MegaMafia | Day 4 - Mafia wins!

[#HBC | marshy]

guys the alliance thing wasn't really meant to be taken seriously

omni's above post is crap.

yes i've been defending iggy. no ****. i've blatantly said "iggy is town" and now it becomes suspicious? how the hell is reasoning for a wiki lynch and fosing chaco suspicious? chaco totally minimized wiki's fluff posts into "he's lurking" using silly stalker tactics

and yes I AM considering a new target because i'm not positive on wiki. did you read my post?

and no, "ugh" is not scum marshy. "ugh" is pissed off marshy tired of this crap town. i really did expect you to use that stupid reasoning though. sadly this isn't aimafia

you just regurgitated my post and said "that's suspicious"

 

[Chaco]

He is actively lurking. Agree or disagree? He has posted no content? Agree or disagree?

Your FoS on me was for pointing out Wiki was actively lurking? Yes or no?

"Ugh" is pissed of Marshy, huh? Are you tired of our crap town? Well saying so and the actions you are exhibiting is not at all helping this "crap" town. I don't know why you suddenly turned over a new leaf on us, but I'm not only seeing it here. I'm seeing it within Vengeful as well. Yes, I am metaing you. And honestly, you've contributed very little as well. I would not be joking within, I dunno, a few days in front of the deadline. Which is exactly what you did. Why did you continually push the idea of an alliance? Was it meant to be a flummox? Why are you vexing Omni now? You do make a valid point though, this is not AIM Mafia. With that being said, you and Omni need to put your little ***** fit aside, and get with it.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

He is actively lurking. Agree or disagree? He has posted no content? Agree or disagree? Your FoS on me was for pointing out Wiki was actively lurking? Yes or no?

yes, yes, kinda. when you mentioned a wiki lynch i saw more of an emphasis on his lurking as opposed to his little content. then i saw some other players describe a wiki lynch as a lurker lynch which i don't really agree with

"Ugh" is pissed of Marshy, huh? Are you tired of our crap town? Well saying so and the actions you are exhibiting is not at all helping this "crap" town. I don't know why you suddenly turned over a new leaf on us, but I'm not only seeing it here. I'm seeing it within Vengeful as well. Yes, I am metaing you. And honestly, you've contributed very little as well. I would not be joking within, I dunno, a few days in front of the deadline. Which is exactly what you did.

what. wiki wasn't being taken seriously as a lynch candidate before i joined. i'm not sure what more i can contribute other than try to peg peoples' alignment. what do you expect?

and i can't comment on the vengeful thing. it's ongoing. however i can say this attack on me is ********. it's like as soon as i make a decent post trying to make progress people jump on it instead of agreeing or disagreeing with my metagaming. which is how, y'know, town makes progress. i was trying something other than gutting

Why did you continually push the idea of an alliance? Was it meant to be a flummox?

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Why are you vexing Omni now?

because his "case" on me is terrible and if he's town then he's the kind of player scum will keep alive to get behind for a mislynch

 

[Chaco]

I just wanted to hear it from you. Now onto Wiki, my case on him is not that of just his lurking. It is because he has posted absolutely no content and that he has been actively lurking. Also, he has not once defended posting no content. Or has made an attempt to post content that I have seen.

Now comes this question: What do you feel we should do in the current situation? We have no time to come up with another lynch candidate in the time provided, so it's either; No Lynch, Lynch Iggy, or Lynch Wiki.

And as far as Omni goes, I agree the case is terrible.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

DUMB CASE AGAINST MARSHY. HE ALWAYS SECOND GUESSES HlMSELF. HE DID IN TNM ATLEAST.

CHACO YOU FLIP FLOP LIKE CRAZY

 

[Omni]

unvote: Marshy

I've never seen a town Marshy act like that since I've been playing, but if you guys can all vouch for him in past games then I'll admit I was wrong.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

unvote wiki vote rockin

 

[Chaco]

unvote wiki vote rockin

I'm assuming this is supposed to answer my question. Care to justify?

