Mini Mafia

[#HBC | Dancer]

Hey Bardull, are you scum??

 

[BarDulL]

Could be. It's possible. They say I'm a scary, intimidating dude. 6'2 height. The nose of an aristocrat. The deathly stare of a warmonger. It wouldn't be much of a peculiarity if the marvelous form you see before you turned out to be the boogie man himself.

But I am not the boogie man. In fact, I'm the man that turns on the light. The one who opens the bag of cheetos. The one who pierces the illusions of mankind's greatest weavers of deception and wrings them by the neck using a noose.

I am BarDulL.

 

[BarDulL]

Now tell me Swords, what did you expect out of your question? Did you think I would slip? Did you think I would say something that would be downright suspicious? If so, why were you so forward with your question? Why not be more subtle? Less distinct? It is not good to be so forward with your intentions when you ask a question like that. In fact, it may have been too forward. Especially for someone with red dice. Do you have an explanation for that?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Bardull I asked you that question to see your reaction. Also after you answered I thought it would be a good jump of point to point out this:

THAT'S SO TEMPTING.

But I kinda have to wait though. I broke my wrist yesterday and I just can't pull the trigger right now. Nerves are messed up right now.

Mafia CAN shoot though, right? Just double checking and stuff since it isn't necessarily confirmed anywhere. Granted, it would be kinda dumb if they couldn't.

I wonder, what was going on in your head when you made this post? You more or less knew that scum could shoot, it just wasn't "confirmed" to you. Not shooting Ran is obviously the smart choice to do, and I don't think either of us were really expecting the other to shoot so soon, so okay. However, it's still strange that you don't bring up in this post anything about why it might of been weird for me to suggest that you shoot Ran first. Sure, I might be town just trying to get scum to shoot first, but even so, why not bring it up? Seems like bringing up the issue of scum shooting would be the natural response. So why not?

Also you're response to my question is weird. Too wordy, and you're leaving the possibility of being scum open in it. If you're town, you're town, so why respond with "Yes, I could be scum?"

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Okay I don't know if it's just my computer but

point to point

why is the word "point" being underlined for me?

 

[ranmaru]

FOS: SWORDS CUZ OMGUS!

I really laughed out loud when I saw a FOS RAN and I'm like.... wtf?!?!?!?! Why am I getting FOS'D WHEN I NEVER SIGNED UP??? xDDDD

It's all good tho. I'm ready to roll.

Yeah definitely, shoot Ran for me and I'll finish him off for ya, mkay?

I like this. It shows you were trying to put Bardull on the spot to see if he would committ to his own proposal. (Like a "Try me " type of thing) It seemed he failed at that tho.

Alright, I have an idea.

Ran, you shoot Swords. Swords, you shoot Ran. Then I'll flip a coin and shoot one of you. GGnoRE, etc, life goes on, and we have a giant party afterwards about how awesome I am. Deal? Deal.

I don't think it's a good idea for us to use our shots before we have gotten reads on each other. Basically a person getting daykilled is equal to a person getting lynched. Two people need to agree to that person being shot. It's just permanent votes really.

Seeing as how last game we didn't need our shots (because we all used it on everyone else) we don't need them. We can agree to use them as a lynch tho.

 

[BarDulL]

Bardull I asked you that question to see your reaction. Also after you answered I thought it would be a good jump of point to point out this:



I wonder, what was going on in your head when you made this post? You more or less knew that scum could shoot, it just wasn't "confirmed" to you. Not shooting Ran is obviously the smart choice to do, and I don't think either of us were really expecting the other to shoot so soon, so okay. However, it's still strange that you don't bring up in this post anything about why it might of been weird for me to suggest that you shoot Ran first. Sure, I might be town just trying to get scum to shoot first, but even so, why not bring it up? Seems like bringing up the issue of scum shooting would be the natural response. So why not?

Also you're response to my question is weird. Too wordy, and you're leaving the possibility of being scum open in it. If you're town, you're town, so why respond with "Yes, I could be scum?"

"I more or less knew?" That's relatively scummy for you to put words in my mouth, Swords. I didn't actually know if scum could shoot or not, hence why I was asking for clarity. Isn't it a little too early to be trying to paint me as scum? Is that a cleverly disguised OMGUS to my questioning of your play?

Anyways, my points still stand that your "reaction test" wasn't cleverly disguised; obvious, your intentions were, wouldn't you say? Would Town Swords actually do this?

