Mini Mafia

[Axel]

Ranmaru prod.

 

[ranmaru]

*Picks up prod* Will post tommorow or Friday guys working on a paper. : 3

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

o y hello there



Why do you need to "clarify in a bit?" Why not clarify now?

Uhhh, I clarify literally one paragraph down. It goes along with that accusation of you having a "scummy mindset," as you would of needed the idea that scum could shoot for the accusation to work.

I guess I'm ok with this, but from my point of view, I see gun/shooting talk as filler and pointless, so I naturally didn't feel inclined to talk about it. I also know that, if you were scum, you wouldn't give yourself away easily, so I assumed you were joking when you told me to shoot Ran.

So wait, legit question, you WERE thinking this far ahead when you made your 437 you thought "Oh, I don't want to talk about shooting cus it's just filler and thus pointless?"

Now, was I right to assume you were joking, or did you really mean for me to shoot Ran? Unless it was intentionally meant to be a gambit, which is odd considering I don't see the town intent for the gambit. There is no question in my mind that you're going to say the former, so the point you're trying to make is a dead end street, so I don't know why you're pushing it.

Yes, I totally meant for you to shoot Ran. It would of cleared me and it would of basically fleshed a scumdull out.

However, I wasn't expecting you to shoot Ran, but that's okay. I got to see your reaction to my proposition, and that's fine by itself. If you can't see why I'm pushing what I am than you need to think harder about it.

"This is why you already pretty much knew scum could shoot goes along with it." No, I actually pretty much didn't know...at all. I had a feeling, but it wasn't 100%. Not to be disrespectful, but making assumptions about another person's train of thought is rude and arrogant, but I wouldn't call it scummy per se. I suggest you get off the high horse immediately however, it's bothersome and distasteful.

I'm not assuming, I'm simply looking at what was actually said. I never said that you KNEW, I simply said that you had an idea.

Also, on an aside, I'm not arrogant, or at least not anymore than the average human being, and I'm not on any high horse. Everything I said this game was either my thoughts/pressure/RVS.

[QUOTEI was being sarcastic. This is an odd response. You didn't actually feel better about me just because I said I was town, did you?[/QUOTE]

I was referring to this:

Anyway, this is the very reason that I suspect Ranmaru at the moment. He has failed to address you or tried to get a feel for you so far, thus leading me to believe that he is the individual who is trying to get you to shoot myself.

when I said "yes, perhaps." Can see though why you might of thought that I was referring to you claiming town so my apologizes.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Ok, so you say here that you're bothered by Ran's post, but then you don't analyze or question Ran's play. Why?

Wait, what? I HAD analyzed Ran's play. What do you call that paragraph you just quoted? Also I had questioned Ran's play before, just not then. Why not? Because I didn't have anything I wanted to ask him. Jeez

What? You've lost me here. I never committed to a scum read on you or even said you were scum as of yet. Poking and feeling you up isn't necessarily the same as me omgus'ing/forcing a me vs. you situation. You're going to extremes here, and I'm not sure why. You need to explain this mindset of yours and how you're approaching myself and Ran. It's too aggressive.

Yet you hold "suspicion" against me? What's the difference?

My "mindset" is to attack you, see how you react, and then evaluate it. Aka pressure.

Also before you ask "Why didn't you attack Ran?" it's because you were the first one there TO attack, and you've already been attacking Ran for me.

I haven't dropped suspicion of you yet, which is why I'm still asking you questions even throughout my questioning of Ran and after. You say you're not satisfied, but what are you not satisfied with? This is also inherently bothersome to me, because I'm not interested in satisfying your quota. I have Ran as my scum read, but that doesn't mean I won't my stance given how you respond; I'm still flexible.

Not satisfied with how you've approached me after attacking Ran. I.e. not satisfied with your scumhunting. Wasn't referring to "my quota" at all and I have no idea how you got that from what I was saying.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Btw Bardull that offer to shoot Ran is still totally up there. I'll love to be in the clear.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Oh and yes I AM going to be asking Ran some questions . . . later. Gotta go do some math and stuff.

 

[BarDulL]

Uhhh, I clarify literally one paragraph down. It goes along with that accusation of you having a "scummy mindset," as you would of needed the idea that scum could shoot for the accusation to work.

Ok, but I didn't, so you were grasping there.

