Mafia Sleepover: The Finale [ Town Wins - Pokemon Sight seeing]

[#HBC | Leviathan]

Levi is dumb if he thinks murder had no chance of being nk'd. That's a terrible reason to target them. There are good reasons to target Murder with his claimed role, but that's not one of them.

...read, please? I'm pretty sick of people cherrypicking my points and reasons for their convenience.

The reason Bunzy wanted to lynch someone who could confirm his role is because he's scum. You are all over the place and it seems you enjoy flinging mud everywhere. I would like to see what your reads are after Amidamaru answers your question.

 

[Kantrip]

Levi walk me through Arcane's bad D1 that you're referring to

 

[Kantrip]

...read, please? I'm pretty sick of people cherrypicking my points and reasons for their convenience.

The reason Bunzy wanted to lynch someone who could confirm his role is because he's scum. You are all over the place and it seems you enjoy flinging mud everywhere. I would like to see what your reads are after Amidamaru answers your question.

I'm not accusing people just because I'm asking for clarification. Just checking facts and asking questions before I jump to conclusions.

I did read you saying murder was unlikely to be killed which I think is totally untrue. Bad reason to target them

 

[Dabuz]

vote: Jexs

Do you have more to say about Jex than yesterDay?

Bunzy why are you wanting to lynch someone who can confirm his role?

He can confirm himself as town to someone toNight or we can lynch him. Simple as that.

I don't want to lynch him now, hence the unvote.

 

[Kantrip]

@ JeXs ca

Do you have more to say about Jex than yesterDay?


I don't want to lynch him now, hence the unvote.

Do you realize you're asking questions to someone who can't respond to you?

 

[Kantrip]

@Levi - Bunzy realized he was being rash and doesn't want to lynch you now. Is he still scum?

 

[#HBC | Leviathan]

I did read you saying murder was unlikely to be killed which I think is totally untrue. Bad reason to target them

1.] I mentioned that he was loud. Think about it from my point of view.

D1 I spend trying to get Bunzy lynched but am largely ignored in favor of Murderbush and Protean pushing J and myself. The day ends with a deadline lynch with zero votes outside of J and myself minus my own on Bunzy. Night 1, I understand that I am probably going to get mislynched D2. What are my options? Try to talk sense into Town? That is an exercise in futility considering the J lynch and my repeated attempts at swatting off my attackers yesterday. No point in wasting my time. I opted to use my role (which is 1-shot by the way, I'm not sure if I mentioned this. The reason I get to use it again is due to the presumed roleblock) to reach the loudest and most vocal of my attackers because if I get him off of me I can probably get most of Town to do the same because most of the wagon was sheeping him. This is why I mentioned that he was loud.

2.] Arcane's D1: nothingness, nothingness, BarDulL push, nothingness, bad J push, bad Leviathan push, nothingness, bad J push over the edge. If he is Town, I do think that he is onto something with BarDulL because their interactions scream of TvS to me. If BarDulL is Town, that has Arcane swinging 0-for-3 when 2 of those were pretty obviously Town. I don't believe he is that bad. If BarDulL flips scum, that means Arcane was bringing a lot of heat onto the slot unnecessarily as scumbuddies to the point where I doubt it was staged. It all hinges on BarDulL.

 

[Lore]

@ Lore Why do you think scum chose to kill Protean?

That's the question you are being asked.

Hm. Good question. I feel like me diving into this would just be trying to figure out wifom; the simplest answer, gaining few connections from the flip, doesn't work since he had plenty of activity. No idea, how about you?

I may come up with something as I reread. I'm going to be looking at Protean and Bunz, specifically; Levi focused on the pair, and I want to decide if it's right to focus on Bunz. Plus it will solidify my read on Levi. Still feeling town, minus the claim seeming a bit odd. But we already have one odd role (restless spirit), so everything is a possibility when it comes to roles.

@ #HBC | Leviathan Your role seems a bit odd (especially after seeing a Courier in Monster, which is a similar concept in terms of sending messages), but I'm fine with seeing if your next message goes through toNight. Your play overall has been pretty town and makes me feel fine with "testing" your claim toNight. I doubt my reread will change how I feel on your slot.

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

ZenRan concerning with all their calls for people to claim.

Can I get a reads list from you guys?

Levi > Dabuz scum. Possible WK scum as well. How about you?

 

[JeXs]

Do you think we should be looking at murder? Protean's vote on him makes me wonder.

 

[JeXs]

Bunzy please start to actually read before you post.

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

I'm not speaking for zen. But I would say that it doesn't mean anything outside of implying that protein strongly thinks that murder had a hand in it due to meta reasons. That's all. Unless a restless spirit could include other factors, but I do not think that is the case.

How do you feel about levi/dabuz, Jex?

