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[Blaziken77]

I just want to say something. I'm neutral on Ridley being in, I don't think it'll happen, but I'm neutral.

When you think of Kirby, do you automatically think of him as 6 inches?

When you think of Ridley, do you automatically think of him as a giant or as Charizard size?

I'm thinking yes for the first one and no for the second. Due to that perception, that makes it seem odd to shrink down Ridley as he's not percepted to be that size, where as Kirby for instance he doesn't seem right being 6 inches. He seems right being how he is in Smash.

I'm not saying they couldn't do that, just that it feels kind of wrong to do it.

 

[Accf124]

I may be a guy but... I dislike the nail polish color Rosalina uses. It just looks nasty when I look at it.

 

[Muster]

Yeah, but he's much taller than Link in the Zelda games, which is my point. And Ridley's size changes in Metroid as well. He can look fine made smaller; he stays big in the games for gameplay.

Melee ganondorf was a bit hunched over, standing tall he would be at or very close to his height in ocarina of time. And Ganondorf is a lot bigger than link in brawl, while not as much bigger as in twilight princess. (probably a head or two shorter)
I can't see a way for Ridley to look good shrunk down, while the other villains look fine. This is just my opinion, but i'd prefer either big character ridley or big stage hazard ridley. Shrinking him down would just take something away.

Charizard is listed as not breaking 6 feet in his dex entry, knowing that he's actually shorter than me takes a lot from the awesome dragon factor imo.

 

[AnOkayDM]

Melee ganondorf was a bit hunched over, standing tall he would be at or very close to his height in ocarina of time. And Ganondorf is a lot bigger than link in brawl, while not as much bigger as in twilight princess. (probably a head or two shorter)

TP Ganon is literally twice the size of Link. He's been severely shrunk down for Brawl.

Charizard is listed as not breaking 6 feet in his dex entry, knowing that he's actually shorter than me takes a lot from the awesome dragon factor imo.

Why? He could still kick your ass.

 

[majora_787]

We may as well throw out Olimar, the kirby series, Ganondorf, Bowser, and most of the pokemon. They've been resized far too drastically, all look weird, and they all lose something important.

The thing about Ridley is, when I ask people what they think about Ridley, they don't think "30 feet tall". They think "purple robot space dragon pirate monster" and "bigger than Samus". If he were scaled down for Smash, both of these things are kind of given.

And hell, it doesn't even matter how big characters are in canon, when we would be playing as a trophy of Ridley against trophies of other characters. Is Ridley's TROPHY too big? I seriously don't think so.

 

[Morrigan]

Thing is Bowser and Ganondorf are humanoid like. Ridley is like an alien with weird limbs. Do you remember Ridley in Melee's intro? That size was fine, any smaller than that would take away the intimidating factor and he will look like some space roach that can be killed with a pistol.

 

[Spire]

Thing is Bowser and Ganondorf are humanoid like. Ridley is like an alien with weird limbs. Do you remember Ridley in Melee's intro? That size was fine, any smaller than that would take away the intimidating factor and he will look like some space roach that can be killed with a pistol.

That said, Ridley is bipedal and aside from its reverse jointed neck, is very humanoid. Two arms, two legs, a torso, a head, and two wings. Less humanoid than Bowser, but more humanoid than Ivysaur.

I can't believe this Ridley size argument is still happening.

 

[AnOkayDM]

That said, Ridley is bipedal and aside from its reverse jointed neck, is very humanoid. Two arms, two legs, a torso, a head, and two wings. Less humanoid than Bowser, but more humanoid than Ivysaur.

Nevermind that the Melee intro size is the size most Ridley fans actually want.

 

[Niko Mar]

Thing is Bowser and Ganondorf are humanoid like. Ridley is like an alien with weird limbs. Do you remember Ridley in Melee's intro? That size was fine, any smaller than that would take away the intimidating factor and he will look like some space roach that can be killed with a pistol.

