Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (Spoiler-free!)

Arrow · Oct 21, 2004

The fourth beam has been revealed. Spoiler follows:

The fourth beam is known as the Annihilator, and uses both dark and light beam ammo to fire.

It's currently unknown if there will be more beams than those 4.

BTW, if you like those sites Mic linked to, you might also find these of interest (You really only need bother checking one... they're all the same as ilovebeams)...

http://www.iloveskis.com/
http://www.ilovekeys.com/
http://www.iloveknees.com/
http://www.ilovesneeze.com/

Nintendo really went site registering crazy.

Lightsaberboy · Oct 21, 2004

all your bees are belong to us? huh? i dont get it >_<

Venom Dream · Oct 21, 2004

I really like the box art. The one for the first Metroid Prime was too generic for me...

~ Azure

Mic_128 · Oct 21, 2004

Originally posted by Lightsaberboy
all your bees are belong to us? huh? i dont get it >_<

By Cashed
Especially since on Halo2.com the front page says "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US" in Covenant code. It just... makes fun of Halo 2 in so many small ways.

Ice_Climbers2 · Oct 21, 2004

Originally posted by Arrow
The fourth beam has been revealed. Spoiler follows:

The fourth beam is known as the Annihilator, and uses both dark and light beam ammo to fire.

It's currently unknown if there will be more beams than those 4.

Where'd you find that bit of spoiler info? I dont disbelieve you, just curious where you found it.

I sure hope there are more than four beams now since

the fourth beam also uses ammo.

. We need some more variety with all this light and dark. Besides, what would a Metroid game be like with out the Ice Beam?

MewtwoMaster2002 · Oct 22, 2004

Originally posted by mic_128
Ok, we all know of Halo's "Ilovebees.com" Promo. Well, check these sites out.
http://www.channel51.org/ (See video page)
http://www.orbislabs.com/
http://www.ilovebeams.com/

I don't get what the first 2 havta do with Metroid Prime 2 and which video are you talking about? Lol I love the part that says "all your bees are belong to us".

Electricmouse · Oct 22, 2004

Looks like retro loves making new suits for samus.

http://media.cube.ign.com/media/499/499105/img_2423161.html

Bah, I can't make it a link. Just copy and paste like they did back in the day.

Shadow Master Mewtwo · Oct 22, 2004

Omigosh! She disguises as a dog-eared piece of paper with a blue letter "i" on it?

Arrow · Oct 22, 2004

Looks like retro loves making new suits for samus.

Woah, tons of new screenshots! Is that a boss you have to fight while in morph ball mode? I think the new suit looks very sexy... I'd like to see what that helmet looks like from the front.

Where'd you find that bit of spoiler info? I dont disbelieve you, just curious where you found it.

Well, I specifically found it being mentioned in the metroid2002.com forums. The source was an interview with Retro employees. I'm disappointed by the lack of an ice beam too (how else are you supposed to kill Metroids!?), but apparently for this installment, the Dark Beam has taken its place. The 3 new beams are basically using the same engine as the beams from Prime. The Dark Beam is a slow firing shot with freezing abilities (Ice Beam), the Light Beam is a shorter range, but fast shot with a wide firing cone when charged (Plasma Beam), and

the Annihilator has homing shots (Wave Beam).

If you notice, the graphics for the gun arm itself are even the same as they were in Prime (Ice Beam shaped arm is the same as the Dark Beam arm).

I don't get what the first 2 havta do with Metroid Prime 2 and which video are you talking about?

Do a little more searching on Channel 51, and you'll find some stills and videos that, although staticy, should look very familiar. Also, the site owner of Channel 51 is named "Samantha Marus" and lives in "Sumas". Channel 51 makes many references to Orbis Labs, which appears to be researching some kind of combat ball

EDIT: Spoiler if you aren't a Nintendo Power subscriber. The latest issue confirms both the

Annihilator

and the

Light Suit

, which is the same one as in the screen shot that was linked to a couple posts ago.

Bowser87 · Oct 23, 2004

Is there any special offer for reserving the game?

Cashed · Oct 23, 2004

Yes there is. Put $5 down on it and you get a free T-shirt. The T-shirt says "Universal Bounty Hunters: Saving one planet at a time."

Bowser87 · Oct 24, 2004

Picture

It's cool enough. Not the kind of T-shirt I'd be wearing in public, but I think I'll get it nonetheless.

demoncaterpie · Oct 26, 2004

Originally posted by Bowser87
Picture

It's cool enough. Not the kind of T-shirt I'd be wearing in public, but I think I'll get it nonetheless.

What are you talking about?! That t-shirt is freakin awesome. I am so wearing it to school once I get it.