Your problems with my post are a bit of a stretch; I'm not going to spend my time pointing out every detail of your post that sits wrong with me and be so forward about it. I have to keep some things to myself, you know? But by the by, we were still in RFS (since voting means certain death here, so FoS takes the place of Vote in RVS), so my questions/responses so far (up until my questioning of your 'reaction test') were done in a joking/trollish fashion. That was made pretty evident by my "flipping a coin" post, wouldn't you agree? I simply assumed the same for you. Are you telling me that you were, in fact, being serious that you wanted me to shoot first?

My response isn't too wordy. You're simply reading too much into it. Or scum goggling. Probably the latter. I was being clever during RFS, but you seem to be construing it as a scummy and pushing it as such. Either way, I'm going to hear more from Ran first before I shoot you. Or him. Probably you though. Maybe. We'll see.

I could be scum from either of your point of views. I'm not nearly pig headed enough to tell you that "I'm town" and expect the Town player to believe me.

 

[BarDulL]

Ran, you damn ninja. One second, going to read your post.

 

[BarDulL]

Just a note to you both, I can be very, very sarcastic, if that isn't already evident.

 

[ranmaru]

Could be. It's possible. They say I'm a scary, intimidating dude. 6'2 height. The nose of an aristocrat. The deathly stare of a warmonger. It wouldn't be much of a peculiarity if the marvelous form you see before you turned out to be the boogie man himself.

But I am not the boogie man. In fact, I'm the man that turns on the light. The one who opens the bag of cheetos. The one who pierces the illusions of mankind's greatest weavers of deception and wrings them by the neck using a noose.

I am BarDulL.

I don't see why you fluffed up your statement here and without even saying "Of course I'm town".

Saying "I am BarDulL" doesn't answer the question either.

What is your opinion on Swords?

 

[ranmaru]

Just a note to you both, I can be very, very sarcastic, if that isn't already evident.

Well I took your initial posts as jokes, it didn't give me a read on alignment tho.

 

[ranmaru]

Bardull Sword's question is null. It's a old Dgames thing where people ask if you are scum or not. Really it doesn't help in finding scum, but it is done to see what people say.

 

[BarDulL]

I don't see why you fluffed up your statement here and without even saying "Of course I'm town".

Saying "I am BarDulL" doesn't answer the question either.

What is your opinion on Swords?

Depends on the mood. At that very moment, I was in a fun, creative mind set. I'm in a relatively more serious one now, if that tickles your fancy. Or does it not?

Right now, Swords is suspicious to me, but not scum. Not yet. I'm getting a feel for him. However, I want you to contribute more and get up to speed before I'm comfortable moving forward with my FoS.

 

[BarDulL]

Bardull Sword's question is null. It's a old Dgames thing where people ask if you are scum or not. Really it doesn't help in finding scum, but it is done to see what people say.

You're being helpful, I suppose, but I'm not sure if you're just being generally nice, or trying to provide lack luster content to play up to my side, or Swords'.

Or if you think I'm a blistering idiot.

 

[ranmaru]

Depends on the mood. At that very moment, I was in a fun, creative mind set. I'm in a relatively more serious one now, if that tickles your fancy. Or does it not?

Right now, Swords is suspicious to me, but not scum. Not yet. I'm getting a feel for him. However, I want you to contribute more and get up to speed before I'm comfortable moving forward with my FoS.

I can see that. It's fine to joke, but you probably should try to get serious a bit earlier because you can use that as a mask. I don't buy the "Not being a pig by saying 'I'm town'" thing tho. What's up with that?

I will do so. I JUST now got into the game man. I was damn sleepy when I noticed I WAS IN THIS GAME lol.

Although Swords pointed out you didn't really question why he asked for you to shoot me first. What did you think of that? (Him asking you to go first)

You also state that his response to you was a form of 'omgus'. Why exactly do you think it is an omgus to you?

You're being helpful, I suppose, but I'm not sure if you're just being generally nice, or trying to provide lack luster content to play up to my side, or Swords'.

Or if you think I'm a blistering idiot.

I just got into the game, I'll be providing content.

 

[BarDulL]

But I am not the boogie man. In fact, I'm the man that turns on the light. The one who opens the bag of cheetos. The one who pierces the illusions of mankind's greatest weavers of deception and wrings them by the neck using a noose.

I am BarDulL.

Ran, this was a euphemism. It's basically saying "I'm Town." Fluff wasn't necessary, I was feeling creative and fun about my responses. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[ranmaru]

I could be scum from either of your point of views. I'm not nearly pig headed enough to tell you that "I'm town" and expect the Town player to believe me.

Ok yeah but here you say that you wouldn't do so, so I thought it wasn't a euphemism for saying that you weren't scum.

