons rain over the vegetables? I think that could be a cool final smash for her too.

Yes

That would be priceless! I can imagine the silly things they'd say to each other.

And unlike the space animals, Pit and Palutena's victory poses should look when they talk to each other.
Nice Palutena avy btw. I have that card as well. <3

 

[SmashChu]

I've already made my thoughts on Palutena clear in this post from the Rate Their Chance thread: Rate Their Chance Returns! Day 3 - Ridley.

In addition to what I said in that post, I also wonder whether her recent rise in popularity has come too late as I don't know whether her rise in popularity came before or after Sakurai had stopped taking character requests (I know that she was a wanted character before her surge in popularity but I don't know how popular she was then).

Palutena was popular for a while, about a few months into development. She has been at the top of the US and Japanese list for a while.

 

[loganhogan]

There could also be bosses and stage hazard conversations for Palutena between her and Hades, Medusa or Auntie Pandora would be the best.

 

[Neptune Shiranui]

They should have secret codecs like Snake so Palutena and the other gods can converse while pit is fighting.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well since you asked.


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Although, I will say that the Pit one looks pretty nice.

I had that as an avatar in another forum, Admiral Pit was there, yet he never cared to complain

 

[Admiral Pit]

They should have secret codecs like Snake so Palutena and the other gods can converse while pit is fighting.

Pit with Palutena and the occasional Viridi has my interest. A brief Phosphora moment when Pika's about, or maybe a small appearance by Slippy when the 2nd Starfox character is being talked bout, like what Snake gets talking bout Falco... except better and more hilarious.
Cute avy btw. It shows Lady Palutena's godly bosom well (is thinking bout something naughty again).

I tried to hide the thoughts, Blue. D:

 

[Buci01]

I really expect Palutena to be a playable character. The only newcomer I think is a shoe in. I hope her and Medusa and up playable. Both are on my top two list. Even if the latter was not the main antagonist in the Uprising story, she is still a big player in the Kid Icarus Universe. Both Boss battles showed how much potential both goddesses have. And I still stand by my opinion that the Medusa Boss battle is far more epic than the entire Hades Fight.

While Palutena uses mainly light based projectiles and beams of light (and a staff), Medusa uses eyelasers, Claws, Snake's, petrification, has a mouth in her palm to shoot crazy projectiles (and a staff) and has her unscrewable awesome Gorgonhead. Hades only has warts and zits all over his body shooting balls. So yeah, Medusa and Palutena for Wii U

 

[loganhogan]

If she isn't already i'd like to see Lady Palutena rise among the most iconic Nintendo female characters. I like her character much better than the ladies that are in smash bros. She is memorable and very charismatic, my only hope is that she retains the same voice actress I adapted to it throughout Uprising.

I wish there was a clear image of that to use as a desktop background.

 

[Starbound]

Literally the only thing holding her back is if Sakurai feels he would be shown as biased by including her, since he basically made her who we all know and love.

Palutena would be a fantastic character for Smash 4, and I really hope she gets in. I loved the idea of a heavyweight female with Samus, but I never really felt a good connection to the character, but I know I'd feel one with the hilarious Palutena.

 

[Admiral Pit]

High Middleweight would seem more to be of her weight, not as much as Samus, but still heavier than the others. She'd likely have 2 projectiles, a potential chance to block attacks with the shield on her arm, and some possible kicking moves due to them huge thighs. I mean really, have you seen how big they are?

Needs more Palutena support to gather and have discussions, or just random fun.

 

[Motor Bug2005]

Palutena was popular for a while, about a few months into development. She has been at the top of the US and Japanese list for a while.

I'm sure she is still popular but what I'm trying to say is that in terms of her popularity I don't know if Sakurai has used pre-2012 popularity data to determine his roster choices for SSB4. If he has then IMO I can't see her becoming a playable character despite my desire to see her become one. I mean, how old was the data used to decide Brawl's roster?

 

[SmashChu]

I'm sure she is still popular but what I'm trying to say is that in terms of her popularity I don't know if Sakurai has used pre-2012 popularity data to determine his roster choices for SSB4. If he has then IMO I can't see her becoming a playable character despite my desire to see her become one. I mean, how old was the data used to decide Brawl's roster?

All we know is that, as of now, Sakurai is not taking new request.
He is a pretty smart guy and he's usually spot on with adding the most popular additions. Palutena is popular world wide. The only X factor is she took some time to warm up in Japan, but that may be because we have limited information on them (when ever someone can take the time and research. Chrono's two investigations were very far apart). We'll have to wait and see. This is the point where your not sure anyone is getting in until it happens. I remember being nervous about Olimar during Brawl.

 

[Mirron]

I'd say she seems like one of the more likely characters to be added. Kid Icarus was pretty darn popular after all, I find it hard to imagine Sakurai isn't looking there at all for new characters. And Palutena stands out as the one to add. Name of the series in Japan, immensely popular, plenty of moveset potential. I really find it hard to imagine her not being added. It's not like there are huge numbers of potential people to add, so I don't really see so many people being added that she fails to make the cut.

 

[Starbound]

The only thing I could possibly see holding her back is if Sakurai feels he'd show bias if he includes her (or any KI character for that matter).

That, and her popularity comes from the game that just came out before they started on this one. So it could've been too late.

First one is more of a bigger deal than the second one though. I suppose Palutena isn't technically his character (whereas Kirby is), but I think it's still a possible counter argument for her.

 

[Opossum]

Sad to see that this thread's been on the second page for a while. Definitely a first-page worthy thread.


That being said, I've noticed some more pessimism about Palutena since the E3 reveal. Anyone have possible reasons for that?

 

[Groose]

Sad to see that this thread's been on the second page for a while. Definitely a first-page worthy thread.


That being said, I've noticed some more pessimism about Palutena since the E3 reveal. Anyone have possible reasons for that?

I don't really see why this would be. After all, Kid Icarus was one of the core series in the reveal, and Pit has had work done on him. I'd say E3 was very promising for Palutena, actually.

One thing that I have noticed: Kid Icarus:Uprising is still popular, but it's lost the spotlight. In particular, people seem to be focusing on Fire Emblem:Awakening as the big new game. That may be why Palutena has lost the spotlight.

 

[loganhogan]

Wii Fit Trainer came in when everybody expected Palutena. She isn't the only one many people also expected King K. Rool and the other popular characters. Things got shaken up but still I feel that odds are in Palutena's favor.

 

[Starbound]

So I dusted off Uprising for the first time since... October, I think.

She's just such a brilliant and vibrant character, and I think with how most people reacted to Mega-Man (read as: passing out, screaming, jumping up and down and/or a combination of the above) will be how I'd react to her inclusion.

Staff based combat makes her stick out. Light rays also work in her favor as something unique. Literally the only move she'd have that could be similar to someone else's would be Centurion Assist (similar to Dedede's).

High popularity worldwide is something that I think makes her a strong candidate. She's like one of four characters that tops the charts worldwide (Palutena, Mewtwo, Roy and King K. Rool), so I think that has to count for something.

Palutena for Super Bash Sisters for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS!

 

[StupendousMike]

While your average Nintendo character doesn't have a whole lot of depth, the reason I've always been drawn to them is that they're practically overflowing with personality. Mario, Kirby, Diddy Kong and what have you. This is the primary reason I am in full support of our friendly neighborhood Goddess of Light. In Uprising, she and Pit became some of the most thoroughly entertaining and personable Nintendo characters I've ever encountered. So... Palutena for Smash 4!