Nic64 · Oct 28, 2004

The Windwaker · Oct 29, 2004

The game is no longer called Metroid Prime 2: Echoes... it's not named Metroid Prime 2: Dark Echoes. I guess they wanted to throw that in there and it does make more sense. Along with this name change another one of Nintendo's games got a name change. Star Fox is now Star Fox Assault... I personally liked Armada better.

demoncaterpie · Oct 29, 2004

Originally posted by The Windwaker
The game is no longer called Metroid Prime 2: Echoes... it's not named Metroid Prime 2: Dark Echoes. I guess they wanted to throw that in there and it does make more sense. Along with this name change another one of Nintendo's games got a name change. Star Fox is now Star Fox Assault... I personally liked Armada better.

No, I'm pretty sure it's still called Echoes.

soberfox · Oct 29, 2004

What is up with that list of links that all take you to the same place? Why were those made, and how the **** did you find them?..unless of course, you made them yourself...

Electricmouse · Oct 29, 2004

Yeah, its still called metroid prime: echoes, it is only called dark echoes in japan.

Venom Dream · Oct 29, 2004

ilovecapris.com?
Hilarious!

To sober: Its a spoof on www.ilovebees.com, a site premoting Halo 2.
It doesn't take alot of work to get a bunch of different addresses to the same page. I'm not sure of the cost, but if Nintendo is funding it cost wouldn't even be an issue.

~ Azure

demoncaterpie · Oct 31, 2004

Originally posted by Venom Dream
ilovecapris.com?
Hilarious!

To sober: Its a spoof on www.ilovebees.com, a site premoting Halo 2.
It doesn't take alot of work to get a bunch of different addresses to the same page. I'm not sure of the cost, but if Nintendo is funding it cost wouldn't even be an issue.

~ Azure

Yeah, ilovebees scares me.

Cashed · Oct 31, 2004

Score from EGM: 10, 9.5, 9.5

Looks pretty good, though the original scored straight 10's.

FaTmAn2k20 · Oct 31, 2004

Hmmm... I'm considering getting this instead of MGS3, and then just borrowing my friend's MGS3 whenever he finishes it. I don't really know why, but I'm pretty sure it's because of that sweet T-shirt.

Mediocre · Oct 31, 2004

Hmmm... I'm considering getting this instead of MGS3, and then just borrowing my friend's MGS3 whenever he finishes it.

It's frickin' awesome that you've stopped writing in black, kiddo.

Keep up the good work.

And yeah, I'll be getting this game on Christmas. No question.

demoncaterpie · Oct 31, 2004

Originally posted by Mediocre
It's frickin' awesome that you've stopped writing in black, kiddo.

Keep up the good work.

And yeah, I'll be getting this game on Christmas. No question.

Not before me. I must own this game.

Bowser87 · Oct 31, 2004

I reserved it today, but the offer is different in Canada. Instead of a t-shirt, we get a f*cking CD case shaped like a Morph Ball with the MP2 logo on it. It sucks, but I still got something free. Maybe it's time I get a CD player now.

demoncaterpie · Oct 31, 2004

Originally posted by Bowser87
I reserved it today, but the offer is different in Canada. Instead of a t-shirt, we get a f*cking CD case shaped like a Morph Ball with the MP2 logo on it. It sucks, but I still got something free. Maybe it's time I get a CD player now.

That's actually not to bad of a trade off. The CD case sounds awesome. Wish I had one.

Arrow · Nov 1, 2004

Personally, I think the CD case sounds way cooler than the shirt. The shirt looks... kind of lame. First of all, the color... wtf. Secondly, it looks way too "festive" for a Metroid shirt. Why can't someone just make a shirt with a big picture of a metroid on the front. That would be "the bomb". The sold out Hot Topic ones have been the best Metroid shirts I've seen so far. Heck, I'd take a shirt with the image from the ilovebeams sites that says "Never send a man to do a woman's job".

Though I haven't gotten my latest EGM yet, I'm betting that the only reason they gave MP2 only one 10 is so that Halo 2 could be the game of the month, and not have to face outrage from X-Box fans. I'm not implying that Halo 2 doesn't deserve it's score... but from what I've seen/played of both games, MP2 is just as good as Halo 2, if not better.

Raccoon87 · Nov 1, 2004

Arrow, where are you hearing these scores for the games? I've heard scores about all of the big games that are being reviewed in the latest issue, but they are just rumors. The next issue doesn't come out for at least another week, even for suscribers.

I'd preorder Echoes if I could get a CD instead of a t-shirt.

Metroid Killer · Nov 12, 2004

Here are some pcitures of the game:

Box (the most beautiful Gamecube boxart I've seen!)

Inside/Disc

Stuff

You guys get the game today and men I envy you sooo much.

Oh and Gamespot just gave it 9.1

Bowser87 · Nov 12, 2004

Originally posted by Raccoon87

I'd preorder Echoes if I could get a CD instead of a t-shirt.

CD case, not CD.

That box art makes me long for the game even more. The game will come out only the 17th here, and I'll get it the 20th.

Metroid Killer · Nov 12, 2004

metroid.com has been updated. VERY COOL!

Many spoilers though.

MewtwoMaster2002 · Nov 12, 2004

I wonder who got the game so early. I don't get it until next week. That boxart is pretty cool.

