Mini Mafia

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Leaning on disliking Ditzy for his entrance because he voted Xoni and then said Xoni/Fynal were coming off worse but did not explain it that much, but Xoni does have a point with Ditzy not knowing about the shot thing but for me, it's Ditzy, he literally could just brain-lapsed and walked into some freebie town points because he did the same in Shining Force II. Sooo he's null for now.

Doubtful, tbh. I'll crack JDietz if he gets too out of line, but for now he's not a focus right now. I'm more or less still waiting on Kantrip to post because half of my spew I had with Xonar was concerning him and his apparent gambit.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

considering we are dealing with day actions unvote, Fyn I don't want a scum vote forcing role killing potential town.

Unvote.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yeah, like they would really risk that.

 

[Ramen King]

D1 Begins!

Vote Count

J (2): Jdietz, Fynal
Jdietz (0):
Kantrip (0):
Red Ruy (0):
Soup (0):
Fynal (0):

Not Voting (4): Kantrip, Red Ruy, Soup, J

It takes 4 votes to lynch! ​

 

[Fynal]

...arbitrary vote forcing role? do people make those? sounds gamebreaking and stupid as hell.

aiite ryu. But i want you to do what I asked before, and read my 1187 and tell me what you think of my theory.

heck i'll even be the gentleman and go first.

unvote

 

[Fynal]

i'm gonna be out hiking in the woods until...late tonight i guess

despite unvoting for the sake of ryu's paranoia, i think J is scum atm. I've yet to conceive an explanation for why townXonar would do what he did.

 

[Jdietz43]

J lynch is the way to go. I don't think I'll be satisfied with the slot until it's died to prove itself and clear away Xonar's touch, and I doubt anyone else will argue with that.

 

[Jdietz43]

@Jdietz: how many mafia games have you played? just out of interest

Not sure how many it is at this point, let me think... 5ish completed and counting?

 

[#HBC | J]

If I am lynched, Ditzy, that is just silly logic because of two things.

1.) you lose a town PR
2.) I would have a possibility of turning into a negatownie which would hurt town's odds even more.

@Fynal: I can't convince you of why Xoni did what he did because I honestly don't agree with what he had to say but he just seemed gung-ho on Soup because Soup disagreed with his logic. Don't know what else to say really.

 

[Jdietz43]

Yeah, but that's why we've got to lynch you. No one can account for what Xonar did without assuming it was with scum intent, and he replaced out. We need to clear the air on that slot more than anything else right now.


If you want to claim you can go for it.

 

[Kantrip]

...let me get this straight

you're town aligned, with a 1shot ability that kills you and one person of your choice? how would using such an ability without being very sure of a person's scummyness help town at all? your just shuffling two people's alignments, significantly increasing the number of possible scum

fos: kantrip


(also, @whoever, how does mafia kill people if theres no night? daykill? no mafia kill?)

Gross.

Vote: Fynal

 

[Kantrip]

Fun fact: If my claim was true, it is impossible for it to be a Negatownie role as it would kill me in the process of killing something else, thereby ending the game.

J got the reference though. Still reading.

 

[Kantrip]

I just ****ing did. How am I not being clear here.

I think Kantrip is bull****ting.
I don't think he would actually claim his role like this.
I doubt a negatownie would put themselves in the spotlight like that at first glance.
The way people use their roles are more telling than how they are claimed.

Fair.
Untrue but I understandable.
Null due to WIFOM and people sometimes having the guts to do stuff like that. I like that you think that though, and I'll gladly accept townreads.
Cool.

Because I don't want to ****ing do it? I'm done with this thread until Kantrip posts.

Did you want clarification on whether I was bull****ting or not?

 

[Kantrip]

I call you scum based on you failing to help town advance, asking empty questions, ignoring logic, dancing around issues and spreading doubt within a page of this game starting. I explained why I wanted to massclaim in the post I suggested it, don't think I pull friggin batman gambits every damn game, you overly suspicious poopyhead.

In this very post you are misconstruing my actions. "You refuse to [...] see my point of view". My ***.