 

[JeXs]

Bunzy is looking really bad from his posts which indicates that he doesn't read the thread(or only looking at votes and levi's posts) so I currently have a scum lean on him. Levi is town and if he can confirm it toNight all the better.

 

[JeXs]

Unless someone comes in here flat out claiming they somehow stopped your role, I don't have a reason to believe you. You're my scum suspect, I am pretty damn sure you will flip scum, I don't want to give you another Day and Night to be scummy.

Have you ever thought that scum will have a roleblocker in which chase they obviously won't say that they blocked levi?

 

[JeXs]

EBWOP
case*

 

[Kantrip]

Ran so it was Zen that voted murder right?

Murder what do you think of Bardull? How about the people who want him dead; do they have a case?

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

Yeah it was Zen. That post saying it was me was a joke.

 

[Dabuz]

Have you ever thought that scum will have a roleblocker in which chase they obviously won't say that they blocked levi?

Possible but that requires both a scum roleblocker and scum deciding to hit Levi out of all the non-scum.

Ami, why did you vote Murderbush?

 

[Rockin]

vote: murderbush

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

Possible but that requires both a scum roleblocker and scum deciding to hit Levi out of all the non-scum.

Ami, why did you vote Murderbush?

Normally I'd agree with you with regard to setting up TvS scenarios, but there are scenarios when it's very likely and that's when it's with "duo" players. And by a duo players, I mean two players who are simply the best at reading each other. Two players who know the meta more deeply on each other than other players do.

Kantrip-Sokr
Xat-Das
Rake-Orbo

For instance I made this claim both days in FE: D1 on soup and D2 on Ran. You said it yourself that after soup's death you were ready to come after me D2, and after Ran's death everyone was ready to come after me D3. When the cohesion between duo players is off, most often one of them is scum. Not always, but often.

Cause of this. I found Ryker-Laundry interaction kind of off setting. Before the day began, I figured that our slot would be night killed if Murder was scum. But Protean's lynch made sense as well. I don't really see how a Protean night kill benefited scum. If anything it benefits town. Murder getting rid of one of his duo players (Ryker and Laundry have been playing together for 7 years as he said) is pretty much the only sensible reason. Protean's vote on Murder made me feel he felt the same way.

After I caught up in my reading, I changed my mind on Murderscum. His play has been pretty town/protown. I didn't have his play to weigh against the night kill speculation before, but now that I do it holds much more weight than the speculation.

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

There is one person I feel would be smart enough to kill Protean- as a means to bringing attention to Murder though. The same person who is attempting Murder to out information on his role.

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

*protean lynch = protean night kill. I'm sure you knew what I meant.

@ Kantrip what were the reasons you were initially suspicious of Werekill before you entered the game and what made you feel better about him?

@#HBC | FrozeηFlame What do you think about what I presented on Werekill yesterday, particularly the opportunistic bit?

 

[#HBC | Leviathan]

There is one person I feel would be smart enough to kill Protean- as a means to bringing attention to Murder though. The same person who is attempting Murder to out information on his role.

 

[Dabuz]

So basically, the only thing that makes you dislike Murder is the possibility of him wanting to kill a player who reads him best? However you acknowledge that's pure speculation and play is townie, bueno.

Between me, JeX, and Werekill, who do you want lynched the most?

 

[Lore]

There is one person I feel would be smart enough to kill Protean- as a means to bringing attention to Murder though. The same person who is attempting Murder to out information on his role.

... Really? ****in really? This is quite possibly the single dumbest point I've seen against Levi so far.

 

[Dabuz]

Oh, and Levi if he's still in your lynch pool.

 

[JeXs]

... Really? ****in really? This is quite possibly the single dumbest point I've seen against Levi so far.

Well I see Ran failed the not posting for 24 hours thing :3

I just started a read through and noticed something. I feel the following post indicates Levi and Jex being mafia together.
I find it to be of odds that Levi took notice that Jex was the only of the 12 players not to have confirmed. At first I didn't even realize this is why Levi made that statement. As I did not take notice of Jex not having posted. Judging by my perception, the perception of an knowledgeless towny, I do not believe Levi started the game knowledgeless. I believe that he started out the game with the knowledge that Jex is was his scum mate; so he was inclined to notice that Rockin started the game without Jex confirming.

 

[Kantrip]

I'll quote the Werekill posts when I'm at a computer for you

 

[Arcane Inferno]

3.] I targeted Murderbush because I knew he wouldn't be nightkilled; his reads are bad and he has been pushing this Town face first into the toilet for the entirety of the game with no hope of stopping him outside of mod confirmation. He's loud, and people seem to latch onto what he says, so by opening his eyes to his wrongness I was hoping to make the thread more productive than let him continue polluting it.

Care to explain to me how exactly you know his reads are bad?

