Mewtwo Patch "Dump"

[Conda]

Maybe there never really was a rule making it so that Samus's Utilt only spiked ground opponents, but rather
the spike hitbox being so small and near the end of the move making it seem that way?

No, it only spikes grounded opponents.

 

[MagiMagi]

So like did they add more trophies? I didnt have them all but I just saw a ton of new ones trying to farm mewtwo's customs.

He has customs?

 

[X1Type1]

NO WAY THIS CANNOT BE

Greninja appears to be completely and totally unchanged.

 

[Conda]

Has Shulk's back slash to the front always done 10%?

Plase check before posting, the info is readily available on the shulk forums.

He has customs?

Again, the info should be available on other threads. This is a patch changes thread, search tools are your friend for other purposes and questions.

 

[Archimedes]

He has customs?

Well I went into customs and it allowed me to select him, I havent unlocked any yet because I gave up early in. Im gonna try on smash run on 3ds instead soon.

Is it confirmed he doesn't have customs? Like I guess its possible I just thought it wouldnt let me select him in the edit customs screen if that was true.

 

[exnecross]

Oh man, I can't wait for the new RosaLuma meta. It's gonna be even worse than Diddy. Prepare for an influx of campy, floaty games that make it to Sudden Death half the time.

 

[MagiMagi]

Well I went into customs and it allowed me to select him, I havent unlocked any yet because I gave up early in. Im gonna try on smash run on 3ds instead soon.

Is it confirmed he doesn't have customs? Like I guess its possible I just thought it wouldnt let me select him in the edit customs screen.

I'm not sure, I just saw on GameFAQs that he didn't have customs. Though it is GameFAQs, so it's not exactly credible.

 

[LimitCrown]

He has customs?

He doesn't.

 

[RadioactiveMoth]

He doesn't.

It's disappointing to see that he doesn't. Though, you can still try to customize his customs in the menu.

 

[DaRkJaWs]

Diddly only should have had a small knockback nerf with his uair (or more lag after a down throw) and fsmash, I think the changes to his fair and damage nerf on his uair were completely unnecessary and uncalled for. Now we have to reap what we sow, because diddy was the only character keeping the annoying or campy characters in check, like rosalina, olimar, PACman, sonic, and the frame free characters like luigi and Mario. Now people like myself, who mains Dk and could take on diddy, have to deal with this BS on a larger scale.

 

[mimgrim]

NO WAY THIS CANNOT BE

Other then like 2 Shadow Sneak bugfixes and maybe the 2nd hit of Usmash being faster allowing it to connect reliably, nope not much changed about Greninja. At least according to word of mouth, I don't have the patch or M2 yet and won't till midnight.

 

[Archimedes]

He doesn't.

Wow that sucks, I was hoping to replace disable with something.

 

[Mariofan13]

I think Ike's counter has more knockback now...

 

[Terotrous]

Diddly only should have had a small knockback nerf with his uair (or more lag after a down throw) and fsmash, I think the changes to his fair and damage nerf on his uair were completely unnecessary and uncalled for. Now we have to reap what we sow, because diddy was the only character keeping the annoying or campy characters in check, like rosalina, olimar, PACman, sonic, and the frame free characters like luigi and Mario. Now people like myself, who mains Dk and could take on diddy, have to deal with this BS on a larger scale.

This belongs in the "Character Competitive Impressions" thread. This thread is only for posting changes, not discussing how they will impact the metagame.

 

[Zink Imp]

Thank Christ for the Lylat Cruise fix. You have no idea how many times I died from the ledges.

 

[Lag Chan]

>dk
>one of the worst

...welp u need education.

Late reply but here I go.
Yeah, personally DK is easily in the bottom 10 in the game. He has his good match ups and a few even ones, but most of the time DK ends up losing out. And I'm not including customs and his amazing up B custom.

 

[kid craft 24/sonic master]

people who are complaining about characters like sonic, rosalina and such overrunning the game now should be more worried about ZSS becoming more prevalent. She wasn't changed in the slightest and arguably now will have the easiest time taking stocks thanks to dthrow > uair > up-b strings on nearly the whole cast. She basically is now what sheik would like to be if she was a bit faster and with better reach.

 

[BrianAure]

Any pikachu mains can confirm pikachu stayed the same?