Why would you say this and then describe that part of your answer to be basically saying "I'm town"?

 

[BarDulL]

I can see that. It's fine to joke, but you probably should try to get serious a bit earlier because you can use that as a mask. I don't buy the "Not being a pig by saying 'I'm town'" thing tho. What's up with that?

I will do so. I JUST now got into the game man. I was damn sleepy when I noticed I WAS IN THIS GAME lol.

Although Swords pointed out you didn't really question why he asked for you to shoot me first. What did you think of that? (Him asking you to go first)

You also state that his response to you was a form of 'omgus'. Why exactly do you think it is an omgus to you?



I just got into the game, I'll be providing content.

Ran, as much as I appreciate your advice, I'll play Mafia my way. If it doesn't work, so be it, and I learn my lesson, and life goes on. If it does, then scum dies, Town wins, and we get wasted. Mkay? Mkay. Sorry, it's not that I think I'm better than you, it's that I want to feel like I'm on an equal playing field with everyone else. I don't like being regarded as a "noob." Treat me like you would treat Swords. Advice will be taken after the game's over, of course.

I haven't committed to saying Sword's response was an OMGUS. I'm saying that it could be. If it was for sure, I'd be pushing for it. This is what I mean by "trying to get a feel for him." I'm trying to get a feel for what he's packing; it could be a fencing blade, or perhaps a broad sword? Or a dagger. Probably a dagger. I don't know yet.

I already answered that question, Ran. Check my earlier post. I thought we were on the same page and just joking around during RFS.

Ran, what do you think of Swords? Anything seem off to you? What do you think about what I've said so far about him?

 

[BarDulL]

Ok yeah but here you say that you wouldn't do so, so I thought it wasn't a euphemism for saying that you weren't scum.

Why would you say this and then describe that part of your answer to be basically saying "I'm town"?

Mmm, Pizza.

Like I said before, I don't expect the other Town player to believe me based on me exclaiming "I'm Town" alone. The euphemism itself was merely for creativity and fun, not a full throttle attempt at convincing anyone that I'm Town. Yes, by my logic, saying "I'm Town" is useless if I don't believe it wouldn't work to my advantage to say it. But either way, I still need to respond to Swords' question, so I may as well do it in a way that will be fun for me. Because if the game isn't fun, why play?

I'm just trying to have fun with the game as I go. Seriously.

Now, Ran, Swords, town reads anywhere?

 

[zapp brannigan]

Sorry will get to this soon got a lil sick

 

[ranmaru]

Back, feel better. Was in the hospital for a bit too. (For asthma)

Yeah, I have a slight town read on Swords. I see he was trying to gauge you for reactions, to garner a read. You were sort of laying back and 'joking' around to cover for you inactiveness. Rather, inability to scumhunt.

You shoot out questions like "Hey you shoot this guy, I'll flip a coin, and GG" but that didn't get us anywhere at all.

 

[Axel]

Dang man glad you're better.

 

[BarDulL]

Back, feel better. Was in the hospital for a bit too. (For asthma)

Yeah, I have a slight town read on Swords. I see he was trying to gauge you for reactions, to garner a read. You were sort of laying back and 'joking' around to cover for you inactiveness. Rather, inability to scumhunt.

You shoot out questions like "Hey you shoot this guy, I'll flip a coin, and GG" but that didn't get us anywhere at all.

Didn't you say Sword's reaction "test" was null? Little grossed out by your town read on him, lmao.

 

[ranmaru]

Him saying "Are you scum?" is null in itself. I wouldn't find him townie for it, nor scummie.

But his overall play, has been trying to garner a read. You, have not done so. You have been laid back.

Why are you grossed out by my town read on him?

 

[BarDulL]

Him saying "Are you scum?" is null in itself. I wouldn't find him townie for it, nor scummie.

But his overall play, has been trying to garner a read. You, have not done so. You have been laid back.

Why are you grossed out by my town read on him?

You're putting words in my mouth here.

I don't have a town read on swords. If anything, null. You're grasping.

 

[ranmaru]

I'm not putting words in your mouth.

 

[BarDulL]

Yes you are. You're saying I haven't been trying to garner a read.

Still grasping.

 

[ranmaru]

I don't see that. I have seen goofing around, that has gotten you no where with reads.

Now tell me, where have you tried to 'garner' a read? Did it get you a read?

 

[BarDulL]

Goofing around in RvS is unheard of? That's how it all starts. Why are you pushing me on something we both know is common at the beginning stages of any game?

