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MysticKenji

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Either make Mewtwo better, or replace him with Lucario. They should make Mewtwo balanced. He'll have a balance of speed and power.

Shadow Ball should go in a straight path.

I dont really know how to get rid of Teleport.

Disable has got to go.

Confusion has go to go as well.
Lucario should not replace Mewtwo.

Shadow Ball and Teleport are fine.

Disable can be replaced with Barrier or can disable an A-move

Confusion is replaced with Psychic
 

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Lucario should not replace Mewtwo.
I agree. Although I differ on the special moves.

Confusion should be the same but throw you back at a considerable distance and deal at least a little percentage.

Disable should be able to work whichever way your opponent is facing and should have a slightly greater distance. Either that or replace it with Physic.
 

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Is Mewtwo comming back and if so I think they should give him better moves, make him strong er, survive more often and make him the best A.I. in the game because he is smarter then all the characters. Who agrees with me
Not a good idea to make him better than everyone else.
To be honest, i'd rather see him be replaced with Lucario or Darkrai.
 

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-make it heavier
-make it faster
-less lag in its attacks
-Disable has a bit more range and can stun people even if they arent looking at you(should be his SideB)
-its new DownB could be Recover...it could only be used once per stock and it could recover up to 50%(it will take like 7 seconds to reach 50% and it can be interupted by an attack...so basically...even something like Mario's F.L.U.D.D can waste a Mewtwo's Recover...)
-stronger Smash moves
-alot of priority in his Nair

thats all I can think of right now...
 

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Not a good idea to make him better than everyone else.
To be honest, i'd rather see him be replaced with Lucario or Darkrai.
making him better then everyone else is a good idea.
(i mean he's supposed to be the ultimate pokemon)


screw lucario or darkrai or any other pokemon!!!!!!
mewtwo for god tier!!!!!!!!
 

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I don't see why only unimaginative characters who never fight and swordsmen who passed their prime years ago have the privilege of being better than everyone else.
 

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I agree. Although I differ on the special moves.

Confusion should be the same but throw you back at a considerable distance and deal at least a little percentage.

Disable should be able to work whichever way your opponent is facing and should have a slightly greater distance. Either that or replace it with Physic.
I can agree with that.

-make it heavier
-make it faster
-less lag in its attacks
-Disable has a bit more range and can stun people even if they arent looking at you(should be his SideB)
-its new DownB could be Recover...it could only be used once per stock and it could recover up to 50%(it will take like 7 seconds to reach 50% and it can be interupted by an attack...so basically...even something like Mario's F.L.U.D.D can waste a Mewtwo's Recover...)
-stronger Smash moves
-alot of priority in his Nair

thats all I can think of right now...
Good list. Also, DSmash should hit on both sides or be super-powerful.
 

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Bump!!



They should give Mewtwo his armor that he had in da first movie. Then, he'd be a force to be reckoned with son! That and a couple of auras and a modified moveset too. He was so NOT in his prime in Melee.
 

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Bump!!



They should give Mewtwo his armor that he had in da first movie. Then, he'd be a force to be reckoned with son! That and a couple of auras and a modified moveset too. He was so NOT in his prime in Melee.
Don't you remember? the armor restricted his power so that he wouldn't randomly blow stuff up. The armor makes him weaker.
 

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Still looks pretty cool though.

Huh, I wonder if he spent a long session under the armour before he was put in melee?
 

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Naaah. See, the problem is that Mewtwo's too fearsome.

You see, Sakurai invited all those characters and sent them the necessary material if they agreed to come.
Unfortunately, the postman was too afraid to approach Mewtwo to bring him the letter with all the necessary material, so Mewtwo, all used to being uber and accidently killing people by looking at them too hard, told himself to not take the battle too seriously to give the other characters a chance.

Then Sakurai applied the balance-hammer.

Mewtwo did wonder how a Pikachu and a Jigglypuff were supposed to compete with the King of Evil Ganondorf anyway.


So think of it like when they take a passport photo of you without a warning.
"Wait, so I don't have to hold bac-" *HAMMER*



Who, me? Yes, I'm bored, why do you ask?
 

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confusion should make the opponent's analog stick reverse for a couple of moments.
and they should make his other psychic moves dirty and tactical. (Fits the Strategic Evil Genius Mastermind vibe Mew2 has). Like slamming the opponent face down into the ground.
 