 

[DaRkJaWs]

people who are complaining about characters like sonic, rosalina and such overrunning the game now should be more worried about ZSS becoming more prevalent. She wasn't changed in the slightest and arguably now will have the easiest time taking stocks thanks to dthrow > uair > up-b strings on nearly the whole cast. She basically is now what sheik would like to be if she was a bit faster and with better reach.

Sorry somehow I forgot to mention zss, you're absolutely right.

 

[XinShot]

Seemingly unchanged


1.0.4 3DS / 1.0.1 WiiU Community Patch Notes

This is my first post here ever, I'm maining Zero suit, and she seems kinda different, anyone remember if you could control her up special after unleashing it? Because you cannot do that now at least, and it seems a lot easier to DI out of. I updated both my 3DS and Wii U version because I was too hyped so I didn't check.[/quote]


you can control it before and after patch. but after patch it does seem to be easier to DI out of left or right near the beginning of the animation.

 

[Balgorxz]

Late reply but here I go.
Yeah, personally DK is easily in the bottom 10 in the game. He has his good match ups and a few even ones, but most of the time DK ends up losing out. And I'm not including customs and his amazing up B custom.

metagame without customs is useless, DK is easily top15 of the game

 

[ToshiroCampbell]

Any changes to Zero Suit's up special or is it just my imagination?

 

[Road Death Wheel]

Late reply but here I go.
Yeah, personally DK is easily in the bottom 10 in the game. He has his good match ups and a few even ones, but most of the time DK ends up losing out. And I'm not including customs and his amazing up B custom.

im not either, but whateve not the place.

 

[InfinityCollision]

This is my first post here ever, I'm maining Zero suit, and she seems kinda different, anyone remember if you could control her up special after unleashing it? Because you cannot do that now at least, and it seems a lot easier to DI out of. I updated both my 3DS and Wii U version because I was too hyped so I didn't check.

Deconfirmed. Up-b is unchanged, you can still adjust its trajectory slightly. Please do not post changes if you are unable to verify them or provide a verified source.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Can confirm that ledge trumping works the same way as before.

How sad.

 

[TMJ_Jack]

I keep hearing Lady Palutena got buffed, but the only thing I've seen confirmed is a slight graphical change in her shiny moves, e.g. her fair. I really want her buffed because of she's so light but has such disgusting lag.

 

[Conda]

I think Ike's counter has more knockback now...

Again guys, if everyone posted stuff like this this thread would be fully useless for any readers or posters. Please have some self control.

 

[Poopmin]

Quick question. Completely unrelated to character tweaks but does this patch break Wii U replays?

 

[Psycho waffles]

I could be crazy but possible zelda changes


U-tilt 6% (7%)
F/B-Air SS 21% (20%)
N-air 10% (maybe changed to 11%)
U-air 16% (15%)
Up-B 1st Hit 6% (same)/2nd Hit 8% (12%)

 

[Thinkaman]

Quick question. Completely unrelated to character tweak but does this patch break Wii U replays?

Of course.

 

[Thinkaman]

I could be crazy but possible zelda changes


U-tilt 6% (7%)
F/B-Air SS 21% (20%)
N-air 10% (maybe changed to 11%)
U-air 16% (15%)
Up-B 1st Hit 6% (same)/2nd Hit 8% (12%)

All of this is incorrect.

 

[Poopmin]

Of course.

Thought as much. Just needed some confirmation outside of gut reactions. Thanks.

 

[InfinityCollision]

Do 3DS FD and Wii U FD have the same ceiling height?

 

[Thinkaman]

Do 3DS FD and Wii U FD have the same ceiling height?

iirc 3DS's is higher/wider.

 

[InfinityCollision]

Damn. Is there a way I can reliably compare knockback/kill %s using an unupdated 3DS and an updated Wii U?

 

[FirstaLasto]

Do 3DS FD and Wii U FD have the same ceiling height?

I don't think so, I'm getting different KO percents on 3DS and Wii U FD.

 

[Terotrous]

Can we get some OP updates soon? It might help cut down on some of the "has this been changed?" when people have confirmed it was like 10 pages ago.

 

[JustDan]

pikas heavy skull bash momentum glitch still exists.

 

[TR Yuri]

Anyone has any new confirmation for Falco?

 

[TheReflexWonder]

I played a little before work. I didn't notice any different in Little Mac's Smashes in terms of KO-ing.

Wario N-Air is already Frame 4 pre-patch. If anything, it would be glorious if the sweetspot lasted for longer than one frame and didn't have something like nine frames of no hitbox before the sourspot kicks in. :/