The Star King
Smash Hero
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Any half-decent one won't have input delay...
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Melee Online: Progress Report
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Dan Salvato
IE
I'm working on partnering with an individual distributor to provide high-quality adapters to Melee fans at a discount. I'll keep everyone updated.
Geenareeno
Smash Lord
USB ports can have input delay though. I guess that' pretty comp specific though and only if you're using other ****. I don't actually know anything about USB. Am I right, though?
M@d-F!ghter
Smash Cadet
dis aint work
Massive
Smash Champion
Oh man, I'm glad you told me.
I had been wasting a lot of my free time coding it...
Back to my metroid papercraft I guess.
M@d-F!ghter
Smash Cadet
dat aint work neither
Massive
Smash Champion
Ugh. I guess I'm back to seducing women and drinking too much Diet Dr. Pepper again.
WHAT A DARK CHAPTER IN MY LIFE THIS HAS BECOME.
RaphaelRobo
Smash Champion
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Forget that, just spend all your time on the Phantasy Star Online 2 Closed Beta. It's what I'm doing.
Bones0
Smash Legend
Maybe we can use PSO2 to play Melee online. 
RaphaelRobo
Smash Champion
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I play Melee with people over Skype all the time.
"I jab with Ganondorf, what do you do?"
If they don't respond within 3 frames (or however long it takes), I hit.
"I jab with Ganondorf, what do you do?"
If they don't respond within 3 frames (or however long it takes), I hit.
Pichu4SSB4
You're not going Turbo?
How about going back to the old way of playing Melee online via Phantasy Star Online, GameCube Broadband and 2 straight-thru network cables one for router to hook to the computer, and one for gamecube to hook to the router? Sounds simple.. right?! =D Oh wait, i use PAL Melee... fff.
Massive
Smash Champion
You do all of that, and then it's still the same desynchy crap as vanilla dolphin online, lol.
RaphaelRobo
Smash Champion
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I use Melee 1.2, so I can't do it. Oh, and I have PAL PSO.
M@d-F!ghter
Smash Cadet
or we use cloudgaming to stream the button input to - and rendered picture from - a dedicated server 
no desynch fo shou !!
no desynch fo shou !!
Dan Salvato
IE
We ruled this out because P2P is superior unless you have dedicated servers all over the world, and this would be way too laggy via P2P.or we use cloudgaming to stream the button input to - and rendered picture from - a dedicated server
Morin0
Smash Lord
Will you guys be posting a guide on getting everything set up exactly like on a Gamecube? For example, the controller settings. I've been playing on the emulator for a while now and I'm almost positive my L button isn't set up correctly because I can't tech with it but the shielding seems to work fine o.O And also I guess getting the deadzone etc set up correctly.
Dan Salvato
IE
Because everyone's controllers and USB adapters are different, it's basically up to the player to configure the controller settings to his/her liking. Some require larger deadzones, some don't support analog shoulder buttons, etc. If you're having trouble teching or something then the timing might be different based on your monitor's input delay.
JOS.fm
Smash Journeyman
the website is down. in any case, thanks you guys for working on it.
Massive
Smash Champion
IE was hosting a Project M mirror on it.
Ran well over his bandwidth this month, lol.
There's not much new development to report atm anyway.
M@d-F!ghter
Smash Cadet
i think u shouldnt have anounced this so early. would have been better if u announced it close to playable public beta. but its just an opinion
Massive
Smash Champion
I'm sorry I guess?
Spyro
Smash Ace
I'm happy to know
Still hyped btw
Still hyped btw
ZaXXoR
Smash Journeyman
lol that's like saying game developers shouldn't announce games years ahead of time *cough* Diablo 3
Dan Salvato
IE
It's worth an announcement to say that we are actively working on this. It's not speculative and it's not vaporware. Because we can't predict a release date or even a beta date, we can't time an announcement around it. Furthermore, those interested in our progress can keep up with the dev blog, which would not have been public were it not for the announcement.
Finally, there's a lot going on in both of our lives and we can feel really burned out if a problem frustrates us for days or weeks on end. The hype is part of what keeps us motivated, knowing that the better part of the Melee community is cheering us on. Basically, we announced SSBMO early enough to let people follow our progress but late enough to know that this is something that WILL happen.
Xtra
Smash Ace
and yes!! the melee community is def cheering u guys on!!! keep up the good work!!! we were actually just talking about this yesterday at a smashfest. EVERYONE is hyped!!
M@d-F!ghter
Smash Cadet
then lets hope it wont turn into a big disappointment ^^
sheesh, got quite an optimist here.
So long as it runs better than what the Wii has, haha (= Of course, wishing you guys the best of luck with this, and hope you learn plenty from this process as well. It's great to hear there's many people backing this game going online.
Beat!
Smash Master
What the hell, dude.
Bones0
Smash Legend
You can't really blame his attitude and poor expectations for others to meet his desires for quality video games. At least, not since barlw.
Morin0
Smash Lord
Lol, there's a difference between being doubtful, and just being plain out pessimistic like earlier in the thread when he said it wasn't going to work. He kind of falls in the latter. I don't know why you could even be pessimistic about this since there hasn't been any (failed) previous attempts like this, there's relatively good progress, and Brawl is irrelevant (Nintendo Wi Fi =/= p2p).
Unless you were joking about that; then I'm DUM
Mahie
Smash Lord
No, he just doesn't want to have false hopes, like he did for Brawl.
Massive
Smash Champion
I've been very careful of making grandiose claims about this specifically to keep people from getting too excited. I don't like promising things I can't deliver on, and while failure has always been an option, I am confident that we will be able to deliver something substantial (playable) sometime in the near future.
The product most people will encounter is going to feel like melee with a little (hopefully negligible) bit of lag attached.
As of now, the majority of my effort is going into fixing desyncs and reducing the visible effects of latency, but please keep in mind that some limitations we encounter will not have anything to do with our ability as developers; both the speed of light and the architecture of the internet are the ultimate hindrances to any multiplayer online game.
With that said, feel free to be as pessimistic/nihilistic as you want, we honestly don't need your or anyone else's approval.
The product most people will encounter is going to feel like melee with a little (hopefully negligible) bit of lag attached.
As of now, the majority of my effort is going into fixing desyncs and reducing the visible effects of latency, but please keep in mind that some limitations we encounter will not have anything to do with our ability as developers; both the speed of light and the architecture of the internet are the ultimate hindrances to any multiplayer online game.
With that said, feel free to be as pessimistic/nihilistic as you want, we honestly don't need your or anyone else's approval.
Morin0
Smash Lord
Dan Salvato
IE
Exactly. We're not Sakurai. We are part of the competitive Melee scene. Our goal is to make you guys happy while Sakurai's goal was to specifically NOT make you guys happy, hehe.
Mahie
Smash Lord
Just in terms of anticipation, of course, nothing else is the same. I am for one rather confident and full of hope about this all, I was explaining his p.o.v. in my earlier post ( I know first-hand, having talked to him about it).
Eggm
Smash Hero
Can't wait for this.
Naughty Pixel
Smash Apprentice
assembly is a ***** :|
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