 

[Rockin]

Gah! sorry I've been a bit inactive. ><;;

Lynching Iggy will give us the most information regardless of how you may feel. All the information we have received thus far revolves around him: Macman's post restrition, Warlord's strange behavior, possible ties with Xsyven, slight confirmation of whether 2 Master Robot's will exist from the same game, Indy ties, etc.

Hey, I just want to give a heads up saying that thing you quoted was meant to be meaning 'Iggy's lynch will give us more information then a wiki lynch atm'

I don't have much of a defense because there isn't that much of an argument against me except that I'm lurking. I guess my best defense is to just post more. But I don't think you guys would gain much from lynching me information wise , as people have stated.

Don't just post more. Tell us how you feel about the situation and discussion on hand.

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UNVOTE,
VOTE: WlKl

Curious, why you changed your vote?

I'm calling BS on those people then. Only thing close to that is that Grenade Man likes to get hurt or in other words he is a masochist. I've checked around and I haven't found anything about Grenade Man not being able to tell from friend from foe. So until they can show me proof, then they're lying. And yes, I even checked the Megaman wiki site, nothing was shown about him not being able to tell who is friend or who is a foe.

This is the same person that's been looking at flavor a bit too hard... >_>;;

Go to Wikipedia, type in Robot Master: scroll down to Grenade Man.

Ugh. Major frown on Chaco >=/ Giving Mafs a list

You could've just quoted from the website ><;;

unvote wiki vote rockin

I HOPE that's just a pressure vote...

 

[Rockin]

Right now, I'm gonna go to work. I'm sorry I havn't been posting much. My internet is off and my only choices are my grandmother's computer or the libarey >>

I just want to say that I'm officially not going with a Iggy lynch >>. A Chaco lynch seems fine in my opinon, cause he just doesn't seem to know who to really lynch and is just sideing with any lynch that seems to hold some sort of info >>

If there is a day on Monday, I'll be a bit more active then

 

[Chaco]

I just want to say that I'm officially not going with a Iggy lynch >>. A Chaco lynch seems fine in my opinon, cause he just doesn't seem to know who to really lynch and is just sideing with any lynch that seems to hold some sort of info >>

I'm not siding with just any lynch, or else I'd be next to Marshy on you? I haven't agreed with the Xsy speculation, so I really do not get where you are pulling this from.

And also, Rockin. I do believe you were one of the few who originally said they wanted to lynch Iggy because it would give us the most info. Then why the sudden change? We have to get started out somehow. Information from a lynch will do that. Agree?

 

[Rockin]

And also, Rockin. I do believe you were one of the few who originally said they wanted to lynch Iggy because it would give us the most info. Then why the sudden change? We have to get started out somehow. Information from a lynch will do that. Agree?

This will be my final post for the day

Agree and disagree. I agree that I want to lynch Iggy for that we may gain a lot of information. Any other lynch at this point will either give us little to no information needed.

The thing I disagree that I'm not entirely sure if a Iggy lynch would be the best course of action. Would it give us information? Yes. Will it help us get closer to finding out scum? Could be.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

no it isn't chaco. i'm doubting both of those choices. i'm seriously considering going for smashman because i think i may be too forgiving. the way he's posting is IDEAL for scum regardless of alliance. if he's town then they'll just leave him alive and continue his flavor speculation

smashman, wiki, rockin, iggy, mentos, hando, you guys all need to take stances. the deadline is tomorrow. who's the play? is it really just "wiki or iggy"? if it is who are your choices outside of them?

starting to feel like spidey maf. aka this town is terrible and probably made one of worst day ones ever

 

[#HBC | Mac]

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT MARSHY? WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER TOWN HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. lT'S D1 FOR CHRIST SAKES. YOU'RE REALLY QUICK TO CRITICIZE BUT I DON'T SEE YOU BRINGING ANYTHING TO THE TABLE.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i'd rather them have not tunnel and decide on a lynch quicker. it wasn't meant to be personal and i thought it was obvious that town has to play optimally with the numbers situation

 

[smashman90]

This is the same person that's been looking at flavor a bit too hard... >_>;;

Rockin, I'm not about to get into another argument here considering the day is almost over.