If they used his Other M design (or just generally gave him beefier limbs), I don't think he'd look as awkward when shrunk down. I'm not saying make him super small though. In fact, he should probably be the biggest character in Smash 4 to give him a unique quality.

 

[TaichiYaegashi]

Thing is Bowser and Ganondorf are humanoid like. Ridley is like an alien with weird limbs. Do you remember Ridley in Melee's intro? That size was fine, any smaller than that would take away the intimidating factor and he will look like some space roach that can be killed with a pistol.

Spoiler

Looks fairly humanoid to me. This can be said for basically (if not) all iterations of Ridley.

 

[The Drilling Juggernaut]

The worst part of the Ridley topic is if Ridley is in the game he is probably going to be secret; we're going to have this same conversation until the day the game comes out.

 

[Muster]

TP Ganon is literally twice the size of Link. He's been severely shrunk down for Brawl.

vs

I do see a big difference, but ganondorf still fits at both sizes. Ganondorf looked strange being so tall in twilight princess, especially compared to previous (Oot) incarnations of him being barely bigger than link. Ridley is big and looks good big.

compared, see this

vs

This.
Ridley is still "big" in both versions, but he still fits at both sizes. A smaller Ridley than the melee one just wouldn't look good. (but i'd vouch for a melee+ sized ridley)

Why? He could still kick your ***.

Or i could throw a rock. 4x affective baby

 

[Morrigan]

That said, Ridley is bipedal and aside from its reverse jointed neck, is very humanoid. Two arms, two legs, a torso, a head, and two wings. Less humanoid than Bowser, but more humanoid than Ivysaur.

I can't believe this Ridley size argument is still happening.

I know humanoid wasn't the right word. It's hard picturing him walking like the other human characters, just like Ganondorf and Bowser can. That's why it's not weird for those 2 to be shrunk or enlarged. They can still "pass" as human characters, or at least adapt to their behaviors.

 

[Spire]

Other fighting games have huge characters. Sentinel for instance. Smash has Giga Bowser. The bigger they are, the harder they fall; everything has a weakness. If Ridley were to make the cut, he wouldn't be Giga Bowser's size for the sake of: a) not being compared to Giga Bowser, and b) being competently fitting with the rest of the roster. It's so feasible it's stupid to argue over. Our debating will not change Sakurai's mind because odds are, the roster is already set in stone. Patience!

 

[AnOkayDM]

see this

vs

This.
Ridley is still "big" in both versions, but he still fits at both sizes. A smaller Ridley than the melee one just wouldn't look good. (but i'd vouch for a melee+ sized ridley)

First, let's not pretend the Brawl picture is the size he actually is when you fight him; he's significantly smaller than that in the fight.

Second, about Melee size is the size most Ridley supporters want him. -_-

 

[Deleted member]

And four months later, people still think Ridley's size is an issue, despite nothing to support it.

 

[Morrigan]

[Kirby and Olimar argument]

Read the 20 posts above yours.

 

[Deleted member]

Read the 20 posts above yours.

And they are the same arguments over and over again. They are flawed and have no backings.

The picture I posted should tell how little Sakurai cares about canonical size.

 

[Muster]

First, let's not pretend the Brawl picture is the size he actually is when you fight him; he's significantly smaller than that in the fight.

Still pretty big

Second, about Melee size is the size most Ridley supporters want him. -_-

alright then, I was under the assumption you wanted him smaller. A ridley that size is a-okay

 

[Ulti-Bman]

AM I THE ONLY ONE

WHO THOUGHT THAT THE BEGINNING OF THE TRAILER IN THE NINTENDO DIRECT TODAY WAS ACTUALLY A TRAILER FOR KIRBY AIR RIDE 2 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN GOT MORE HYPE FOR THAT GAME THAN FOR SSB4

I actually thought it was Kirby making a guest appearance in Mario Kart 8. I don't feel too smart today.