So wait, legit question, you WERE thinking this far ahead when you made your 437 you thought "Oh, I don't want to talk about shooting cus it's just filler and thus pointless?"

Hmm. Sort of. Gun talk just didn't click for me when I read your post, and my rationale is that it doesn't necessarily do much to talk about flavor/mechanics. I mean, ask yourself, was it really worth talking about? Would you have gone out of your way in my shoes to talk about it? I wouldn't.

Yes, I totally meant for you to shoot Ran. It would of cleared me and it would of basically fleshed a scumdull out.

My intelligence is insulted here. But I'm Town, so good attempt I suppose.

However, I wasn't expecting you to shoot Ran, but that's okay. I got to see your reaction to my proposition, and that's fine by itself. If you can't see why I'm pushing what I am than you need to think harder about it.

I can see it, but it's not enough to clear you. It's more likely that you were phishing for me to shoot as scumdull, but I'll tell you right now that I have SOME social awareness going for me, and I know exactly what it would look like if I shot right then and there. You underestimate me if you really are Town.

I'm not assuming, I'm simply looking at what was actually said. I never said that you KNEW, I simply said that you had an idea.

So...where does this leave us? I wanted clarity, that's all.

Also, on an aside, I'm not arrogant, or at least not anymore than the average human being, and I'm not on any high horse. Everything I said this game was either my thoughts/pressure/RVS.

Suit yourself.

when I said "yes, perhaps." Can see though why you might of thought that I was referring to you claiming town so my apologizes.

Cool beans.

 

[BarDulL]

Wait, what? I HAD analyzed Ran's play. What do you call that paragraph you just quoted? Also I had questioned Ran's play before, just not then. Why not? Because I didn't have anything I wanted to ask him. Jeez.

Well, if you agree that his play there was suspicious, it would make sense for you to ask questions. Your "analysis" seemed more like a quick glimpse of the facts and back to more pressure on me. Odd, peculiar.

Yet you hold "suspicion" against me? What's the difference?

Suspicious and Scummy are two different things. Well. Sort of. Kind of. Hypothetically, if I had a town lean on you, that doesn't mean there aren't loose ends that haven't been tied up.

My "mindset" is to attack you, see how you react, and then evaluate it. Aka pressure.

ORLY? So grasping and overextending at me are your attacks? I guess they were fair, but I feel as though I've parried them really easily.

Also before you ask "Why didn't you attack Ran?" it's because you were the first one there TO attack, and you've already been attacking Ran for me.

Oh boy, so my would-be scum hunting, the scum hunting you're presumably not satisfied with, is satisfactory enough for you to not attack Ran. Hrm.

Not satisfied with how you've approached me after attacking Ran. I.e. not satisfied with your scumhunting. Wasn't referring to "my quota" at all and I have no idea how you got that from what I was saying.

Too bad. I've been poking at you both primarily to flesh out reads and thoughts, if that's not good enough for you (which it sounds like it is good enough for you since you don't feel the need to attack Ran), then I can't help you there.

 

[BarDulL]

Btw Bardull that offer to shoot Ran is still totally up there. I'll love to be in the clear.

Fine.

@Ran - I'm going to shoot you depending on your next couple posts. Or if you don't post, I'll shoot. I want you to answer Sword's questions. Cool beans? Cool beans.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Wow Ran you're inactive.

Could you seriously be scum? Don't make all that tunneling I did of Bardull for naught.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

FOS: SWORDS CUZ OMGUS!

I really laughed out loud when I saw a FOS RAN and I'm like.... wtf?!?!?!?! Why am I getting FOS'D WHEN I NEVER SIGNED UP??? xDDDD

It's all good tho. I'm ready to roll.



I like this. It shows you were trying to put Bardull on the spot to see if he would committ to his own proposal. (Like a "Try me " type of thing) It seemed he failed at that tho.



I don't think it's a good idea for us to use our shots before we have gotten reads on each other. Basically a person getting daykilled is equal to a person getting lynched. Two people need to agree to that person being shot. It's just permanent votes really.

Seeing as how last game we didn't need our shots (because we all used it on everyone else) we don't need them. We can agree to use them as a lynch tho.

Well I took your initial posts as jokes, it didn't give me a read on alignment tho.

Bardull Sword's question is null. It's a old Dgames thing where people ask if you are scum or not. Really it doesn't help in finding scum, but it is done to see what people say.

