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[Divinokage]

I mean I think I at least showed some consistent results over the years. It's doable I mean what if Ganon still hasn't reached the full potential yet because I think I can play even better and add more tricks to deal with situations Ganon normally has trouble with.

But Falcon can also be not at full potential either. I guess we'll see.

 

[leffen]

Ganon is clearly mid tier

but that doesnt mean that he can't do as well or better than you do Kage

every single character can get developed soooooooooo much its crazy, and that includes ganondorf.

 

[-ACE-]

We just need more Ganons representing! But it takes too much effort to be able to hang with high/top tiers with high/top level players controlling them lol, people get frustrated with Ganon and cop out. That's why all the Ganon mains are homies.. the few, the proud... lol

 

[Divinokage]

I forgot what it's like to be frustrated. Everyone just needs more courage to be themselves and represent what they want to do, you know?

 

[Warhawk]

inb4 more mediocre falcon combos thats been done 1038108310times get "top10" spots

please

I'm sure between Mango, Hax, and Darkrain they can come up with at least one thing for you that's better than "mediocre".

 

[-ACE-]

I'm sure between Mango, Hax, and Darkrain they can come up with at least one thing for you that's better than "mediocre".

For real, it's funny to me that leffen (who is actually very good vs peach) takes pride in his anti-peach game so much but does the most boring fox stuff ever... to me it doesn't matter if I've seen it before, if it works, **** it. Smart play is actually very entertaining to some people lol

 

[Bones0]

Leffen posted? Didn't even notice. His new font is like he added himself to my ignore list...

 

[leffen]

For real, it's funny to me that leffen (who is actually very good vs peach) takes pride in his anti-peach game so much but does the most boring fox stuff ever... to me it doesn't matter if I've seen it before, if it works, **** it. Smart play is actually very entertaining to some people lol

I dont really take pride in my anti peach play... I should be much better than I am vs peach, and the way I'm practicing right now is the way I should've been all along.

That said, I still think I'm the best at the matchup, but I'm not really proud of that fact (more disappointed at how bad mango is at it)
and if you think my stuff is "the same old boring" then **** you you ignorant *****

and the thing is, I'd love to see the smart stuff Mango/Hax did, not the OMG KNEE TO KNEE COMBO they did. Smart stuff>>>>simple combo thats flashy but has been seen 10381831 times

 

[-ACE-]

I dont really take pride in my anti peach play

I still think I'm the best at the matchup

Lol, sorry I got so confused.

if you think my stuff is "the same old boring" then **** you you ignorant *****

I never said "the same old boring" but you do do fox stuff that is nothing special, you just play the matchup correctly. And let's get one thing straight, YOU are a *****. Not me, lmao.

Also, I'm willing to say mango is better vs peach than you just because he's that much better overall than you are. You could play nothing but fox vs peach for years and still might not be as good as mango at that matchup because frankly, you don't compare to him.

 

[leffen]

My whole argument from the beginning has always been that Mango may do better than me vs Armada (even tho he hasn't as of late) but that is because of his general skill being higher than mine (for now), but I am still better at the MATCHUP.

and me thinking im the best at the matchup and me taking pride in my anti peach play aren't really related...


MORE IMPORTANTLY


Forward, the smash player, just **** on Noel Brown+ Justin Wong in Marvel. YOOOOOOO

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

Forward the chess player would do better

 

[Wake]

Leffen's Fox scares me. I hope Foxes never learn from him in the Peach MU. Leffen, stop recording stuff.

 

[-ACE-]

Leffen, stop recording stuff.

Eff you dude, as much as I like m2k we don't need another one LOOOOL

 

[Wake]

I'm just saying, if more Foxes learn from some of the stuff Leffen does against Armada, life will get much harder for us Peach mains.

 

[-ACE-]

Yes, that's what I'm getting at, **** peach mains LOL

 

[Wake]

Leffen, where did you see these Marvel matches?

Also, ACE, Ganon is bad.

 

[leffen]

http://sv.twitch.tv/teamhazmat

WF going on right now

 

[Wake]

Thanks!

 

[-ACE-]

Also, ACE, Ganon is bad.

I know...

*cries*

 

[Wake]

Forward and I both use Viper, he just beat Combofiend. Also, Fchamp is really cute.

 

[Divinokage]

I know...

*cries*

Nah man, you gotta believe in my man Ganondorf!

 

[-ACE-]

Nah man, you gotta believe in my man Ganondorf!

