Meta Knight Challenge #3: Diddys Bananas

[Kaffei]

Why do you think there are no videos online anywhere of a MK successfully planking another MK? I don't know why I'm debating this when it's not an issue. I can try to get a video up sometime though.

Of couse MK is going to Uair. I don't know how much Uair outranges MK's Dair, but it's not by much. I run off the stage and hit MKs with Dair all the time. Sometimes I get hit with a Uair (but honestly, not very often). The thing is that if I get hit with a Uair, I take 6%. They usually can't combo after the Uair becasue they were falling when the hit me with it. And if I hit them with the Dair, it leads into a perfect SL stage spike, and they die.

Also, other things work too. Like if you shield a rising Uair, then you get a free SL (because the SL hitbox hits below MK too). People use it a lot in the ditto on Delphino. If a MK tries to go under the stage and Uair you, just shield the Uair and SL them. It will pull them up from under the stage.

Oh, I understand. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

[Kel]

^^^ That can be a good strat, but tornado still doens't affect diddy if his shield is semi-full. For some reason his shield is ridiculously powerful against defending the tornado.

Oh yeah definitely. Diddy's shield is amazing. It's probably the best in the game. I'm always surprised at how well Diddy's shield is at not getting poked through nado.

I was more suggesting that if a diddy tries to dash attack/ fair (most common attacks for diddys without bananas) to tornado them, since tornado out prioritizes all of diddy's stuff.

One thing I like to do to BAD diddys is to hang out behind a banana between the diddy and myself in order to bait the diddy to dash attack (in order to pick up the banana), and then to tornado them.

ADHD, I'm really interested in hearing what you have to say about the match up. I know MKs don't like the match up, but I know Diddys don't like it either. I'd love to hear your input about what makes the match up annoying for Diddys.

 

[Kaffei]

So what happened to this thread. It randomly died lol

 

[CaliburChamp]

Look at 1:38 - 1:45 in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD0Pk_GMNs0&feature=related

I shield the banana, approach with D-air and mistakenly pick the banana up, while the banana is still on the ground, toss it at diddy kong player and I go in for the grab. I'm going to be using this "mistake" more often in this match up. lol.

 

[Kaffei]

Look at 1:38 - 1:45 in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD0Pk_GMNs0&feature=related

I shield the banana, approach with D-air and mistakenly pick the banana up, while the banana is still on the ground, toss it at diddy kong player and I go in for the grab. I'm going to be using this "mistake" more often in this match up. lol.

Lol that's funny

 

[-Syn-]

I've seen vidz of m2k and shadow do it before [vs like Adhd or gnes]... and other mk's... not that much, but every time they did it and made contact Diddy was dead... the FF Nair im talking about....

Like they wud be edgegrabing, then they wud just double tap down and Nair... and diddy is dead...

It only works when diddy is directly under the edge

This works because of the invincibility frames you get from grabbing a ledge and releasing quickly.

 

[smasher01]

This works because of the invincibility frames you get from grabbing a ledge and releasing quickly.

Are you shur this works i thought it only worked if you got the diddy with it(nair) befor he up-bs other wise only d-air will knock diddy out of his up-b?

and for the next discussion we should do how to stay out of range and avoid wario's fart.

 

[Staco]

I was inactive the last time (school etc.).
Im going to update this thread soon and Ill also add some new tricks against bananas.

 

[Needle of Juntah]

I told M2k how to deal with Diddys bananas but i think his mind is just never on the task at hand unless its playing smash. Grab a banana, run OFF the level 1 char length, throw it up. Diddy now has 1 banana for the entire duration of the time it takes to fall all the way into the abyss and re spawn in his backpack. There different way to do this of course u can jump up a couple times, throw it up let diddy approach trying to get at you, mind game him by hitting him away and regrabbing banana and recycle the tactic over and over. If you think this doesnt work its because your mind is just to slow. there so many variations of how to use this after youve thrown it up into the air, it literally opens up an entirely different way to play the matchup, this works way better when you have 5 jumps. I dont even have the game lol GL

 

[smasher01]

I told M2k how to deal with Diddys bananas but i think his mind is just never on the task at hand unless its playing smash. Grab a banana, run OFF the level 1 char length, throw it up. Diddy now has 1 banana for the entire duration of the time it takes to fall all the way into the abyss and re spawn in his backpack. There different way to do this of course u can jump up a couple times, throw it up let diddy approach trying to get at you, mind game him by hitting him away and regrabbing banana and recycle the tactic over and over. If you think this doesnt work its because your mind is just to slow. there so many variations of how to use this after youve thrown it up into the air, it literally opens up an entirely different way to play the matchup, this works way better when you have 5 jumps. I dont even have the game lol GL

what? lol
explain a little simpler plz im slow and really i really am lol

 

[Needle of Juntah]

what? lol
explain a little simpler plz im slow and really i really am lol

Aight look.

when he pulls his bananas out, go and grab one. k, now, you run off the level, or like jump or whatever just get off the level. throw it upward.... its going to take about 6 second before he will be bale to pull that banana out of his pack again, meaning u have time to mind game him and F him up while he only has one Banana.... Now the mind game part of this, Once you throw it up he obviously going to be trying to hit u and all that crap so you can

1. Throw it up, make him approach and hit him.

2. While your doing that you can Re Grab the banana *as its falling* and recycle the tactic, Since you can fly it makes this ALOT easier than other chars.

3. If this is done right you should be constantly throwing that banana up and hitting him and catching it and throwing it up and hitting him and catching it. You going to see things open up that going to have no idea how you didnt capitalize on it. Obviously they will try to adapt to this, so you wont be able to just do this every second of the match, but most the match, you should be doing this or something like it.

4. Keep him with 1 banana the whole fight

anyways i hope that helped a little bit. I think if you guys add this to your game Diddy wont be much of a problem anymore... back to snake