You guys are good, so I don't have anything solid. It's a little too early in the game for anything like that. The point is that I have, in fact, been trying to get reads. I think both of you are townish in your own ways, but I can't immediately trust both of you since one of you is scum, and the other is just trying to get a feel for both players.

You haven't really been trying to get a feel for Swords though, and you're just hell bent on me it seems. So I would say you're more likely to be scum at this point, trying to push the less experienced player out of the game.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Y3S B4DU11, TH4TS IT, F33D M3 YOUR SCUMMY D3LIOUSN3SS.

"I more or less knew?" That's relatively scummy for you to put words in my mouth, Swords. I didn't actually know if scum could shoot or not, hence why I was asking for clarity. Isn't it a little too early to be trying to paint me as scum? Is that a cleverly disguised OMGUS to my questioning of your play?

Ah, but you did more or less know. You yourself said that you were "just double checking and stuff" in your 437, meaning that you already suspected that scum could shoot.

Also I'm not painting you as scum, you're doing that to yourself bro. Also I'm not just focusing on you, Ran's in my mind to, your just the focus as of now.

Anyways, my points still stand that your "reaction test" wasn't cleverly disguised; obvious, your intentions were, wouldn't you say? Would Town Swords actually do this?

So you're only attacking me for how I carried out my method? Even if you predicted my intentions, you still would have modified your behavior accordingly. I'll like to get you to respond to weird things so I can drewll on it.

Also, what's up with that gross "Would town Swords actually do this?" question? Besides from the fact that you hardly know me, it's generic as ****.

Your problems with my post are a bit of a stretch; I'm not going to spend my time pointing out every detail of your post that sits wrong with me and be so forward about it. I have to keep some things to myself, you know? But by the by, we were still in RFS (since voting means certain death here, so FoS takes the place of Vote in RVS), so my questions/responses so far (up until my questioning of your 'reaction test') were done in a joking/trollish fashion. That was made pretty evident by my "flipping a coin" post, wouldn't you agree? I simply assumed the same for you. Are you telling me that you were, in fact, being serious that you wanted me to shoot first?

I do not doubt that you were simply joking. It's the fact that you AVOIDED talking about the town/scum perspective on shooting first that bothers me, despite the fact that we opened up for that discussion quite nicely with our previous posts.

My response isn't too wordy. You're simply reading too much into it. Or scum goggling. Probably the latter. I was being clever during RFS, but you seem to be construing it as a scummy and pushing it as such. Either way, I'm going to hear more from Ran first before I shoot you. Or him. Probably you though. Maybe. We'll see.

I could be scum from either of your point of views. I'm not nearly pig headed enough to tell you that "I'm town" and expect the Town player to believe me.

Hmm still don't like that you're afraid to simply say you're town but I won't pursue this point anymore because I can't really see it going anywhere else.

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Ran, what makes me town trying to garner a read over scum simply trying to push a mislynch?

Also, I have my own reasons, but tell me WHY you believe

It's the fact that you AVOIDED talking about the town/scum perspective on shooting first that bothers me, despite the fact that we opened up for that discussion quite nicely with our previous posts.

this is scummy.


Anyways, putting this game on hold until I'm done with, well, like a lot of things. Might have to wait until the weekend for me to get back to this.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Also Also I do not have a town read on anyone.

 

[BarDulL]

Y3S B4DU11, TH4TS IT, F33D M3 YOUR SCUMMY D3LIOUSN3SS.



Ah, but you did more or less know. You yourself said that you were "just double checking and stuff" in your 437, meaning that you already suspected that scum could shoot.

Also I'm not painting you as scum, you're doing that to yourself bro. Also I'm not just focusing on you, Ran's in my mind to, your just the focus as of now.


So you're only attacking me for how I carried out my method? Even if you predicted my intentions, you still would have modified your behavior accordingly. I'll like to get you to respond to weird things so I can drewll on it.

Also, what's up with that gross "Would town Swords actually do this?" question? Besides from the fact that you hardly know me, it's generic as ****.



I do not doubt that you were simply joking. It's the fact that you AVOIDED talking about the town/scum perspective on shooting first that bothers me, despite the fact that we opened up for that discussion quite nicely with our previous posts.



Hmm still don't like that you're afraid to simply say you're town but I won't pursue this point anymore because I can't really see it going anywhere else.

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Ran, what makes me town trying to garner a read over scum simply trying to push a mislynch?

Also, I have my own reasons, but tell me WHY you believe


this is scummy.


Anyways, putting this game on hold until I'm done with, well, like a lot of things. Might have to wait until the weekend for me to get back to this.

Yes, I had a feeling scum could shoot. It wouldn't make much sense if they couldn't. However, I did need it clarified regardless. How is this scummy?

