Mini Mafia

[#HBC | J]

Captain America, Town Hero.

If someone were to hammer me, they would be lynched instead of me. I kind of wanted to keep this under wraps.

Uhm excuse me, I believe you have my role and I would kindly like to have it back.

Kay thanks.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Captain America, Town Hero.

If someone were to hammer me, they would be lynched instead of me. I kind of wanted to keep this under wraps.

We force someone to lynch you and see if this works.

You ok with this?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Go for it.

 

[#HBC | J]

I can see the benefit of trying it out but it feels more like "Why try and lynch town?" logic confusing me.

If anyone, I'd like Ditzy to do it.

 

[Jdietz43]

I just PM the mod after a majority has been reached and the lynch stops. I just have to get it in before the flip is posted.

@J: No u

 

[Kantrip]

I wonder what would happen if we got Ditzy to hammer Soup and then cancel the lynch. Would we still get confirmation that Ditzy was the one who had been lynched?

What were our three investigatives again?

 

[Fynal]

kantrip, i think bombing anyone in this situation is really dangerous because if we don't get scum when you bomb, we're gonna have tons of potential scummies the next day

i also agree that we should have someone try to hammer soup

reading stuff, sec

also, on a thouroughly unrelated note,

NOOOOOOOOOo000000000000000OOOOOOWHYYYYYYY TSM WHYYYY DAMMIT WHyyy...

!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*(#$%^&*(#$%^&*(#$%^&*(!@$&$!&&$&#!#&$&#!$)#$)*!*)

 

[#HBC | J]

Voyeur, Coroner, and Creepy Follower

 

[Jdietz43]

Hmm, I doubt it. We'd probably just be told it was stopped.


Soup, is your power one shot?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Kantrip is bombing someone today or he gets lynched, I don't believe his claim at all.

 

[Fynal]

for reference

I am David Gregory Phillips, Town Coroner.

Once each day, I can investigate one flavor role and see what actions were used on them. This requires that flavor role to be dead. So if, say, soup dies, I can investigate his flipped flavor role, and see what was used on him in that life, but I won't get anything used on Soup in his new reincarnation(s).

Creepy Eye Girl, Town Follower.

If someone used a day action during a day I can learn each action they took during the day.

It's this girl from Dexter's Lab.

Depends haha, if it will sort things out more, I may be up for it.

Ya know what, doesn't really matter.

I'm Town Voyeur.

 

[Fynal]

I am (still) immensely bothered by J's role, and how close it is to mine, and how it doesn't really warrent the D1 instamassclaim that Xonar wanted to use it for.

 

[#HBC | J]

RR, I am bugged a tad. Why are you only focusing on people's claims in a game where the roles are completely obscure and also the fact that it is going to be completely random. I mean, you aren't focusing on scum-hunting or looking at Kanty's actions but more just looking at his claim as a reason to lynch him.

I sweaaaar, the scum is in Ditzy/RR/Fynal.

 

[Jdietz43]

Kantrip bombing J...

I'm jus' sayin'

We could definitely do that.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hmm, I doubt it. We'd probably just be told it was stopped.


Soup, is your power one shot?

Not going into details about this, I was going to use this a mechanic to scumhunt.

 

[#HBC | J]

Ditzy, you haven't even explained why I'm scummy.

You just keep saying it over and over like it will actually do something. ;P

"Lynching" Soup while having Ditzy hammer while Ditzy then tries to stop his own lynch, then Kanty bombing RR. Sounds like such a better plan.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

J, I agree with you more and more that I don't like Red Ryu, however, him pushing Kantrip on his bomb claim is slightly RR town, I don't think Kantrip actually has the ability and I think RR was to test it. RR, despite Kantrip not or not having the ability, what do you think about Kantrip in general? Is he scum because of his ability or is there something that I'm not aware of? You haven't been very open about your reads, and have been focusing on the mechanic of things.

 

[Fynal]

my current opinion is that J hammers soup and kanty bombs dietz.

RR null to me atm, his play is off but my gut says hes harmless.

 

[Jdietz43]

my current opinion is that J hammers soup and kanty bombs dietz.

RR null to me atm, his play is off but my gut says hes harmless.

That's a waste of my govorner when I can just prove myself easily by stopping a lynch.

 

[Fynal]

actually wait

i like first part of J's idea better, dietz hammers soup and then prevents his own lynch. I was concerned that dietz might be fakeclaiming that due to having a mafia role that does the same thing, but I can't think of a mafia role that does the same thing.

that leaves us with a lot more townies alive

 

[Fynal]

no i dont think its a waste

we're also testing soup's claim

 

[Fynal]

(herpdederp ninja)

 

[Fynal]

dietz i assume your ability is 1-per-day?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hey, just a heads up

Roles don't clear a person.

