Mini Game | Werewolves win

[Spak]

Will do after Stat. Not as much homework tonight, so I should be able to do stuff after dinner.

Anyways, it's pretty obvious that they wouldn't kill Zalak because RadR made such a stink about it yesterday that the doc would have likely targeted him. That probably made it easy for WWs to pick off whoever else they wanted.

 

[SlickWylde]

I know I must look so incredibly suspicious right now, but here me out.

I am being used. I'll admit that I was foolish to target Kary after she accused me. That was a noob mistake, and frankly put I was just pissed. However, I'd have to be ******** to think that I could kill her (my only accuser) and get away with it. Like I said before, the werewolves are using me.

I'll post more when I get home.

What were her arguments against you, again? I'd like to hear that defense.

I think Zalak's opinion makes more sense than GreenReaper killing out of fear.- Also, remember that there are two WW, which means if he just did it out of fear, his partner probably would have objected. This says NOTHING about him not being Mafia though. (Or WW, they could have killed for other completely different reason)

Generic jumped on GreenReaper really quickly, which seemed scummy, but then backed off. I think if he was being scummy, he'd press harder. So that's a hard read.

ThatSmasher took a really long time to vote for RadicalRat, which made me think they were partners (Until we found out he was town). If he was scum, wouldn't he want to vote sooner to get rid of him? Or did he know that it would be less suspicious if he pretended like he didn't want to vote for an innocent? This is also a really hard call. I pushed on him so hard last time. I wonder how different this round would be starting if we had lynched him instead?

GreenReaper- I barely even remember him, except for the fact that Kary accused him. Can someone refresh me on how well/not well he's been posting, besides when defending himself? I'm starting to lean Mafia, especially since he says he's leaning town on me. That always comes off as scummy to me.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

What were her arguments against you, again? I'd like to hear that defense.

I think Zalak's opinion makes more sense than GreenReaper killing out of fear.- Also, remember that there are two WW, which means if he just did it out of fear, his partner probably would have objected. This says NOTHING about him not being Mafia though. (Or WW, they could have killed for other completely different reason)

Generic jumped on GreenReaper really quickly, which seemed scummy, but then backed off. I think if he was being scummy, he'd press harder. So that's a hard read.

ThatSmasher took a really long time to vote for RadicalRat, which made me think they were partners (Until we found out he was town). If he was scum, wouldn't he want to vote sooner to get rid of him? Or did he know that it would be less suspicious if he pretended like he didn't want to vote for an innocent? This is also a really hard call. I pushed on him so hard last time. I wonder how different this round would be starting if we had lynched him instead?

GreenReaper- I barely even remember him, except for the fact that Kary accused him. Can someone refresh me on how well/not well he's been posting, besides when defending himself? I'm starting to lean Mafia, especially since he says he's leaning town on me. That always comes off as scummy to me.

Her sole argument against me was because I said this:

I feel like I've almost been playing too defensively/carefully just because I'm so afraid of being lynched as a townie.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Reaper because he's been very suspiciously safe/quite since about page 20, like he hopes everyone forgets about him.

Vote: RadicalRat

Also, I'm gonna be V/LA for the next few days. I should be back Monday though.

posted on page 19

 

[SlickWylde]

I remember that now.

I was too focused on TSYK at the time.

It is a pretty suspicious post, tbh.

What is YOUR reason for wanting to lynch ThatSmasher? I find it odd that you hadn't said anything about him, and all of a sudden on day two, you mention having him as a suspect, and mention me (his main accuser). Some weird stuff going on here. He's still my top pick, but I want to know why he's your top pick too.

I agree with Generic on this one, I need to see something from you that not only shows me that you're not scum, but that you're actively trying to find scum.

 

[Kaladin]

FoS: Everyone.

There are three groups I see here:

Townie or good scum: Zalak, Rosa. Townie lean on both, however.

Probably scum: TSYK,

Bad vibes but more info is needed: Slick, Spak, Reaper, Koopa

Good vibes but more info is needed:
J

Did I miss anyone?

@#HBC | J I want a one paragraph (or more) essay on what you think the implications of this night kill are. Preferably before anyone else posts.

@ Zalak I have a pretty solid townie read on you right now, so answer me this: who are you really sure is town, and who are you sure is scum?

@ SlickWylde Sell your townieness to me. How have you been helpful?

 

[GreenReaperGod]

I remember that now.

I was too focused on TSYK at the time.

It is a pretty suspicious post, tbh.

I've already explained my thoughts that went into the post.

What is YOUR reason for wanting to lynch ThatSmasher? I find it odd that you hadn't said anything about him, and all of a sudden on day two, you mention having him as a suspect, and mention me (his main accuser). Some weird stuff going on here. He's still my top pick, but I want to know why he's your top pick too.