So I'm rereading Ran's play and I've noticed this again. Previously I stated that I disliked this but upon Ran's town flip in a newbie that does not exist I'm changing my mind. Now I'm only taking this as null, as in this non-existent game Ran did more of less the same thing (throw at a town read without a good reason) which he caught heat for.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

EDWOP: Am only referring to the first quoted post btw, multiquoted as I was going to analysis his other posts to, but I decided to do so in another post.

Again I'm bad at deleting unneeded things.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I don't see why you fluffed up your statement here and without even saying "Of course I'm town".

Saying "I am BarDulL" doesn't answer the question either.

What is your opinion on Swords?

Null. Same line of thought as me but he's riding my coat tail.

Well I took your initial posts as jokes, it didn't give me a read on alignment tho.

Bardull Sword's question is null. It's a old Dgames thing where people ask if you are scum or not. Really it doesn't help in finding scum, but it is done to see what people say.

*thumbs up* Ran knows what's up

I can see that. It's fine to joke, but you probably should try to get serious a bit earlier because you can use that as a mask. I don't buy the "Not being a pig by saying 'I'm town'" thing tho. What's up with that?

I will do so. I JUST now got into the game man. I was damn sleepy when I noticed I WAS IN THIS GAME lol.

Although Swords pointed out you didn't really question why he asked for you to shoot me first. What did you think of that? (Him asking you to go first)

You also state that his response to you was a form of 'omgus'. Why exactly do you think it is an omgus to you?



I just got into the game, I'll be providing content.

Like this line of questioning.

Ok yeah but here you say that you wouldn't do so, so I thought it wasn't a euphemism for saying that you weren't scum.

Why would you say this and then describe that part of your answer to be basically saying "I'm town"?

Back, feel better. Was in the hospital for a bit too. (For asthma)

Yeah, I have a slight town read on Swords. I see he was trying to gauge you for reactions, to garner a read. You were sort of laying back and 'joking' around to cover for you inactiveness. Rather, inability to scumhunt.

You shoot out questions like "Hey you shoot this guy, I'll flip a coin, and GG" but that didn't get us anywhere at all.

Him saying "Are you scum?" is null in itself. I wouldn't find him townie for it, nor scummie.

But his overall play, has been trying to garner a read. You, have not done so. You have been laid back.

Why are you grossed out by my town read on him?

I don't see that. I have seen goofing around, that has gotten you no where with reads.

Now tell me, where have you tried to 'garner' a read? Did it get you a read?

Like these posts to.

So yeah Ran if you weren't being so opportunistically inactive ("opportunistically inactive" in the sense that you've just kinda let me and Bardull fight it out while you stayed in the backround recently) than I totally would have you as a straight up town read.

@MOD: Request prod on Ran.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Nah, that wasn't him feeling up on me. That was him just R'FSING like you coined it. Even upon entering I FOS'D Swords back with OMGUS so obviously you weren't thinking in terms of those anyways.

The type of 'feeling up' I'm talkin' bout is Swords questions to you like "Are you scum, Bardull?"

That type of feel would require me to be in the thread, or require me having posted at first. Of course, at the time I could only get a feel on you since you were there and posted recently, not Swords. Ya... feel me bro?

So you saying that seemed like you were focused with a... one track mind, and were trying to make me seem like I was the one trying to focus on you ONLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO. But I didn't even have the chance to interact with Swords. This is the only thing I don't like about ya. Ya... feel me bro?

Also keep in mind you and I post a bit more than Swords, so there is more of a chance of us interacting then with him. Luckily you were able to in RFS as coined by you.. and I wasn't. Oh well.

The only thing I dislike about Swords is his question to me about my question to you implying that I had a suspicion about it... When I never stated that. He accused you of being scum for not coming to the conclusion of what he thought a townie would do, and wasn't looking at your whole play. Just your reactions to his questions.

Thoughts on this?

@First bolded paragraph: I'm having trouble following what you're saying Ran. Are you accusation Bardull of making it seem like you're only trying to focus on him? Also, this the only thing about Bardull that you're suspicious of? I thought you said that you didn't like how he was joking around when he should of been scumhunting?

@second bolded paragraph: I don't know why you're suspicious of that, I simply thought me and you were thinking the same thing since you asked him a question that related to my accusation of him.