Arrow · Nov 12, 2004

Originally posted by MEWTWOMASTER2002
I wonder who got the game so early. I don't get it until next week. That boxart is pretty cool.

Game review sites have already received the full version of MP2.

The boxart is really nice. Though it's hard to tell from the picture, I heard that it has kind of a holographic thing going on.

Definitely check out metroid.com if you haven't already. The site is set up to be interactive in such a way that exporing the site is kind of like playing Metroid Prime 2. You move around through different areas and scan items/enemies to open game footage and downloadable content. It even keeps track of your item collection percentage!

Venom Dream · Nov 13, 2004

THE SCORES! So far...

EGM: 9.3/10
1up: 8.5/10
NOM UK: 97/100
Gamespot: 9.1/10
IGN: 9.5/10
Gamepro: 5/5

Average: 9.35

Metroid Killer · Nov 13, 2004

Honestly I expect slightly better scores, but dang they are still very impressive.

Also most of the complains have been about:

Backtracking
I love the backtracking Metroid games. It's done in a way so when you backtrack you go through some rooms you've seen before, btu because you have all these new powers you get a new fresh impression of the rooms you backtrack through.

Difficulty
They say that Metroid Prime 2 has gotten a bit harder. But being European and haveing the harder version of Metroid prime I can only say that this is indeed a postive thing. Hard Mode on the PAL Metroid Prime is soooo much fun.

Controls
The controls for Metroid Prime were perfect imo, however I can see why some people want retro to at least include an option to have dual analog.

Multiplayer
Well I've always been against multiplayer in Prime, so it's sad to see point being taken off because of this new feature. However I find it annoying when people complain about it not being online. Was Goldeneye and Perfect Dark not great games?

More boxart shots

Do you like my new avi and banner?

Cashed · Nov 13, 2004

MK, everyone complains about no online in the game because we live in a time where online is the new in-thing. It's the most popular thing to do, N64 didn't have online capabilties, yet the GameCube does. Does Nintendo support the online though? No, they don't think it's a profitable form of business.

Online though... Online really can make a game. Halo 2 wouldn't be as fun as it is if it weren't online. I love playing with Osco, INFESTD and other people I don't know. I can also play against my friends without having to go over to their house. Sure it just sounds lazy, but it's a lot easier.

And you think it's silly for it being scored down for no online? Mario Power Tennis got scored down for a function that can be turned off. I bought Mario Power Tennis today too, really fun.

Anyways, I have Prime 2 reserved and got the shirt. I don't know how I'm going to get $45 in 2 days though.

soroush123 · Nov 13, 2004

Originally posted by Metroid Killer
Do you like my new avi and banner?

Yes, very sick.

Anyway, I;m hoping to get this mainly for the MP, so it sure as **** better be good.

CerbKirby · Nov 13, 2004

I would like to note that the boxart for MP2: Echoes is super badass! I would also like to make some notes and points about the game.

From what I can imagine from the game, the multiplayer doesn't really seem to add that much to the game. You could go as far as to say it "takes away from the single-player", but the multiplayer wasn't really made to be a big deal about the game. If you want a mulitplayer Metroid frag-fest, I'd say MP: Hunters would be a suitable game (again, this is judging from other areas, not experience), but the multiplayer in MP2: Echoes is merely a bonus for the people who want to take a break from traveling between light and dark worlds, fighting Ing, etc.

Also, as for the online, it might've been a nice addition to the game, but it's not like it's a regular FPS that people would want online (even if it was more regular like that, it probably wouldn't online for the Cube anyway

). The single-player aspect of Metroid games has always been their best appeal (and in most cases, their only appeal), and I can't see someone sacrificing a beautiful, atmospheric game with an awesome single-player just to get online play against some people they don't even know. Also, four people is fine by me, and you certainly don't need LAN/online for that, unless you really need a whole screen of your own.

If Nintendo will make any money off of Metroid for its multiplayer, it should definitely be MP: Hunters. It's basically what everyone asks for: local wireless connection, no split screens (how could you do that on a handheld anyway?), and possibility of over 4 people included in Samus frag-fests. The graphics are shaping up as well, and whatever DemaSked does for playing with people over long distances, it can surely be good.

Metroid Killer · Nov 14, 2004

Actually I was more annoyed by the fact that they take points off multiplayer because its without online mode when most people who've played multiplayer simply complained about that it simply doesn't work. As in Metroid is never meant to be played as a multiplayer.

From the impressions I've heard even an online standard like Halo 2 wouldn't save Metroid Prime's multiplayer.

However some people do find the multiplayer fun.

Gamepro:
"There's more good news, and it's in the form of MP 2's long-awaited multiplayer mode. It may not stand toe-to-toe with Halo 2's jack-of-all-trades multiplayer, but it's simple, quirky, and ridiculously addictive--all the earmarks of a classic party game."

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Mic_128 · Nov 14, 2004

Originally posted by Cashed
Anyways, I have Prime 2 reserved and got the shirt. I don't know how I'm going to get $45 in 2 days though.

Oh moan, moan, moan. In aus, it's $100, without the Tee.

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