I don't need a scum for sheep, Soup. I don't mind being arrogant, it's part of my game. I can lynch people on gusto and I will. The only issue here is that you, Ruy and Kantrip are all in the stage where you don't sheep for the sake of not sheeping, which is sucky for now and takes some belt-beating to get past.

I'm thinking TvT between Xonar and Soup. Xonar's not really reaching, his points are legit. I just think he's wrong, idk.

 

[Jdietz43]

So Kantrip, you're actually claiming to be a suicide bomber?

 

[#HBC | J]

Yeah, but that's why we've got to lynch you. No one can account for what Xonar did without assuming it was with scum intent, and he replaced out. We need to clear the air on that slot more than anything else right now.

If you want to claim you can go for it.

You don't have to do anything Ditzy. "can't assume beside scum intent" what? That's not true at all and I don't get why you are trying to just focus on the scum-intent without looking for possible town intent.

Lynching my slot won't clear any air, in fact, it will probably fuddle it even more.

I'm not claiming either until it is 100% certain that it is that or get lynched.

 

[Kantrip]

@J:

his reasoning is either nonexistent (w.r.t me) or has too much setup wifom in it for my taste (w.r.t J/xonar slot).





this stuff sucks. he gave no reasoning about why he thinks i look bad, and his reasoning for xonar consists of.... in red: "your scum because i'm sure the setup would make scum do what you do" and in yellow: "your scum because you're being stupid"

Still dislike Fynal. JD is town.

 

[#HBC | J]

I like the Fynal dislike.

I don't get the DitzyTown reads from Soupa/Kanty but hmm.

 

[Kantrip]

Yeah JD, and when we come up with two scumpicks I'll hammer one and bomb the other and we'll win.

@J: Why do you like the Fynal dislike?

 

[Kantrip]

Ewwww. Red Ruy is trying to avoid wagons on the premise that he's worried about roles.... He also didn't comment on my opening post, I thought he'd be the one to clarify that or something.

Might put him as number 2.

 

[Kantrip]

@Fynal: Rather than telling people to explain their thoughts if they DON'T want to lynch J, why don't you lay out why we SHOULD be lynching J?

 

[#HBC | J]

I kind of like Fynal but I don't know for certain yet.

Here is why. I know I didn't specify it too well but I like Fynal but I can see where someone can dislike him. His points this game are reaching while trying to also be somewhat stubborn on certain points like his Ditzy/J suspicion where he isn't trying to look at things through multiple angles but just doing things to do things. A point I liked about Fynal was the fact that he moved off of Ditzy when he didn't get the response he was looking for but his vote on me is something that I don't like either.

I also do not get where he has Soup as town especially since Fynal was thinking that he disliked Soup earlier on and the flip was not really shown in thread.

Fynal just reads as "weird" at the moment and don't know if I want to have him as town or scum yet. I like him, but don't haha. It's such a weird thing to explain.

 

[#HBC | J]

Fynal-Ditzy-RR

One of them is the nega-townie. Now to figure out which one of these 3 it is.

33.3% chance, better odds than before.

 

[Jdietz43]

If that's really your plan, then I suggest we make it Fynal and J.

I'm good with Ryu and Soup so far, that'd leave me and them alive to count for the wincon.





@J: It's going to be that way most likely. You're the issue that needs resolving right now. I'll re-read, but I'd rather in a game where we can check right here and now what Xonar was angling for we do so.

 

[Jdietz43]

EBWOP: That was directed at Kantrip

 

[Kantrip]

J, talk to me about Ditzy. I believe you have some experience playing with him, or seeing his play? Why is he in your fave 3?

There's three of us who agree with Fynal being in the two. Want RR and Soup's opinions.

 

[#HBC | J]

@J: It's going to be that way most likely. You're the issue that needs resolving right now. I'll re-read, but I'd rather in a game where we can check right here and now what Xonar was angling for we do so.

I can tell you that angle right now.