I do, trust me

 

[xianglongfa]

leffen can you provide us with more info on this tournament like live/updated brackets, or where forward is in brackets right now?

 

[ShroudedOne]

I also agree that Leffen plays the MU best (Jman might've been able to do it better, but he's long retired).

Kage, I'm all for having faith in Ganon, but as good as Falcon? Again, you're delusional.

Don't worry, Wake. A lot smashers write Leffen off (and don't like him), and so won't bother learning from him. So we're safe.

 

[-ACE-]

Jman was, and still is, a **** fox main, one of the best...

but do you really think he was known for his anti-peach game? at one point he was sort of a falco slayer... idk other than that.

 

[Wake]

His style is very good against Peach, and if I recall, when Armada did so well at Genesis 1, Jman was pretty confident in his Peach game.

 

[leffen]

Jman camps Peach too hard, and his style wouldn't work now that armadas game against camping is A LOT better than @G1.

Just look at him vs Vanz if you doubt me being better... run away ->side b past peach LOL ***** this aint brawl

 

[Wake]

I definitely think you're the best Fox at the Peach MU. Just keep being mean to people so they refuse to learn from your matches. It's a win/win situation, really.

 

[Divinokage]

I also agree that Leffen plays the MU best (Jman might've been able to do it better, but he's long retired).

Kage, I'm all for having faith in Ganon, but as good as Falcon? Again, you're delusional.

Don't worry, Wake. A lot smashers write Leffen off (and don't like him), and so won't bother learning from him. So we're safe.

I think I can get as good results as them at least, does that i mean I'm more skilled than them or is it that Ganon has that actual potential?

 

[ShroudedOne]

I would opt for that meaning that your more skilled, tbh.

Yeah, Jman's style worked very well against Peach. He was always very confident in his vs Peach game, and I think there's a friendly or two floating around from Pound 4 (?), and they were back and forth, iirc.

 

[Froggy]

I would opt for that meaning that your more skilled, tbh.

Yeah, Jman's style worked very well against Peach. He was always very confident in his vs Peach game, and I think there's a friendly or two floating around from Pound 4 (?), and they were back and forth, iirc.

Yeah, it would take multiple Ganons doing as well as Falcon's for him to be on the same level to be believable.

 

[HoChiMinhTrail]

inb4 more mediocre falcon combos thats been done 1038108310times get "top10" spots

please

darkrain breaks this game, if you don't understand that you are a ****ing idiot. $20 mm at apex, i really want to dominate your candy *** in this game.

 

[LittleBoyLarry]

Lol I remember when everyone used to hate Kage on the boards. Now everyone hates Leffen..

 

[Bones0]

Yeah, it would take multiple Ganons doing as well as Falcon's for him to be on the same level to be believable.

Fail logic since there's way more Falcon players than Ganon players.

 

[Divinokage]

Lol I remember when everyone used to hate Kage on the boards. Now everyone hates Leffen..

Well maybe 3 years ago. =P

Well there was only Linguini capable of being a true rival to me as a Ganon main. Now there's nobody which means the levels of Ganons in general just isn't high enough up there yet.. or I guess it takes true bravery to take on a character like this and perform that good. I'm pretty sure not many are willing to take on the hard road when they can win with a better character already.

It takes a dash of madness to do something like that.

 

[DoH]

Glad to know you admit you're actually ****ing crazy

 

[Divinokage]

Well you should've seen Mango and I drunk playing Melee, that **** was crazy.

 

[-ACE-]

Lol, true bravery... you ****ing love Ganon man, lol you wouldn't have it any other way

 

[HoChiMinhTrail]

Well maybe 3 years ago. =P

Well there was only Linguini capable of being a true rival to me as a Ganon main. Now there's nobody which means the levels of Ganons in general just isn't high enough up there yet.. or I guess it takes true bravery to take on a character like this and perform that good. I'm pretty sure not many are willing to take on the hard road when they can win with a better character already.

It takes a dash of madness to do something like that.

I think it just depends on what character you have the most fun with. I havn't really dedicated my time to using fox or falco not because I'm trying to be different, or "take the hard road", but more so because I just have no real interest in learning the characters. They just don't appeal to me.

 

[Divinokage]

Well that might be true... heh. But I mean I still think it's possible to train yourself to have a better feel for any characters. Even if you didn't like one at first, they all offer something different which is enjoyable. You can definitely get better with any character you want.