Miiverse Daily Smash 4 Photos (Closed for its successor)

[The Real Gamer]

Wow. Those textures are like gamecube level. That is embarrassing.

*sigh* If only Nintendo created a true next gen console instead of a 360/ps3 level console.

Considering that Sakurai said this view isn't even available in game I'm pretty sure not a whole lot of artistic detail is going to go into a segment that can't... you know... be seen in game.

 

[Awaji66]

Wow. Those textures are like gamecube level. That is embarrassing.

*sigh* If only Nintendo created a true next gen console instead of a 360/ps3 level console.

Yeah, but if that's a level to fight on with all the action, textures can't be too advance, or the frame rate might suffer/ slowdown.

 

[DraginHikari]

Don't really understand why higher level textures makes something better anyway.

 

[MattNF]

Yeah, but if that's a level to fight on with all the action, textures can't be too advance, or the frame rate might suffer/ slowdown.

And that wouldn't be a problem if nintendo didn't live in the past and use 10 year old technology for their consoles!

 

[Tree Gelbman]

*cue unnecessary derailment of thread over the ever so popular topic of graphics and system power when it comes to video gaming*

 

[DonkaFjord]

Wow. Those textures are like gamecube level. That is embarrassing.

*sigh* If only Nintendo created a true next gen console instead of a 360/ps3 level console.

It goes against nintendo's view to "reimagine cheap and readily available materials" that Yokio started with Game & Watch using LCD screens since they were cheap and readily available. Besides, bigger and better technology is not always best. Look at the dreamcast. Look at the environmental waste caused by constant "upgrading" that the capitalistic system focuses on. Look at how it ages much faster. To me art style (and gameplay) trumps technology and graphics (Or maybe even a balance of both.) Also like others said that is an off camera area and it is still in development.

 

[MattNF]

Dumbest post I've seen in a long time.

Besides, bigger and better technology is not always best.

Did I say it was?

Look at the dreamcast.

The dreamcast failed because of poor management decisions, not because of the technology.

Look at the environmental waste caused by constant "upgrading" that the capitalistic system focuses on.

You took a comment on an internet forum about a blurry texture in a video game not released and managed to turn it into a snide remark on some thinly veiled political/economic/environmental topic. Smashboards posting has reached a new low.

Look at how it ages much faster.

I-Is this some kind of a joke? Technology not yet released ages faster than technology released 10 years ago? I hope you're trolling.

To me art style (and gameplay) trumps technology and graphics (Or maybe even a balance of both.)

I agree! There's no reason they can't have both though. Take the Wind Waker remake for example or games like The Last of Us. Smash 4 however, looks only marginally better than Brawl, which is due entirely to Nintendo's decision to use PS3/360 level 10-year-old hardware in the Wii U instead of looking to the future. Which is a shame, because they used to care about those things, but now all they want is the soccer mom and grandma audience.

Anyway, sorry for going off topic!

 

[Deathconsciousness]

why do nintendo fans ignore the fact that nintendo ****ing sucks **** these days

 

[N3ON]

why do nintendo fans ignore the fact that nintendo ****ing sucks **** these days

Because they're Nintendo fans. Are you new to gaming?

Also, no need for such flames.

 

[Deathconsciousness]

Because they're Nintendo fans. Are you new to gaming?

Also, no need for such flames.

(✿◠‿◠)

 

[Azule07]

Wow. Those textures are like gamecube level. That is embarrassing.

*sigh* If only Nintendo created a true next gen console instead of a 360/ps3 level console.

I agree. You may not be seeing it, but it's actually really cringeworthy compared to the textures you'd be expecting from the game. Be honest - the only reason it's there is to screw with the Ridley fans. You won't see it in the game, you won't know it's there.

Y'know, I have to ask - have you played anything on a WiiU yet? When looking at pictures and frames from it, it's not all that graphically impressive, but the next gen nature of the console comes from how wonderfully the gamepad enhances the actual gameplay, and the animation and fluid motions of everything. Just look at Pikmin, and try naming a PS3/360 game that's as fluid as that. It may not look as pretty as the best of the best 360/PS3 games, but it's better in many other ways.

(Not calling you out or anything, just pointing out that graphics can't be judged on a still-frame.)

 

[Tybis]

Considering that Sakurai said this view isn't even available in game I'm pretty sure not a whole lot of artistic detail is going to go into a segment that can't... you know... be seen in game.

THEN WHY IS IT EVEN THERE???

Seems like a lot of extra work for something that nobody will actually notice.

 

[Curious Villager]

I guess they just have some spare data they want to fill in... It's pretty similar to what they did with Tails, Knuckles and Silver in the Green Hill Zone stage as Sakurai and his team poured more effort than they should for those too even though they were pretty far away in the background and you generally just saw their backsides (Then again the models were reused for their trophies anyway if I recall correctly...). Sakurai just likes to make those little details to his games.