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Mewtwo is boring.
He looks unimaginative, unlike other Pokemon like Lucario, Darkrai, Gardevor, or Gengar.
I would like to see him in brawl, maybe even a little stronger.
But the whole "Mewtwo should be better than everyone else" idea is balderdash.
SSBB is supposed to be a balanced game.

Ps: Mewtwo is not the ultimate Pokeman. He was made after Mew which, therefore, makes Mew the ultimate Pokeman.
 

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Mewtwo is boring.
How so?

He looks unimaginative, unlike other Pokemon like Lucario, Darkrai, Gardevor, or Gengar.
:urg: No. And you could at least spell Gardevoir correctly.

I would like to see him in brawl, maybe even a little stronger.
But the whole "Mewtwo should be better than everyone else" idea is balderdash.
SSBB is supposed to be a balanced game.
True.

Ps: Mewtwo is not the ultimate Pokeman. He was made after Mew which, therefore, makes Mew the ultimate Pokeman.
...That statement is so false, I can't do anything with it. :urg:
 

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Eh, its just the way he looks and his voice is like my math teacher's: slow and boring.


:urg: No. And you could at least spell Gardevoir correctly.
My bad a typo.
Well i think the so-called ultimate pokemon could look a little cooler and more colorful.
Like Rayquaza is awesome looking.

PS: The gengar looking creative thing was a joke


...That statement is so false, I can't do anything with it. :urg:
How so?
 

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Mewtwo was designed to be stronger and more powerful than Mew, basically a super clone. That's why he's classed as the ultimate pokemon and not Mew.

And I personally liked Mewtwo's design and voice =(
 

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Mewtwo's design is great!

See, you have Mew, the basis of all Pokemon ( or something ). He's designed to look both rather generic and at the same time, iconic and characteristic of all Pokemon, and like a fetus.

Mewtwo looks like a *******ized, grown-up, bitter, scarred, a violated version of Mew's innocent character. Which is exactly what he is.

Also, the Rayquaza and being the most powerful Pokemon thing is purely subjective. I personally think that it's good that Mewtwo's design isn't so overwrought. Sometimes, less is more.
 

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Also, the Rayquaza and being the most powerful Pokemon thing is purely subjective. I personally think that it's good that Mewtwo's design isn't so overwrought. Sometimes, less is more.
I said that Rayquaza is cooler looking not more powerful.

And the less is more line reminded me of Charmin toilet paper.
xD
 

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I said that Rayquaza is cooler looking not more powerful.

And the less is more line reminded me of Charmin toilet paper.
xD
I know, I... was too lazy to make a coherent sentence there. Rayquaza is pretty much about as powerful as Mewtwo, isn't it?

Well, my point was that Mewtwo's design is more fit than Ray's for an "ultimate" Pokemon because his is iconic ( based on the iconic Pokemon, Mew ) and not so overwrought that he evokes associations of something unimportant.
Like, what else would you have given the genetically manipulated clone of Mew who was never supposed to be born? Cannons? That's silly. Tentacles? Why would he have tentacles? Some sort of runes all over his body? What sort of runes and for what reason?

In the end, Mewtwo is supposed to look like a really miserable and exploited Mew, and being all gray and stuff like that, he does that perfectly.
And that's probably why he's still considered the ultimate by most. Because he just looks so iconic and... not a reference to anything outside of Pokemon like an Egyptian culture or a legend or something.


...I get too verbose over stuff like this. But it's fun!
 

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I know, I... was too lazy to make a coherent sentence there. Rayquaza is pretty much about as powerful as Mewtwo, isn't it?

Mewtwo is faster, and has slightly more HP and Sp. Attack. Rayquaza has more Attack and is a Dragon-type

Well, my point was that Mewtwo's design is more fit than Ray's for an "ultimate" Pokemon because his is iconic ( based on the iconic Pokemon, Mew ) and not so overwrought that he evokes associations of something unimportant.
Like, what else would you have given the genetically manipulated clone of Mew who was never supposed to be born? Cannons? That's silly. Tentacles? Why would he have tentacles? Some sort of runes all over his body? What sort of runes and for what reason?

In the end, Mewtwo is supposed to look like a really miserable and exploited Mew, and being all gray and stuff like that, he does that perfectly.
And that's probably why he's still considered the ultimate by most. Because he just looks so iconic and... not a reference to anything outside of Pokemon like an Egyptian culture or a legend or something.