 

[AnOkayDM]

Still pretty big

Oooh, he is bigger than I remember. I musta been thinking about Meta Ridley?

alright then, I was under the assumption you wanted him smaller. A ridley that size is a-okay

Maybe a tiny bit smaller, but I think that size is fine. Honestly, he'd probably be hunched over anyway, which would make him more compact if nothing else. If he was that big when stretched out, it'd be fine.

 

[N3ON]

Sakurai has started all three Smash 4 trailers (not counting the little Sonic snippet) by making it look like another game (though the E3 one did have the Smash thingy right at the beginning), so imo initially thinking it's something else was the intent all along. Sakurai is just... like... the personification of the troll face or something.

 

[Morrigan]

It boils down to aesthetics and personal taste, I for one would think it'd look bad and/or unintimidating, which I think is one of Ridley's characteristics.

 

[Ulti-Bman]

I was so mad when I saw Kibette Rosalina, but that trailer was so full of win.
Kirby's Air Ride music, which is shown to be > Mario Kart, and so many mechanics. The tree is breakable, the ring is a walk-off, all that mind-bending crap. If she didn't look like a prissy emo, I would totally main her.

Blonde hair + Sparkles + Stars + royal crown + Baby blue, shiny dress + Magical wand = Emo?

 

[Morrigan]

You know, her bangs.

BLACKILINA

 

[majora_787]

It boils down to aesthetics and personal taste, I for one would think it'd look bad and/or unintimidating, which I think is one of Ridley's characteristics.

The EXACT thing could be said for Ganondorf and Bowser. And I could say just as easily that because they had that trait of large size and intimidation removed, they shouldn't be in because they look weird.

And how many characters in smash DON'T walk like humans? Donkey Kong? Diddy Kong? Ivysaur? Squirtle? Pikachu? Pichu? Mewtwo? Bowser never RAN like a human until SSB4. How about R.O.B. or Mr. Game & Watch?

There is no "too weird" here. It all comes down to if Sakurai's "We probably could have made him work if we tried" turns into "We tried because he is the iconic main antagonist of Metroid and it worked." And it's not like he never changes his mind. We went from wheeled characters being impossible without ramps to having ROB. We went from Ness being cut to Ness being in Melee and Brawl. We went from Villager not being possible because of not fighting to him being a frontrunner for SSB4 alongside WII FIT TRAINER. And Ridley "hasn't been established" in the Smash Bros. series as anything. His role has literally been different in every game of the series.

 

[BeatNinja]

Blonde hair + Sparkles + Stars + royal crown + Baby blue, shiny dress + Magical wand = Emo?

People only see the hair and her backstory.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Why do people bring up stuff that doesn't matter? These arguments literally mean nothing.

 

[DakotaBonez]

Holy sh$#,
at first I was like, man looks like Sakurai is just trying to put more females in smash bros, but seriously what can she do?
And then her and luma pull off the hypest combos!
I mean damn dude, her playstyle looks complex as fu$#!
Controlling luma AND rosalina!?!
I cant wait to attempt to play as her and immediately give up.
Sakurai still surprising me EVERY TIME!
Her moveset is looking to be something killer.

 

[Ulti-Bman]

Mario & FLUDD
Link & Fi
Yoshi & Eggs
Peach & Toad


This "&" naming is so lame, the only case where I would be understandable is if the ICs were names Popo & Nana, I mean who cares about the recyclable, short lived pikmin or these luma stars.

I could understand the Luma, but the Pikmin are actually the only way Olimar can even fight (canonically) and their development throughout the series is actually tearjerking. I forgot the name, but one of the songs in the series describes the plight and character development by describing the way they feel about Olimar and what they have to do/what they've been through. They certainly earned their right to be including by name.

 

[MasteRMerF]

Goodness gracious. Hello Miss Rosalina.

 

[majora_787]

I could understand the Luma, but the Pikmin are actually the only way Olimar can even fight (canonically) and their development throughout the series is actually tearjerking. I forgot the name, but one of the songs in the series describes the plight and character development by describing the way they feel about Olimar and what they have to do/what they've been through. They certainly earned their right to be including by name.