 

[Tweezer Salad]

It's the hole in the wall on the Pyrosphere stage, has nothing to do with MP3. You won't see Rundas becoming playable in Smash Bros before he's had an actual major role in any Metroid game, that much I can guarantee, and considering that he's dead then you probably won't ever see him. He would personally still be my second choice after Ridley, but just because I like him doesn't mean much. It's Ridley or no newcomer for Metroid looking at it with realistic eyes.

I thought if was the MP3 Ridley boss battle hole when I first saw it, but you're right, you can see the same opening in the pic where DK is throwing Mario and Luigi on Pyrosphere.

Rock textures look bad, but that shaft looks awesome though.

 

[Fatmanonice]

As other people have said on other sites, today is just another fire ant added into the pants of Ridley fans. The update basically confirmed that Ridley won't be coming out of the hole so, if he is a stage hazard, where the heck is he going to come from?

 

[MasterOfKnees]

As other people have said on other sites, today is just another fire ant added into the pants of Ridley fans. The update basically confirmed that Ridley won't be coming out of the hole so, if he is a stage hazard, where the heck is he going to come from?

Can't come from the lava like he did in Other M either, since we've taken a good look down there. Only option would be if he wasn't implemented yet, but then they wouldn't have shown the stage this early I'm sure.

 

[The Real Gamer]

...So Ridley confirmed?

...

Yeah too soon.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

...So Ridley confirmed?

...

Yeah too soon.

So my instinct was right...Sakurai is going to milk information about Ridley as much as he can.

 

[majora_787]

So my instinct was right...Sakurai is going to milk information about Ridley as much as he can.

Ridley milk.

But no. I'm trying to take all of the ambiguity behind Ridley hints as a good sign. I mean moreso than Norfair, they seem to really be trying to provide ambiguity.

 

[Accf124]

To be honest I think Ridley is gonna be a boss in the melee like adventure mode. You go to the stage and then a little cutscene happens and Ridley appears and such. Then you fight him, I doubt he's gonna be a character.

 

[Fastblade5035]

To be honest I think Ridley is gonna be a boss in the melee like adventure mode. You go to the stage and then a little cutscene happens and Ridley appears and such. Then you fight him, I doubt he's gonna be a character.

Go home Rocky, Patrick was looking for you.

 

[Berserker.]

What's wrong with Ridley being a boss. He's freaking boss man. You've seen the **** he did to Samus?

 

[Deathconsciousness]

Nintendo fans are never satisfied and must ***** and whine about every trivial thing.

Example: Brawl

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

If you're going to do nothing but gripe and derail and throw flame bait everywhere, please get out of my topic.

 

[DakotaBonez]

Wow. Those textures are like gamecube level. That is embarrassing.

I feel the same way whenever I look at Corneria in Smash Bros Brawl.
Don't get me wrong, its probably the stage I play on the most, but it has graphics from a game 3 generations old by the time the wii came out.
The same thing is happening again with stages like Skyloft being added to SSB4.
The Wii's graphical capabilites were at gamecube level. So putting anything from the Wii onto the Wii U automatically makes the graphics 2 generations older. Also the platforms are perfectly flat. There are cool details on the stages like Wily's Castle and Battlefield where you can see dips and elevated parts in the terrain, but on the animal crossing and Skyloft stages the platforms are just flat. And now they've added 2 more stages ripped from Wii games. Metroid Other M and the Wuhu Island stage. I don't mind stages that are retro, but to just rip the exact model from an older console just looks bad. If they had rebuilt Skyloft to take advantage of the Wii U's power, like they did with the retro themed stages in Brawl. They had the same worlds from older games, but with updated graphics. Like the Mushroomy Kingdom 75M and Mario Bros and Game and Watch.
Hell they could've ripped the stage but improved the textures at least, which is what it looks like they did with the Other M stage. Then again its hard to tell because Team Ninja did such a damn good job at making Other M look amazing anyway.
It would take too much damn work to rebuild a level from recent games like those anyway.

I think what I was really hoping for was a zelda stage based off the upcoming Zelda Wii U, there's still a chance they'll add another zelda stage though. Or maybe they'll add Temple to ssb4 in all of it's gamecube graphical glory.

 

[Jaedrik]

Nintendo fans are never satisfied and must ***** and whine about every trivial thing.

Example: Brawl

I am a Nintendo fan and I am satisfied.

I can't wait for more screenshots for things that we're not going to see in the game (without hax etc.), and I'm serious about this.

 

[DakotaBonez]

Also, if that Tunnel isn't visible from normal gameplay perspective, I guess that confirms that the camera won't finally let us free roam the stage.
Then again, if Sakurai was able to take a snapshot of it, maybe we ARE finally getting a free roam camera like in Project M.