Uh, could you link me to this post? I barely remember it.

 

[Kaladin]

I missed Red Ryu. Red Ryu is null and needs to post more.

 

[Zalak]

FoS: Everyone.

@ Zalak I have a pretty solid townie read on you right now, so answer me this: who are you really sure is town, and who are you sure is scum?
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I'm not sure of anyone, being town, but Rosalina has given me no reason to believe they're scum, and their posts have been helpful, so I guess you could say I have a pretty strong town lean there. (I would still like to hear a little bit more from them, however). On the other side of things, ThatSmasher has really given me no reason to believe they're town.

 

[Zalak]

messed up the quotes there.......................

 

[Zalak]

Now I'm gonna go back and read some old @RadicalRat posts to see if I find anything.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Like I said before, I have a bad feeling about the Omar/Red Ryu slot. None of Omar's posts were particularly helpful and for the most part were just reiterating what had already been said. I definitely want to hear more from Red.

 

[Zalak]

Alright, so one thing I just realized is RadicalRat's reason for being suspicious of J is now pretty much invalid, as Kary is a VT. I still don't trust J at all though, and I want to hear more from him. Particularly, I'd like to hear @#HBC | J 's reads.

 

[Zalak]

@ Kaladin

Mind giving me a detailed read on Slick?

@ SlickWylde

Mind giving me a detailed read on Generic?

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Now I'm gonna go back and read some old @RadicalRat posts to see if I find anything.

Just don't take everything he says as gospel like he was making it out to be. After all, one of his main accusations was that Kary was scum, which of course wasn't true.

 

[Zalak]

Just don't take everything he says as gospel like he was making it out to be. After all, one of his main accusations was that Kary was scum, which of course wasn't true.

Don't worry, I'm not going to assume everything he says is right, but I am going to consider what he said, and I'm going to see how people reacted to his accusations at the time.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Don't worry, I'm not going to assume everything he says is right, but I am going to consider what he said, and I'm going to see how people reacted to his accusations at the time.

Post your findings if possible.

 

[Kaladin]

@ Kaladin

Mind giving me a detailed read on Slick?

@ SlickWylde

Mind giving me a detailed read on Generic?

Sure. I'm in the car right now, so let me get back to my laptop and read all of Slick's posts first. I should get back to you within 5 hours.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Like I said before, I have a bad feeling about the Omar/Red Ryu slot. None of Omar's posts were particularly helpful and for the most part were just reiterating what had already been said. I definitely want to hear more from Red.

@Red Ryu

forgot to do that

 

[Zalak]

@ GreenReaperGod

I'm starting to find some stuff, but I don't wanna dish it out quite yet. I'll try to post all my finding before the end of the day though.

 

[Kaladin]

^game day or actual day?

 

[Zalak]

^game day or actual day?

actual day, sorry for not specifying

 

[Zalak]

I'm now reading through the thread..... backwards.


stopping at page 19 for now

 

[SlickWylde]

FoS: Everyone.
There are three groups I see here:
Townie or good scum: Zalak, Rosa. Townie lean on both, however.
Probably scum: TSYK,
Bad vibes but more info is needed: Slick, Spak, Reaper, Koopa
Good vibes but more info is needed:
J
Did I miss anyone?
@#HBC | J I want a one paragraph (or more) essay on what you think the implications of this night kill are. Preferably before anyone else posts.
@ Zalak I have a pretty solid townie read on you right now, so answer me this: who are you really sure is town, and who are you sure is scum?
@ SlickWylde Sell your townieness to me. How have you been helpful?

That's fair. I think my points against ThatSmasher still stand, and I think if we lynch him, my towniness will be shown.
I think I've shown that I'm not scummy by not jumping on the easiest target, also. I only switched my vote to RadicalRat when he said he was the Mafia.
When I was accused, I merely pointed out what I was attempting to do. I said that Rat wasn't being smart, but I didn't immediately say "Don't look at me, look at rat". (I'll admit I did say "keep looking at TSYK, because I'm pretty confidant about his guilt")
Besides my one post asking you about your opinion, which I've already explained my intentions behind (But I can again), I'm not sure what I've done that's scummy. I think if anyone reads through this whole thing again, they'll see my town bias.
Are you basing this off that one post, or off vibes, or off something else?
Okay, just read your response to Zalak, reading all of my posts is a great idea. I'd recommend everyone do that. (Not just mine of course)

@ Zalak
I had Generic pegged as scum for most of the game, but cooled down on him a little. If ThatSmasher turns out to be Mafia (not WW) then I'm pretty sure Generic is scum. He did vote for him, but seemed hesitant. If ThatSmasher turns out to be WW, I have no idea. If ThatSmasher turns out to be town, I'm screwed, and will be lynched next day, no doubt.