...I get too verbose over stuff like this. But it's fun!
I agree with you.
 

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See, you have Mew, the basis of all Pokemon ( or something ).
*anal monologue approaching* actually, mew is simple the first mortal pokemon. as opposed to a lot of the other legendaries who are like gods or something, for example: groudon, kyogre and rayquaza who are the land, water and sky gods respectively. then theres palkia and dialga who are space and time. also, arceus (dumb pokemon) is supposed to be like, the god pokemon...or something....


anyway, all of that is boring, the statement below however, is where the moneys at:

Mewtwo's design is great!
.........yeah.........
 

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He can't be the best ever just cause of his mind. The slowness suits him fine.
In his final smash he could choose someone and join his hands together once and ,with his psychic powers, squash the enemy to pieces.
 

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He can't be the best ever just cause of his mind. The slowness suits him fine.
In his final smash he could choose someone and join his hands together once and ,with his psychic powers, squash the enemy to pieces.
some might say that would be overpowered.......


besides, when you're a psychic, your mind = your power. i should know.
 

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Wow, just because you see people so great in movies and games doesn't mean that they should be like that all the time everywhere... you noob it would mess up the whole game and mew2 can easily own if you actually know how to use him just like most of the other characters
 

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Mewtwo was considered the ultimate Pokemon until Lugia and Ho-oh appeared. Also, with Pokemon like Rayquaza, Dialga, and Palkia roaming around, Mewtwo has gained a lot of competition. In fact, Mewtwo is actually inferior to Arceus, which is the creator of the Pokemon world.
 

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Mewtwo's design IS awesome! Atleast, in Melee t'was. In Pokémon Stadium he looked horrible. Just look at it:



Is clearly better looking than...

Also, if you've played Pokemon Battle Revolution, Mewtwo's appearance looks different than it looked in the N64 Stadium games. Of course, it's still inferior to Melee's Mewtwo.
 

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why do some people think that rayquaza is better then mewtwo?
rayquaza is a dragon AND flying type making him 4x weak to ice.
mewtwo can learn ice punch....



mewtwo will always own arceus.(he's faster)

mewtwo against ho-oh-mewtwo wins with water pulse.
mewtwo agaisnt lugia- mewtwo wins with shadow ball.
mewtwo agaisnt arceus- mewtwo wins with aura sphere.

yea i know arceus can change type with plates.
 

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why do some people think that rayquaza is better then mewtwo?
rayquaza is a dragon AND flying type making him 4x weak to ice.
mewtwo can learn ice punch....



mewtwo will always own arceus.(he's faster)

mewtwo against ho-oh-mewtwo wins with water pulse.
mewtwo agaisnt lugia- mewtwo wins with shadow ball.
mewtwo agaisnt arceus- mewtwo wins with aura sphere.

yea i know arceus can change type with plates.
i think you mean ice beam.

mewtwo is awesome. dragons are cool though.....
 

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Arceus is the most powerful Pokemon, with base stats of 120.

Mewtwo's base stats are 113.33.

He has only been equaled, never surpassed.

Lugia 113.33,
Ho-Oh 113.33,
Rayquaza 113.33,
Dialga 113.33,
Palkia 113.33,
Giratina 113.33,

And Mew is only 100.00 :p
 

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Arceus is the most powerful Pokemon, with base stats of 120.

Mewtwo's base stats are 113.33.

He has only been equaled, never surpassed.

Lugia 113.33,
Ho-Oh 113.33,
Rayquaza 113.33,
Dialga 113.33,
Palkia 113.33,
Giratina 113.33,

And Mew is only 100.00 :p
arceus sucks. mewtwo's special attack is second highest in the game (behind only deoxys in attack form). and he's faster that arceus. STABed psychic would probably kill it, and if its a type that resists psychic, and 2 of those types are weak to fighting....mewtwo learns aura sphere. the best chance it has is go psychic which resists both, but my money would still be on mewtwo.
 

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arceus sucks. mewtwo's special attack is second highest in the game (behind only deoxys in attack form). and he's faster that arceus. STABed psychic would probably kill it, and if its a type that resists psychic, and 2 of those types are weak to fighting....mewtwo learns aura sphere. the best chance it has is go psychic which resists both, but my money would still be on mewtwo.
It doesn't matter if his Special Attack or Speed are greater, all in all, his Base Stats are lower.

Anything eles depends on how good of a trainer you are.
 
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