Why are we doing this?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

There's no benefit for scum to fake-claim something, Roles aren't important in a game like this where people just come back with a different one, there's hardly any point to test all this and waste them for the time being, I don't get why we're pushing this ballot and not focusing on lynching scum instead.

 

[Jdietz43]

Just once period.


Since when Soup? Reincarnated roles are random, but roles are still important to current alignment. If we hit scum first try we don't have to keep playing.

 

[Fynal]

i disagree soup

certain roles, particularly ones which stop lynches (you and dietz) don't strike me as things that mafia would get, ever

however, i think theres a problem with this plan

once we know that soup's role works, is there going to be time for dietz to cancel the lynch? ...my guess would be no

 

[Kantrip]

The names of the roles don't help.

Fynal can see what actions were used on a dead player.
J can see what actions were used on an alive player.
Red Ruy can see what actions a player used.

My role doesn't need to be confirmed as it can confirm itself.
Ditzy's role doesn't need to be confirmed as it can confirm itself.
Soup's role is a passive and can also confirm itself.

Negatownie most likely chose one of townKantrip/townRR/townDietz for their ability that makes them more likely to become negatownie simply because the three of us are the easiest to lynch. Just something to keep in mind.

Now, we can try to confirm as many abilities as possible this way: Lynch Ditzy and have him override it. Get our next lynch target to hammer Soup. Have Fynal investigate their body. Have Red Ruy investigate Fynal. Have J also investigate Fynal to confirm Red Ruy. After all that is said and done, I can bomb someone as we lynch our next target, assuming we didn't find the negatownie the first time.

 

[Jdietz43]

Well, I have to get it in before the flip, so I doubt we'd be told it was being redirected before then.

I think our best bet might be to have me cancel a random lynch, then play with the Kantrip and Soup roles afterwards for killing scum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Just once period.


Since when Soup? Reincarnated roles are random, but roles are still important to current alignment. If we hit scum first try we don't have to keep playing.

No they're not.

What does scum gain from a fake-claim or claiming something that is out of their real power? Nothing. Role powers and Role claims don't clear anyone, A scum can have any role and anything is a possibility.

Stop trying to beat the mod at his own game, Circus claimed cop for crying out loud in Epic Rap Battles.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

The names of the roles don't help.

Fynal can see what actions were used on a dead player.
J can see what actions were used on an alive player.
Red Ruy can see what actions a player used.

My role doesn't need to be confirmed as it can confirm itself.
Ditzy's role doesn't need to be confirmed as it can confirm itself.
Soup's role is a passive and can also confirm itself.

Negatownie most likely chose one of townKantrip/townRR/townDietz for their ability that makes them more likely to become negatownie simply because the three of us are the easiest to lynch. Just something to keep in mind.

Now, we can try to confirm as many abilities as possible this way: Lynch Ditzy and have him override it. Get our next lynch target to hammer Soup. Have Fynal investigate their body. Have Red Ruy investigate Fynal. Have J also investigate Fynal to confirm Red Ruy. After all that is said and done, I can bomb someone as we lynch our next target, assuming we didn't find the negatownie the first time.

All this does is completely negate our role-powers, I don't see anything that confirms anyone besides if they're lying about their ability. What part of that don't you understand??

 

[#HBC | J]

Doubly agree with Soup.

We really should be lynching players off of play>claims.

Vote: RR
Vote: Ditzy

Pleeeease? <3

 

[Fynal]

...soup

meh

alright

i say to start we lynch dietz and have him stop his own lynch. that way we get him automatically if his claim is false

 

[Jdietz43]

No they're not.

What does scum gain from a fake-claim or claiming something that is out of their real power? Nothing. Role powers and Role claims don't clear anyone, A scum can have any role and anything is a possibility.

Stop trying to beat the mod at his own game, Circus claimed cop for crying out loud in Epic Rap Battles.

... You realize we did beat the mod at his own game there and you just countered your own point, right?

Scum won't claim a role they don't have or can't fake. That doesn't mean they'd get one that's not meant for or gamebraking for scum to have. Starting roles were not specified to be random, nor was "random" specified to be completely random. I doubt we'll be seeing a Jester etc., get me?

 

[Fynal]

or i could get ninja'd again

 

[Fynal]

J are you down for a dietz lynch?

 

[Kantrip]

Well Soup, what good are our three investigative roles' powers in the first place?

 

[Fynal]

nevermind, obvious question. sorry.

@mod: request votecount

 

[Fynal]

DIETZ are you ok with lynching yourself to prove your role? like, right now?

 

[Jdietz43]

Sure go for it.