@ Chaco, Wiki is not overly accurate. The only websites that I have found that have mentioned him attacking others have been on are two wikisites. Then Megaman Wiki didn't have info (yea, I know, kinda hypocritical here) about it. Plus I've checked a few other megaman sites and none of those have mentioned Grenade Man attacking others. But then again, there are multiple versions of Megaman 8 (such as the anniversary collection version, the Sega Saturn version, blah blah blah), so it could be possible that somebody got that info from one of the alternate versions. But either way, I still doubt that Grenade Man is the Indy. Besides that, why do you think that Iggy would claim a character with a potential Indy possiblity?

As for where I take a stance, again I'm currently thinking a no lynch. We really don't have much to work with here and what little info we have doesn't seem to be enough for me atleast to vote on somebody. There's been a few people who annoy me, but again that's not enough for me to vote on them.

 

[Handorin]

I've had to think about this for awhile today because I have work tomorrow. So I have decided to

Vote: Iggy

As previously stated, I feel we gain much more info by this lynch regardless of the outcome. Even if some of the others we have looked at or discussed are more likely scum, I think it's better to take a risk here so we can pinpoint things later.

/kind of lazy post, but sufficient for now imo

 

[#HBC | marshy]

everyone keeps talking about getting info from an iggy lynch. be more specific? or is it just "if iggy flips scum then we have a lead on marshy because xsyven "knew" the restriction"? that's the justification we're going for in a game that allows so few mislynches?

thi s

 

[Chaco]

I didn't say Indy Smash, I've said Iggy is town.

 

[Handorin]

I think there are a few things (ie. Warlord's gutsy move) that point toward indy.

Somewhat what you said, Marshy

and because there has been so much discussion about him from nearly everyone (if not everyone) that we will be able to gauge stuff down the road.

Not all results are immediate.

 

[mentosman8]

I do agree that some things have pointed to Iggy being indie. Right now, I think his lynch gives us the most information to work with. As has been said, he has been such a strong conversation piece today there's the most to look at depending on how he flips.

Wiki, I do agree has been posting mostly fluff and not very often, but has definitely not been helping much.

After those two, smashman would certainly be my third choice. Simply put, the way he is playing is not helping us at all(also his "you guys are wasting time scumhunting" line bugs the hell outta me.), and he's managing to not be helpful while posting a lot more than wiki. On one hand, I have seen him flavor hunt before, which is the only thing holding me back from pushing his lynch right now, but he's still high up on my suspicions.

If my vote count is right, it's currently 3 votes Iggy, 3 votes Wiki. Since this is a game where if the votes were split, for right now I'm going to Vote: Iggy. I think we'll get more to work with from how he flips than Wiki at the moment, and I still think there's a good chance he's indie. I will likely re-read the thread tonight or tomorrow after work and my vote may change, this is just my best thought for the moment.

 

[Chaco]

Seems like we're going with Iggy. <.<;

 

[Ignatius]

To Marshys question as to who I would be leaning towards for a lynch candidate, I'd be leaning towards more of a NL option, but I could also see the argument against Wiki for coasting through most of toDay as well.

If everyone seems to think that the most infmarion is gained from me flipping town, I guess its the call that needs to be made. As it stands you'll confirm that I didn't have any links to anyone, and metagame wise you'll know that robot masters can come from the same game.

 

[mentosman8]

Honestly, I'm not really opposed to a no lynch. The only reason I put my vote on Iggy is because of the two tied, he was the one that would give us more to read from how he was talked about today. If a couple people vote for no lynch, I may very well switch my vote over and save our available mislynch for tomorrow.

 

[Chaco]

Well, I still think that Wiki has a lot freaking higher chance of scum, and were merely playing into the scum by lynching a most likely townie.

Wiki hasn't posted for ****. And we're lynching an active player who most everyone has confirmed as town/indy. **** doesn't make sense.