I know people said stuff about Generic's post not being good at the beginning, but I didn't really see anything that suspicious in his posts, I mostly just got bad vibes from him (Which again, RadRat and Kary gave bad vibes, so I don't vote based off that.)

I'm 99% sure TSYK is scum, and will bet my life on it. (Because I'll be lynched next round if I'm wrong lol). Or at least, unless someone else seems WAY more suspicious, I'm still voting for TSYK at this point.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

They weren't that great of games honestly, it was always the same guy that was actually good at the game dying on the first night and all hell breaking loose after.

Found this while rereading the thread. I thought it was oddly appropriate.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

At page 8 right now. ThatSmasher definitely seems suspicious, although I can't shake the feeling in the back of my head that he may actually just be a noob that made a few mistakes.

@ ThatSmasherYouKnow

You haven't posted in a while. With all of the new things that have happened, what are your current leans? Who do you think is the most suspicious? Least suspicious? Give some reasons please.

 

[ThatSmasherYouKnow]

If you do the math, there are 10 players left with 4 townies. That leaves the townies at a disadvantage. Also, this is just pure guesswork, don't take it the wrong way, but the fact that Zalak made it blatantly obvious that he thought he would die, seems suspicious, as he could be a werewolf and could have been trying to make the Doc pull their attention away from Kary for a quick kill. Again, don't take it the wrong way Zalak, just guesswork. Generic might be a buddy, because he was accusing Kary of being scum for doing nothing. Everyone else is null. No one has really shown too many signs of communication with buddies. I'll guess I have to wait to see if anyone does anything. That's about it.

 

[Kaladin]

If you do the math, there are 10 players left with 4 townies. That leaves the townies at a disadvantage. Also, this is just pure guesswork, don't take it the wrong way, but the fact that Zalak made it blatantly obvious that he thought he would die, seems suspicious, as he could be a werewolf and could have been trying to make the Doc pull their attention away from Kary for a quick kill. Again, don't take it the wrong way Zalak, just guesswork. Generic might be a buddy, because he was accusing Kary of being scum for doing nothing. Everyone else is null. No one has really shown too many signs of communication with buddies. I'll guess I have to wait to see if anyone does anything. That's about it.

That's not how math works.

 

[Kaladin]

If you do the math, there are 10 players left with 4 townies. That leaves the townies at a disadvantage. Also, this is just pure guesswork, don't take it the wrong way, but the fact that Zalak made it blatantly obvious that he thought he would die, seems suspicious, as he could be a werewolf and could have been trying to make the Doc pull their attention away from Kary for a quick kill. Again, don't take it the wrong way Zalak, just guesswork. Generic might be a buddy, because he was accusing Kary of being scum for doing nothing. Everyone else is null. No one has really shown too many signs of communication with buddies. I'll guess I have to wait to see if anyone does anything. That's about it.

Anyways, aside from scummy math, I find everyone else being null really hard to buy. FoS: TSYK

 

[GreenReaperGod]

If you do the math, there are 10 players left with 4 townies. That leaves the townies at a disadvantage. Also, this is just pure guesswork, don't take it the wrong way, but the fact that Zalak made it blatantly obvious that he thought he would die, seems suspicious, as he could be a werewolf and could have been trying to make the Doc pull their attention away from Kary for a quick kill. Again, don't take it the wrong way Zalak, just guesswork. Generic might be a buddy, because he was accusing Kary of being scum for doing nothing. Everyone else is null. No one has really shown too many signs of communication with buddies. I'll guess I have to wait to see if anyone does anything. That's about it.

Any gut feelings?

Also, there's 5 townies left (4 vanilla, 1 doc).

 

[Zalak]

That's not how math works.

ignoring the rest of his post? smh

Anyways, aside from scummy math, I find everyone else being null really hard to buy. FoS: TSYK

nevermind

If you do the math, there are 10 players left with 4 townies. That leaves the townies at a disadvantage. Also, this is just pure guesswork, don't take it the wrong way, but the fact that Zalak made it blatantly obvious that he thought he would die, seems suspicious, as he could be a werewolf and could have been trying to make the Doc pull their attention away from Kary for a quick kill. Again, don't take it the wrong way Zalak, just guesswork. Generic might be a buddy, because he was accusing Kary of being scum for doing nothing. Everyone else is null. No one has really shown too many signs of communication with buddies. I'll guess I have to wait to see if anyone does anything. That's about it.

I like the way you think, but I don't like your uncertainty. Of course, you don't need to be 100% certain to post a theory, but it's good to be a bit more assertive, so you can actually push someone for info, or get the attention of others. Anyhow, I said all the stuff about me dying in hopes that either the doc would heal me, or the WWs would decide not to attack me. I felt like I was one of the biggest potential targets, that is all.