Also at the time the game literally just started so I don't know how you'll expect me to look at his entire play.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I don't think I had any questions for him at that time. So from my pov I wouldn't have needed to.

Slipped? How so? How am I trying to cover it up?

Who said I never had a town read on Swords?

Why is it scummy? What is the scum motivation for buddying? Can town use buddying as a tool?

Ran what's the point of this line of questioning?

I like your thought process here.

There are two types of buddying yeah.

One where as scum, you use to make false bonds with townies.

The second, where you as town try to make a friendship just so that you guys can work with each other to avoid the stress and the hate and the war and the UGHHHH SHUT UP and see the intentions in the long run.

Like his thought process as in you think he's more townie for it? Or no?

 

[Axel]

Ran prod activated.

 

[ranmaru]

@First bolded paragraph: I'm having trouble following what you're saying Ran. Are you accusation Bardull of making it seem like you're only trying to focus on him? Also, this the only thing about Bardull that you're suspicious of? I thought you said that you didn't like how he was joking around when he should of been scumhunting?

@second bolded paragraph: I don't know why you're suspicious of that, I simply thought me and you were thinking the same thing since you asked him a question that related to my accusation of him.

Also at the time the game literally just started so I don't know how you'll expect me to look at his entire play.

Yes, I am. Notice how he is latching on to whatever he can grab. (For life) I did, it seemed a bit too... laid back.

I wasn't, I was curious as to why he didn't come to the same conclusion as you. I wouldn't have known if it was suspicious or not unless he didn't have a good reason to avoid pursuing the option you saw him neglect.

 

[ranmaru]

Ran what's the point of this line of questioning?



Like his thought process as in you think he's more townie for it? Or no?

My point was in trying to see how HE understands buddying, because his accusations on me seemed pretty newbie when considering his view point on buddying.

I liked it as in he had an idea of what buddying was. That had nothing to do with his intentions and I don't think it would really show if he was town/scum.

 

[ranmaru]

I was busy with school, guys. I was not just busy here. Sorry about that. (Finals)

 

[BarDulL]

Way to ignore the points in my previous posts, Swords.

 

[BarDulL]

Ran, I'm going to shoot you in my next post. Give me a scum read and a town read.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Boom. Headshot.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Sorry Bardull but I didn't feel like responding to you at the time.

Ok, but I didn't, so you were grasping there.

Yes, I was. But there ain't a better way to start a game by exaggerating pressure if you ask me.

Hmm. Sort of. Gun talk just didn't click for me when I read your post, and my rationale is that it doesn't necessarily do much to talk about flavor/mechanics. I mean, ask yourself, was it really worth talking about? Would you have gone out of your way in my shoes to talk about it? I wouldn't.

So no, the thought to talk about shooting did not cross your mind at the time (clarity)?

Yes, I totally meant for you to shoot Ran. It would of cleared me and it would of basically fleshed a scumdull out.

My intelligence is insulted here. But I'm Town, so good attempt I suppose.

I can see it, but it's not enough to clear you. It's more likely that you were phishing for me to shoot as scumdull, but I'll tell you right now that I have SOME social awareness going for me, and I know exactly what it would look like if I shot right then and there. You underestimate me if you really are Town.

*ahem* You still haven't got it.

But there ain't a better way to start a game by exaggerating pressure if you ask me.

So...where does this leave us? I wanted clarity, that's all.

Pretty much where I started.

Suit yourself.



Cool beans.

other stuff

So wow Ran is still lurking it up. Answered my questions then just scampered away. All logic is telling me that Ran is scum but man Bardull still smells. What do?

 

[BarDulL]

Dislike your indecisiveness at the end of your post. Looks like you're trying to keep your options open while setting yourself up as the end-all decider. But I can't see this ending any other way under these circumstances. Hopefully, you're Town. If not, you actually played not too shabby. Didn't like the over extensions or the grasping, but you're right that exaggerated pressure is good (but it's also bad since you seem suspicious for grasping at a scum read, especially in 3 way lylo. It may be forgivable on D1 in a normal game.)