 

[mentosman8]

That's just the thing Chaco, I lean more toward indie than town on Iggy, which is why I'm not entirely opposed to his lynch. However, I'm not sure as since Iggy replaced Warlord, he has appeared much more townish. This is why I would be willing to go for a no lynch, but it would require others to be voting for it. Wiki I'm giving Wiki the benefit of the doubt today, and hoping he can give us something to work with tomorrow, due to his comments about moving into his dorm. There's a lot better reason to justify an Iggy lynch than a Wiki lynch at the moment.

 

[Scav]

DAY 1 VOTE COUNT
Ignatius - 4 (Evil Eye, Rockin, Handorin, Mentosman)
Wikipedia - 2 (Chaco, Macman)
Rockin - 1 (Marshy)

Not voting: Ignatius, Omni, Smashman, Wikipedia

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The deadline is Monday, August 31st, at 11:59pm central.

 

[mentosman8]

And it's official: I fail at adding and subtractingXD

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Well, I still think that Wiki has a lot freaking higher chance of scum, and were merely playing into the scum by lynching a most likely townie.

Wiki hasn't posted for ****. And we're lynching an active player who most everyone has confirmed as town/indy. **** doesn't make sense.

this. anyone who's voting iggy is dumb. mentos is wasting our mislynch to go for an indy. arghghgh

Somewhat what you said, Marshy

and because there has been so much discussion about him from nearly everyone (if not everyone) that we will be able to gauge stuff down the road.

Not all results are immediate.

this is total crap. you don't even have an idea of what to expect. iggy is not the play

unvote rockin vote wiki

iggy, omni, wiki, why aren't you guys voting?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

also chaco and macman are much more trustworthy than hando and rockin

 

[Rockin]

thi s

Yeah, gonna try and explain that part.

And it's official: I fail at adding and subtractingXD

Don't worry, Scav fails at that too

Scav, I've actually unvoted a few pages ago, but don't worry. Gonna be voting on him again very shortly (even though I said I wasn't going to)

 

[#HBC | Mac]

UNVOTE VOTE: lGGY

 

[Ignatius]

iggy, omni, wiki, why aren't you guys voting?

As I said, I was vote blocked.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

UNVO Te

 

[mentosman8]

Unvote Mac put him at L-1, we need to hold off a bit. I'm strongly debating switching from Iggy to a no lynch. I feel in a game this tight on numbers a lynch with the reason being lurking is a bad idea. The reason I had my vote on Iggy there is quite simply, I feel there is more legitimate reason to believe he is indie than there is to believe Wiki is scum. For right now, and this may change again by the end of the night, Vote: No lynch. We've only got one mislynch to work with, and I'm not sure I'm comfortable with either candidate right now.

 

[mentosman8]

Ninja'd by Mac's unvoteXD

 

[#HBC | Mac]

l'D RATHER NO LYNCH TOMORROW IF NEED BE.

 

[Rockin]

Gah, all that searching and such killed most of my time at the libarey, so I gotta make it short

Marshy, there is a lot of information we can gain from a Iggy lynch. Such as if there's more then one Robot Master from the same game, if the indie is truely flesh and blood and not flavored like Grenade Man, as well as other such things. There are other questions that could probably be answered as well, so with that

Vote: Iggy

 

[Ignatius]

if the indie is truely flesh and blood and not flavored like Grenade Man, as well as other such things. There are other questions that could probably be answered as well

How does me flipping town as grenade man determine if the indy is a robot or not?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Marshy, there is a lot of information we can gain from a Iggy lynch. Such as if there's more then one Robot Master from the same game, if the indie is truely flesh and blood and not flavored like Grenade Man, as well as other such things. There are other questions that could probably be answered as well, so with that

why is knowing if there is more than one robot master from the same game important at all. scav himself said "you guys should scumhunt" and the way town is playing this game (justifying actions with flavor nonsense) is a big reason they lost in hp mafia where m3d gave a similar warning

knowing the indy is "not flavored like grenade man" is also terrible. that last sentence shows that you're not even planning ahead just like hando. seriously dumb or scum?