I'm not really sure where you're going with your next paragraphs, so I'm going to skip them.

I never avoided talking about anything. This is what I mean by you trying to paint me as scum. You're putting words in my mouth by saying "I avoided doing X thing," but that actually isn't the case. It can all be summed up as me not taking you seriously during RFS.

But, this is a nice point: what do you think we would have gained from talking about shooting? Seems like flavor/mechanic talk to me and I certainly don't think the scum would slip up by talking about it. It would have mostly provided filler, if nothing else, wouldn't you agree?

Here are the very plain and obvious facts: the scum wants one of the town players to shoot at the other town player, while the other two town players are trying to feel the other players out and pin the scum. So naturally, the individual who isn't trying to get a feel for both players, or is failing to do so, is the culprit. This much is quite clear. So all of us are naturally going to act in the town fashion. Both of you know this already, as do I. You're all relatively decent at the game, with far more experience than myself...I would think. Does this really need to be talked about?

Anyway, this is the very reason that I suspect Ranmaru at the moment. He has failed to address you or tried to get a feel for you so far, thus leading me to believe that he is the individual who is trying to get you to shoot myself.

I'm Town, Swords. There, I said it. Does that make you feel better about me?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

You know what Bardull?

I'll get back to you after Ran answers my questions. I want to see his reply first before I reply.

 

[ranmaru]

I had a slight town read on you because you were doing things, while Bardull wasn't.

I don't remember ever saying that him not questioning you about shooting me was scummy. So no I don't see it as scummy. What I saw from Bardull was just a lack of scumhunting, and then omgus towards you. That's it.

@Bardull: I didn't have a chance to interact with Swords at all until now, so how would I be able to get a feel on him without doing that? Also consider that I was FORCED into the game while you two were rvs'ing, so I didn't get a chance to participate there either. Which I like to do.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I had a slight town read on you because you were doing things, while Bardull wasn't.

I don't remember ever saying that him not questioning you about shooting me was scummy. So no I don't see it as scummy. What I saw from Bardull was just a lack of scumhunting, and then omgus towards you. That's it.

@Bardull: I didn't have a chance to interact with Swords at all until now, so how would I be able to get a feel on him without doing that? Also consider that I was FORCED into the game while you two were rvs'ing, so I didn't get a chance to participate there either. Which I like to do.

Okay.

It's easy enough to say that one's town because they are doing things, but what about the things I am doing? Scum can do things to you know. I've attacked Bardull right from the start, so what if I'm scum simply trying to get a mislynch? What differentiates me from a townie who's "doing stuff" from a scummie who's just saying things in order to seem townie and get a mislynch?

Also

Although Swords pointed out you didn't really question why he asked for you to shoot me first. What did you think of that? (Him asking you to go first)

this question implied that you had an opinion about Bardull "not questioning" me. Do you? If so, what is it?

 

[ranmaru]

It's possible to see it that way but not when the person on the receiving end isn't doing anything at all. I liked that you were being pro-active and disliked that he wasn't.

It didn't imply I had an opinion on it, nor did I have a suspicion on it. I noticed he failed to comment on it and I asked him about it. You seemed to have picked a reason out of thin air rather, you were accusing him for not coming to a conclusion you would have, so I asked him about it. I don't find it suspicious of him in particular.

 

[BarDulL]

I had a slight town read on you because you were doing things, while Bardull wasn't.

I don't remember ever saying that him not questioning you about shooting me was scummy. So no I don't see it as scummy. What I saw from Bardull was just a lack of scumhunting, and then omgus towards you. That's it.

@Bardull: I didn't have a chance to interact with Swords at all until now, so how would I be able to get a feel on him without doing that? Also consider that I was FORCED into the game while you two were rvs'ing, so I didn't get a chance to participate there either. Which I like to do.

It wasn't beyond the realm of reason for you to ask both of us questions. You simply went on asking me questions and me alone, and that was that.

Swords, in addition to me wanting you to answer my last post, I want you to answer this: do you feel Ran is meeting up to his Town meta?

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah, you forget that Swords never asked me a question when he was interacting with you. So I don't see how that is odd to you when I was talking to you at the time. You feel me?

 

[BarDulL]

I said you didn't try to get a feel for Swords, and...you didn't. Swords doesn't need to talk to you in order for you to get a feel for him. :|

 

[BarDulL]

Oh, sorry, was in a rush when I made that post.

Swords...ehhhhhhhh let me look. I had the impression that he tried to feel you up a bit. It wasn't much, but it was a decent FoS.