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B - Pay Day (Meowth throws coins at opponent)
Wow. I just knew that some noob was going to come in with a comment like that.
If what was the case? He didn't make it in the first 2 so why include him now? And whats your point? I didn't hate on meowth. . . . I don't think Geno/ Todd/ Tom Nook will get in but that dosn't mean I hate them.
I disagree he has a large variety of moves and they create new pokemon moves all the time, They put him in a pokeball because they wanted him included somehow, Nintendo knew he was popular and acted on it.
If the pokemon didn't take anything from the anime then they would make weird noises not say their names
That's ok I do see him coming, I guessed 3 newcomers so far.
There is no "e" in popular sorry about that, Popularity does play a role and you can't deny it Sakurai will have to put in some recognisable characters as well as his retro ones, there will be more recognisable characters then there will be vintage.
To be truthful ALOT of pokemon could have completely unique move-set in ssb. . . it's just that Meowth really isn't a unique pokemon in the poke games.
They make those noises because the GB couldn't do the names. And thats VERY minor, not like Jpuff getting her marker or Meowth using gadgets if thats what your talking about.
Well Im assuming you mean Pitt/ MK/ Wario which all seemed like givens (for Pitt you could have been one of the few that knew who he was).
Theres a BIG differance between popularity and just being recognisable. Yeah, they would have to be recognisable to some level but there are other recognisable pokemon that would not be in based only on being popular like Meowth.
Wario still had Wario land then.
I disagree again, In Pokemon Yellow Meowth was on his hind legs which made him somewhat unique. Then Why was Meowth removed from his pokeball in Melee and only had a trophy, One of my crazy theorys is that he was supposed to be a playable character then was scrapped for Mewtwo, they didn't bother to shove him in a pokeball but he still got his trophy.
Nintendo didn't even plan for them to say their own names until the anime and taking gadgets isn't that unrealistic.
I knew who pit was yes and those where the ones I guessed.
Does to me because he is the most recognisable pokemon left
Meowth is the most recognisable pokemon left
Then what about the returning characters like Meowth.
They may have just not wanted any more Mario characters. . . . Or they didn't care for Wario land and saw this new one as a great reason for him to be in as his own non- Mario character.
That game was based on the anime. . . by that logic James has a chance. And that really didn't make him unique seeing as other meowths were in that pose (very close to it).
From that I would think that it was their idle for them to say their names so it would make sense having them do the same in a game where they can say something.
And I guessed that you guessed them so that gives me even more credit than before that my guesses are pretty good lol.
Yet they still didn't put him in. . . . he is only recognisable because of his popularity when pokemon was all the blaze. There are newer recognisable pokemon that are very much more unique than he.
Wario would have been added for Wario Land if he was in melee, not Mario.
Using a marker to fight is illogical, using gadgets works.
Technically James does have a chance
Then why did Charizard remain
Pichu wasn't added because he was new, he was added because he was popular in Japan andd would be an easy addition.
none of the pokemon from the 2nd generation and up are as recognisable as Meowth because Pokemon is out it was a fad with the first gen then it dissapered
He would make a great addition, but I don't think he will be in because he isn't requested as much although he is the coolest starter ever.
Not really seeing as he has WarioWare (w/e it's called) out-fit and not the Wario land fit. That would have been a Mario clone and 2 other characters with the same fit as him.
Thats not the point, the point is that she IN NO WAY used the thing that she was famose for in the anime.
Than that would mean that Red (Ash) has a chances too. . . I don't see them getting in over Ash if they are using the anime (which they are not) as a way to select characters.
Because he is alot more popular game wise (was on the cover of red) and liked more/ a iconic pokemon.
Pichu was never really popular, it was just the new baby Pika which got it recognized.
Yet, again, they didn't choose him. And the 2nd gen was crap well the 3rd came back and was the highest selling GB title ever so they didn't dissappear.
He was WAY more wanted than Meowth back than. People who want meowth only see the anime for choosing pokemon and not the game from what I see. If they used game meowth (like they used game Jpuff) than it would be on all 4s and have claw attacks. . . .nothing too great.
But it was still a game so it still counts
Yeah that was after Pokemon Yellow
was there episodes of the show on Pokemon Channel, if there was and it showed Team Rocket using weapons (This includes Meowth) then it was on a game so it counts and if Nintendo wanted to they could draw more stuff from the anime.
No, it's based off the show. They had a game based off of Futurama, does that make Fry a video game character? NO. Jessie and james originated on the show but were in one game. Are they video game characters? NO.
Yes, yes it was.
Key words: "episodes of the SHOW." Must I do the Futurama analogy again?
Why would he be on all fours when in the games he is on his hind legs and he has way more than claw attacks it's called Pay Day and through TMs he can learn all sorts of stuff INCLUDING Shadow Ball.
In the games they may stand on 2 legs but like Pika they run on all 4s so thats what I mean't.
he has a lot more than that and he is very likely.
B - Pay Day (Meowth throws coins at opponent)
Meowth would use a dark attack because he learns that one without a TM. I think when you encounter a wild Meowth in GSC, he uses faint attack.
My point was that that attack doesn't really show who Meowth is like F-S or payday so it doesn't matter if he learns it in game. Pika learns light screen by lev but he never got it in ssb cause it realy doesn't show who he is.
Mewtwo learns Disable and he has it as an attack in the SSB. Disable doesn't show off who Mewtwo is, it's not even a psychic attack. Heck, Mewtwo can't even learn shadow ball without a TM yet that attack got in.
Disable does show his persona to some point seeing as he is pys and would be able to do SOME kind of mind game like that. And shadow ball may have been put in to show his villian side and give him a projectile. He is pretty much a bad example because they more-less missed doing anything to show him as the pokemon we all knew.
Your saying Mewtwo is the exception? I win the faint attack debate.
For one I never said M2 was the exception, I said he was a bad example because he was a bad character to use as a example ( the most powerful pokemon having stats and attacks that made him the weakest character in a fighting game. . .bad). Shadow ball does show his villianess side and disable shows some pys power (slight mind control). Tail whip would have been a better example because he is not known for that but it makes some sense seeing as he has a long tail.
Him being a bad example makes him an exception to what you believe is correct, and since there is one exception, there can be more, like for Meowth...
I said bad example as in he was a BAD character. His attacks did show him as a villian and mind user so, no matter how bad they were, they did show his character.
And you don't believe faint attack, a dark move, shows Meowth as part of a weak team of villain strokers like he is normally portraid because....
Faint attack is not like tail whip to M2, it would be a important attack to a dark pokemon's move-set and not a good choice for a normal type to have. And in no way is he known for that or would have any use for it seeing as F-S best shows him from both the games and anime. In fact, having a pretty good dark attack would go against him being known as a weak character.
Meowth uses faint attack in the games. Who cares if its not from the anime, they would be using a generic Meowth from the pokemon games to fight, like they got a generic Pikachu, Pichu, and Jigglypuff (there is only one Mewtwo). Just because Team Rocket's Meowth doesn't know faint attack, doesn't mean he should have it in Brawl. Heck, did you know Team Rocket's Meowth doesn't know how to do Pay Day either? Maybe he shouldn't have that!
That wasn't me. I actually was agreeing with you about the gadgets debate.
The TR Meowth isn't the only Meowth that can walk on hind legs. In the games, all the Meowth can do that/
Meowth would still use his guitar. Even if it wasn't a game, he still utilizes it in promo art. What don't you understand about this?