Hopefully, Ran's scum. My general outline of his play looks like this: tried to agree with Sword's early on and to push me off, thinking I would die pretty easily. Never questioned swords and exaggerates my reactions to try and convince Swords that I'm scum. In all likelihood, didnt' want to contest Swords with me as the sole decider because he felt it would be easier to accomplish. ALSO went v/la in this game while he's participating in other games, which I remember him doing in SF2 as scumRan. I didn't see any of the TownRan tells that I'm accustomed to either.

 

[BarDulL]

Shoot: Ranmaru

 

[BarDulL]

Whoops, it's actually

Daykill: Ranmaru

Forgot what the command was since this game has apparently been going on for 3 weeks.

 

[Axel]

After 2000 years of bickering, one of the bulletproof vigilante monk ninja cyborgs decided he couldn't take it anymore. He grabbed his gun-sword and BAM!

Ranmaru, ???, has been shot!
But what's this? He's still alive!

Vote Count
Bardull (0)
Sworddancer. (0)
Ranmaru (0)

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch!

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Whoa look at that I'm town.

Was honestly just stalling to see if Ran was going to post soon, but meh, he's not.

Guess I have the next 24 hours to decide who to shoot.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Actually, I'm okay with this:

Daykill: Ran

Still don't like his reactions to my pressure, however his reactions have been consistent throughout the game besides from some of his weirder early ("Swords has a dagger. Maybe a sword, but probably a dagger" <-seriously what was up with this?) ones. Normally wouldn't like the fact that he shot first because any townie OR scummie shouldn't want to shoot first, but the fact that this game has been going on forever kinda makes the point null and he's right that his shot of Ran has been in the making for awhile.

I actually like Ran's earlier line of questioning, but he just kinda stopped and wasn't consistent. Also I don't buy his inactivity johns at all, like it's a 3 man game and you've been keeping up with much larger, nonexistent games kid. I know we shouldn't dwell into the WIFOM territory of calling fake V/LAs but it's whatevers. Bardull's point against Ran is kinda legit in that he mostly was just riding my coattails this entire game.

Really though, the main reason I'm shooting Ran is because Bardull has been posting in a consistent style regularly throughout this game while Ran hasn't really done nearly as much scumhunting and is, I believe, faking inactivity.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Still don't like his reactions to my pressure, however his reactions have been consistent throughout the game besides from some of his weirder early ("Swords has a dagger. Maybe a sword, but probably a dagger" <-seriously what was up with this?) ones. Normally wouldn't like the fact that he shot first because any townie OR scummie shouldn't want to shoot first, but the fact that this game has been going on forever kinda makes the point null and he's right that his shot of Ran has been in the making for awhile.

Was referring to Bardull in this paragraph btw.

Also another reason I don't like Ran is, like Bardull said, he never really questioned me. This is inconsistent to his play with Werekill who was also super aggressive right from the gecko, but when he did it and Ran was town Ran gave him heat for it. Here Ran just defaulted that I was "more townie cus I was trying to get a read," without any real evidence to back that up.

 

[BarDulL]

I was Town. High five.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c2Vb7CqTdc

 

[Axel]

Good God. You guys did it yayayayayaya

2100 more years later another of the monk ninjas decided they had been at this back and forth for too long. In one swift motion from his gun-sword he shot at the now bulletproofless monk that was shot at 2100 years earlier.

BAM!

"BAAAAAAAAAAH!!!" the monk ninja let out a loud shriek as the bullet hit.

[glow]Black ooze[/glow] spilled from his wound as he began to steam and melt. Not before long, all that was left of the "monk" was a puddle of muk

Ranmaru, mafia 1-time bulletproof dayvig, has been shot!
Bardull & Sworddancer, town 1-time bulletproof dayvigs, win the game!

 

[Pink Lemonade]

I'm still busy guys lol.

Was no lie tho...

I'm doin school work now. Sorry for my bad play here... ;-;

 

[Axel]

Yeah it was fake. All the times you were playing LoZ or posting in other threads mmhm.

 

[ranmaru]

Well. I was procrastinating. I just had a Final exam today that I procrastinated on. Anyways good play guys.

I just went with attacking bardull cuz I had to bro. ;o

 

[BarDulL]

T-rex not related, but still cool as ****.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I actually had a lot of fun playing this game. "Fun" isn't something I've gotten out of mafia in awhile.

 

[Vinylic.]

/in

Minigames are more suitable for me, I suppose.

 

[Axel]

1 more for game 3

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'll play. Leggo.