HeroMystic
Legacy of the Mario
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http://www.twitch.tv/evenmatchupgaming/v/3591350Does anyone know where we can view those matches of Ally?
5:32:44 Ally vs M2K
6:55:00 Ally vs NAKAT
7:32:00 Ally vs Will
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So after watching the matches (in fact I would recommend watching the Top 8 matches. They're all really good), I have some things to say about Mario.
I'm gonna be honest, Ally hasn't done anything that I haven't found out in the lab. He simply played Mario and used his fundamentals very well. Honestly, this makes me glad because it lines up perfectly with how I opened in The Metagame Thread. Ally did not worry about comboing everything. He simply played patient, reacted to openings, and punished accordingly. He even used F-throw to increase edgeguarding opportunities (the commentators didn't really understand this, saying he should have used D-throw instead, but DI only allows D-throw > U-air to work and that is seriously not worth it), and used B-throw to increase damage when he knew that attack strings were not an option.
There are some mistakes Ally made that could have allowed him to string more true combos (he kept missing D-throw > F-air for instance), but overall I have complete respect for Ally's Mario because it matches almost perfectly with how I play Mario, just more refined and experienced.
He also confirms that U-Smash is really ****ing good. F-Smash is only usable for hard reads, but U-Smash makes up for that for being extremely reliable for ledge pressure and baiting during edgeguards. In fact, edgeguarding and corner pressure seems to be the biggest factor in Smash 4 right now.
FLUDD and Fireball are also very important for edgeguarding because they stop horizontal movement, forcing characters to recover vertically, allowing Mario to go for stage spikes or nerfing recoveries with Cape. This allows Mario to have less of a disadvantage against Diddy Kong (who doesn't seem to be a dominant force in this game anymore after watching that Top 8 bracket).
So yeah, Mario definitely has less tools than he did in Brawl, but looking at it from the perspective of Smash 4, Mario is definitely a strong contender due to the Smash 4 Engine and the majority of characters getting balanced out. I still don't believe he's top/high tier though. In fact, I'm expecting major revisions of tier lists in the coming months. Rosalina is probably going to fall out of Top Tier while Ness, Shulk, and DK will absolutely rise up, Diddy Kong won't be seen as an S-Tier anymore either. So, I'm still going to wait and see before calling out a tier for Mario. But, I am going to agree and say Mario is a good character and a solid contender in this game.
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