Before Olimar, no less. They get a lot of credit in Japan.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Holy sh$#,
at first I was like, man looks like Sakurai is just trying to put more females in smash bros, but seriously what can she do?
And then her and luma pull off the hypest combos!
I mean damn dude, her playstyle looks complex as fu$#!
Controlling luma AND rosalina!?!
I cant wait to attempt to play as her and immediately give up.
Sakurai still surprising me EVERY TIME!
Her moveset is looking to be something killer.

Dude I know what you mean, that set up at the end was dope, and there is so much potential for combos, I'm just hyped beyond belief. Can't help but feel that she is gonna replace Zelda though, that or they could redesign her (Which I feel is fairly probable, but who knows)

 

[Morrigan]

The EXACT thing could be said for Ganondorf and Bowser. And I could say just as easily that because they had that trait of large size and intimidation removed, they shouldn't be in because they look weird.

And how many characters in smash DON'T walk like humans? Donkey Kong? Diddy Kong? Ivysaur? Squirtle? Pikachu? Pichu? Mewtwo? Bowser never RAN like a human until SSB4. How about R.O.B. or Mr. Game & Watch?

There is no "too weird" here. It all comes down to if Sakurai's "We probably could have made him work if we tried" turns into "We tried because he is the iconic main antagonist of Metroid and it worked." And it's not like he never changes his mind. We went from wheeled characters being impossible without ramps to having ROB. We went from Ness being cut to Ness being in Melee and Brawl. We went from Villager not being possible because of not fighting to him being a frontrunner for SSB4 alongside WII FIT TRAINER. And Ridley "hasn't been established" in the Smash Bros. series as anything. His role has literally been different in every game of the series.

I'm well aware we have no say in this, lol do you think I'm debating this in hopes of Sakurai or whoever the hell reading and changing their minds?
Bowser lost his intimidation factor like, 20 years ago, in fact I don't think he's ever had it, it's more of a children's game and he made a fool of himself in like 2/3 of his games, Metroid not so much, it has a darker tone to it than Mario. Ganondorf, to me, still looks "intimidating", he's like this creepy looking person with an angry face, still works, wether you're 100000000000000000000000000 feet tall or above average male human height, because it's still a palpable idea, in the same way an intimidating bad guy from a movie doesn't have to be 7 feet tall. Yes I can see Ridley in Smash if he were the same size as Samus or Bowser, but it'll still look like a "baby" version of him in my eyes.

 

[NitrusVirus]

Finally back from work and now Im going to proceed to masturbate all over this **** and go ****ing fangirl crazy. You cannot believe how hype I am right now. This is probably my second biggest fangasm since Sonics reveal in Brawl. Good ****ing god I never ACTUALLY thought my beautiful Rosalina would get in the ****ing game with THIS awesome and unique of a moveset.
-proceeds to die from asphyxiation. As in im fixated on dat ass-

 

[Ulti-Bman]

You know, her bangs.

BLACKILINA

Now make the figure blonde, remove the mascara, brighten the lipstick, give her big shiny star earrings, lengthen the back of her hair, put a crown on her head, and give her a bright blue dress. Still looks emo?

 

[AnOkayDM]

Can't help but feel that she is gonna replace Zelda though

wat

Zelda's a spellcaster. Rosalina has a pet.

 

[Accf124]

I hope you can play Luma as some form of stand alone Luma. Maybe a alternate costume.

 

[Morrigan]

Now make the figure blonde, remove the mascara, brighten the lipstick, give her big shiny star earrings, lengthen the back of her hair, put a crown on her head, and give her a

bright blue dress. Still looks emo?

Rosalina irl

 

[NitrusVirus]

Now make the figure blonde, remove the mascara, brighten the lipstick, give her big shiny star earrings, lengthen the back of her hair, put a crown on her head, and give her a bright blue dress. Still looks emo?

Dude if you make it completely different its basically the same because emo. HAX
Everyone knows if your eye(s) is/are covered everything about you is void and youre actually emo. Trufax.