 

[D-idara]

This gives Ridley some chance...although it's funny to see little pathetic guys flaming Nintendo about their hardware...haven't these people seen the real-time Mario Kart 8 trailer? SSB is a much busier game with much more things involved, it's obvious that it's not gonna have perfect textures of things in the BG you don't even get to see up close, but all characters look sleek and awesome, and it seems like the game will have variable shading systems, from the SMG-stage screenshot.

 

[DonkaFjord]

Dumbest post I've seen in a long time.



Did I say it was?



The dreamcast failed because of poor management decisions, not because of the technology.



You took a comment on an internet forum about a blurry texture in a video game not released and managed to turn it into a snide remark on some thinly veiled political/economic/environmental topic. Smashboards posting has reached a new low.



I-Is this some kind of a joke? Technology not yet released ages faster than technology released 10 years ago? I hope you're trolling.



I agree! There's no reason they can't have both though. Take the Wind Waker remake for example or games like The Last of Us. Smash 4 however, looks only marginally better than Brawl, which is due entirely to Nintendo's decision to use PS3/360 level 10-year-old hardware in the Wii U instead of looking to the future. Which is a shame, because they used to care about those things, but now all they want is the soccer mom and grandma audience.

Anyway, sorry for going off topic!

No you took some things completely out of context. The dreamcast was more technologically advanced but it still failed due to bad business decisions, marketing decisions, and severed ties with 3rd party companies along with a few other things. I was giving very good examples why "OMG NEWEST TECHNOLOGY LAWL" is not the best attitude. Yes, new technology does age faster because 8 and 16 bit is seen as retro and a nostalgic art style now (Low poly is reaching that now) but newer technology falls out of the limelight faster. Also casuals are not all soccer moms/grandmas. God forbid someone out there isn't a hardcore gamer and agrees with your views. Technology is not always equivalent to better games was all I wanted to point out.

 

[Tesh]

Graphics... I don't get the big deal. People should be concerned that the Wii U is less powerful than the new Sony and Microsoft consoles (limiting gameplay complexity and innovation over the next 6 years for Nintendo).

Graphcs made a huge leap from SNES to N64 and from N64 to Gamecube, but after that point it stopped mattering to me.

I've had jaw dropping "wow" moments looking at things in Twilight Princess, Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy and games have long gone beyond the point of "I can't tell whats going on because things are so ugly and blurry", which is all that matters for gameplay.

This next gen's graphics are the least noticeable difference between generations ever IMO. Its not wonder Sony and Microsoft feel the need to branch out into watching TV, DVRing gameplay and whatever else they can cram into their system.


So much money and time is wasted now on making a game pretty enough to be acceptable instead of refining gameplay or taking risks on innovating something.

It would be nice if the Wii U was so powerful and popular that I would be able to play GTA/COD on it, but regardless I gotta have by awesome Nintendo games. Nintendo has actual games and they know they don't need to have the latest pretty visual technology to sell Mario, Sonic, Link, Samus and Kirby.

 

[Player-1]

Ridley confirmed:

Spoiler

 

[Dr.Rock]

Nintendo fans are never satisfied and must ***** and whine about every trivial thing.

Example: Brawl

THIS MUST HUSH.

 

[RomanceDawn]

Are we finally back? Or has the forum been back and I've just been avoiding it?

Ok so Ridley and the hole. We have 2 holes. A big circle that looks like the hole Ridley exited into after the battle in other M and a Ridley head shaped hole that doesn't seem to have much meaning. The holes seem to have always been there, it doesn't look like we have a picture yet with the walls intact so they may be permanent. The different angles make it seem like the holes weren't there before.

Sakurai hinted at Ridley with Norfair and the theme song, but that was nothing compared to how he's doing things now. At this point Sakurai is undoubtedly hyping Ridley, I just can't imagine him hyping up Stage Hazard Ridley like this. He very well maybe though and if its revealed that he is only a stage hazard I hope the groans from Ridley fans are extremely loud.

 

[StupendousMike]

Ridley confirmed:

Spoiler

Is there any truth to the rumor that Ridley was named after Ridley Scott? There is a LOT of "Alien" in "Metroid."

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Is there any truth to the rumor that Ridley was named after Ridley Scott? There is a LOT of "Alien" in "Metroid."

It's been confirmed that Metroid was heavily influenced by Alien, it'd be an incredibly big coincidence if he wasn't named after Scott. So yeah, it's pretty much definite.

 

[Luigi player]

Wow I can't believe Peach is betraying the Mario brothers with Link. What a peach (say that last word a little different)...

 

[FlareHabanero]

I've seen enough hentai doujins to know where this match up is going.

 

[DraginHikari]

Great... now we get to have even more horrible fan fiction.

 

[TheWhiteBowser]

Sakurai your making it too easy for me this joke writes itself

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Link: I think your hero went somewhere else princess...