It was town angle. ;P

Your locked on mode of me "having" to go is silly and it does not make a lot of sense at all. Are my actions scummy? You haven't pointed this out but instead you keep clinging to the fact that Xoni was playing not that well as a reason for me to be lynched.

Xoni's actions were not that scummy but just wrong. The scummiest thing that he did was try and push a quick-lynch on Soup for not agreeing with him.

Ditzy, you also are not realizing the fact is that my lynch will not resolve things and will still keep a question mark over my head regardless of things. I am going to flip town, and then acquire a new role pm just like D1 again.

And it isn't "most likely" going to be that way. The day has just begun and not everyone is raving to lynch me like you+Fynal are and are actually trying to look for scum instead of this slot that had a bad start due to Xoni's theory.

 

[#HBC | J]

J, talk to me about Ditzy. I believe you have some experience playing with him, or seeing his play? Why is he in your fave 3?

In our last couple of games I have been able to read Ditzy every game correctly so I feel I have a good grasp on his play. (I.e. Celeb/Epic Rap Battle *nailed him as scum*, pushed him in his newbie because he was a town threat, and that's all we have really played) He is in my fav 3 because he is trying to warp town into the mentality that "J has to go" and there is no other option for toDay. He isn't really looking for scum-intent but trying to sweep things aside as "most beneficial" for town instead of actually who is scummiest in the game.

He is in my fav three because I don't like him this game and I know I'm town, I like Soup/Kanty as town and then the rest are PoE/don't like.

 

[Jdietz43]

I think you forgot to mention that I was town and you were scum in our newbie, and you died, and I lived.

You are the scummiest slot in the game, still are.




J it's not really a matter of most likely, I'm telling you it's going to be that way. At the end of the day only my vote matters.

 

[Jdietz43]

So yeah, claim k? K.

 

[#HBC | J]

I think you forgot to mention that I was town and you were scum in our newbie, and you died, and I lived.

It was implied but yeah I died because Bardull just decided to shoot me haha.

You are the scummiest slot in the game, still are.

How? No one has shown how I am scummy.

J it's not really a matter of most likely, I'm telling you it's going to be that way. At the end of the day only my vote matters.

Well I'm telling you it's not going to be that way. And I am not claiming and your vote isn't the only one that matters. It's the majority of town's decision to lynch who they believe is scum.

So yeah, talk to me about how I am scum.

 

[Jdietz43]

What Xonar did was scummy, your deflection now is scummy, and I want your slot cleared.



No J, you're not listening. I'm telling you my vote is the only one that matters.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ewwww. Red Ruy is trying to avoid wagons on the premise that he's worried about roles.... He also didn't comment on my opening post, I thought he'd be the one to clarify that or something.

Might put him as number 2.

Avoiding? I want J dead, but I don't want people to be Marshy about this.

Opening post was due to all of my posting being on smash mobile, except for the one I made this morning or at 3 AM when I got back from a MTG draft and Brawl/League.

 

[#HBC | J]

Deflection? I am simply pointing out the lack of a case on me. You say Xonar's actions were scummy, the fact is they were not.

And if you are trying to crumb a role, no me gusta with the empty threat. ;P

Come on with the come.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

He started an unnecessary confrontation and wanted Soup dead for not wanting a mass claim which is ******** as hell.

He played hypocrite while going back and forth with Soup saying, Answer mine sorry will not answer your questions, when he had no cred to his name for a lick of trust.

Dislike intently.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also the fact he claimed investigative when I'm an investigative.

 

[#HBC | J]

I agree to the first point, it was really bad what Xoni did. However, you are subjecting yourself to believe dummy=scummy which isn't the case.

RR, I also back Xoni's claim of an investigative, it's a weak one but one that makes sense in this game.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Shall we trade claims in the open? Or would you rather wait?

 

[#HBC | J]

Depends haha, if it will sort things out more, I may be up for it.

Ya know what, doesn't really matter.

I'm Town Voyeur.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Creepy Eye Girl, Town Follower.

If someone used a day action during a day I can learn each action they took during the day.

It's this girl from Dexter's Lab.