 

[Zalak]

Anyways, aside from scummy math, I find everyone else being null really hard to buy. FoS: TSYK

+1

@ ThatSmasherYouKnow
It's not all about communication with buddies. You've gotta look at the intention behind a player's actions. Sometimes scum players will try to subtly derail a conversation so we don't get anything done. Scum players also tend to look more focused on self-defense than trying to find scum (depending on the player and their level of experience). Scum players also sometimes post without actually bringing anything new to the table, just to seem active. There's a number of things you have to look out for.

 

[Spak]

I've got Bouncing Off The Walls stuck in my head... Thanks, Sugarcult.

Anyways, my reads. So far, I haven't gotten much on J (because illness, but slight town lean because I've liked his content thus far) or Ryu (because he joined more recently and his slot didn't post much before Ryu came), but those are excusable inactivates. I've also not seen much scummy intent from Green and don't see why Kary is pushing so hard off of one tiny post that didn't even look that suspicious to me. He might have been trying to pressure Green because of his inactivity, but it seemed like a fruitless push from the get-go. Kary also seemed super-agressive to me early-game and then tried to slow down with his content later (is getting the ball speeding down the hill a role of the IC?) seemed a bit scummy to me, so he is a slight scum lean to me (but close to town).

Zalak seems to have mostly good advice, but could be using the tutoring-status of semi-experienced and being "helpful" as a disguise for scummy intent. He's a town lean because I have nothing on him so far, but I'm keeping my eye on him. TSYK has little experience in this game (as exemplified from all of his posts D1), tries to defend himself, stops trying and leaves for a while, and comes back acting like nothing happened. At the moment, he seems the most scummy out of everyone because of failing pretty much every defense and making himself look bad even when attention isn't on him (presumably to generate content?).

Generic seems to be trying too hard to have scumhunting intent and it scares me that he's taken control over the game's pacing. He's generated a decent amount of content (but his post count is WAY high in comparison to the amount he has created), RadR and Generic were all buddy-buddy until one of them got to look a bit suspicious and then they turned on each-other (which we know they can't be scum buddies now, but it is still profitable to scum for either a town to die or to make some friends), and has been liking posts like a madman since the start of D1 (and slowed down when someone mentioned it). There are quite a few red flags there and I have a gut feeling that he's a bit scummy, but I don't want to lynch him yet; there are bigger fish to fry posting habits that appear scummy may be genuine, and to be honest, lynches based on not much more than gut feelings can do more harm than good.

I've liked Slick so far this game other than the whole "if you're town tell us now" thing with RadR (that looked like he had role knowledge beyond that of a townie). Town lean.

My Koops analysis hasn't really changed since last summery. Slight scum lean, but still not top on the priority list.

Did I forget anyone?

 

[Spak]

lol nvm about Kary's part, he's dead. Got his status in this game confused with DGames.

 

[Kaladin]

I'm on mobile right now, I'll address the rest of that post later. I did purposely stop liking so many posts once it was mentioned, because I don't *need* to like posts, so why give fuel to (false) accusations against me?

 

[Spak]

I'm on mobile right now, I'll address the rest of that post later. I did purposely stop liking so many posts once it was mentioned, because I don't *need* to like posts, so why give fuel to (false) accusations against me?

If you purposefully stopped liking so many posts once it was mentioned, then it's an intentional change of playstyle in order to look less scummy. That's not a false accusation, that's an accurate accusation.

 

[Kaladin]

If you purposefully stopped liking so many posts once it was mentioned, then it's an intentional change of playstyle in order to look less scummy. That's not a false accusation, that's an accurate accusation.

Yes, I intentionally stopped liking as many posts because I didn't want to argue about whether or not liking things makes you scum. I wanted to avoid this pointless post, essentially.

I think the rest of your post is pretty spot-on though, except for a few things I'll talk about in a bit.

@ Zalak I'll also have that detailed read on slick for you in a bit.

 

[SlickWylde]

@ Spak what were you saying about me? All I was saying was "don't be an idiot. If you're town, don't pretend to be mafia"

 

[Spak]

Yes, I intentionally stopped liking as many posts because I didn't want to argue about whether or not liking things makes you scum. I wanted to avoid this pointless post, essentially.

I don't think that that post is a pointless point, but I'll postpone my presumption as I'm preoccupied preparing for my plushy pillow.

 

[Spak]

@ Spak what were you saying about me? All I was saying was "don't be an idiot. If you're town, don't pretend to be mafia"

I was saying that it looked like you might be trying to give him a way out. Now that I think about it more carefully, though, you couldn't have possibly been trying to do that since he flipped town.

You're clean thus far.