Sorry but the "waahhhhhhh Im town and he's scum reading me!!" argument doesn't carry much weight. Considering you know, you can do this thing called lie about what alignment you are to the rest of us.

Is this some extremely passive aggressive way of saying that you think murderbush is town but an idiot and the only way you could possibly get him off your back was through your alleged power? Man, play the victim card more plz. Lets not act like you're the shining beacon of towniness this game. You can just be honest with us and say you were desperate to get murderbush off your back. You're not doing a good job hiding how survivalist you're playing right now while trying to pass it off as legitimately good play.

In shorter terms, pretty much this:

So Protean suspects Murder due to the fact that they got killed.

Levi is dumb if he thinks murder had no chance of being nk'd. That's a terrible reason to target them. There are good reasons to target Murder with his claimed role, but that's not one of them.

4.] Arcane, you forgot option 3: You don't know how to analyze the use of this role. If I didn't claim, then I run the risk of having a Town Roleblocker continue blocking me and depriving Town of that information. There is nothing funny about the bolded; either I am lying or not and if it's the former, it will come out in time. I am linked to another role in this game (barring Murderbush having some kind of strange facet to his role which is unlikely) from here on out and I can't wiggle out of that in terms of a fakeclaim. I appreciate the condescension though.

****ing lol

the day I take lessons in role strategy analysis from you is the day that right wing fiscal policy will actually benefit the general populations of developed nations. (hint: it'll never happen!)

So let me get this straight. Let's assume you are what you claim to be.

You tell us that your goal was to more or less get town to stop being distracted by your slot. An admirable goal.

As a friendly neighbor, obviously your goal is to ensure that you get cleared to a town role, ideally one the many players read as town, so that you can get the town cred you need and get people to not focus on you anymore and basically treat you like a clear. With this in mind, and given what reasoning you've given for choosing murderbush, that all adds up.

Here's where it stops adding up. You decided to literally come into the thread with ZERO pressure on you, and ****ing claim that you FAILED TO USE YOUR ROLL.

Let's go through that again. You legitimately thought that claiming a role that you have absolutely NO WAY to confirm, under NO pressure, was going to serve your stated goal of getting the town to not be distracted by you? When you could very easily be lying about this entire claim in an attempt to buy yourself time because you're rattled from yesterday's push on you?

I'm not kidding when I say this play reeks of desperation and survivalist drive. Not to mention a distinct lack of foresight. How exactly do you think claiming this role, assuming you're town, is going to help you get yourself confirmed? If we go ahead and assume you actually got roleblocked and that you are aware of this fact, how exactly did you conclude that claiming that you have this power was going to make you any more likely to successfully use it? You LITERALLY argued that you claimed because you assumed that if you didn't claim, that you would be constantly roleblocked.

Lets go over this one again. Its a doozy.

Levi is arguing that he CLAIMED A PR because he thought that by claiming, it would somehow make his LESS LIKELY TO BE CONSTANTLY ROLEBLOCKED and thus assist him in achieving his stated goal of using his power to get himself cleared.

Is it just me, or does that make literally zero ****ing sense?

Last time I checked, the best way to get yourself constantly roleblocked is to ****ing claim a PR that creates clears. Pretty sure that's begging the scum to RB you, especially without a flipped doc yet.

If I had your alleged role, I wouldve went into day 2 and ya know, played normally as if nothing happened and tried to get people to see that I was town without OPENLY TELLING THE SCUM I WAS A PR WITH THE POTENTIAL TO CLEAR MYSELF WHEN MY GOAL WAS TO GET MY CLEAR SENT OUT. Like I seriously don't get how your thought process was allegedly "oh **** I got RB'd, GUESS I BETTER GO CLAIM OTHERWISE I MIGHT GET RB'D FOR THE WHOLE GAME!!!!" Had you not claimed Id be willing to bet you wouldnt get RBd all game. What games have you played in where a scumteam just constantly roleblocked one unclaimed slot for an entire game? Like actually though, I don't understand how you made the assumption that you would get blocked all game.

If you get RB'd for the rest of the game, you literally did that to yourself. But of course that would be extra convenient for you to be able to say was going on if you're scum just desperately trying to get murderbush off you with a fake claim out of left field that you can't back up. Being able to say "oh **** welp I guess I got roleblocked again guys!" every day since you're the only claimed PR makes it easy for you to just sit on this claim without ever having to put up some proof.

This is just ****ing grimy as ****, and the fact that you're trying to defend it as a good, strategic protown play just makes it worse.

We can still communicate with that slot.

@Protean- :

Vote Leviathan if you are voting us due to a conclusive night action.

Vote Amidamaru if you are voting us due to a non-conclusive night action.

Vote Jexs if you are voting us because of the NK.

Vote Werekill if you just changed your mind.

Vote Arcane Inferno if it's something else entirely.

So Protean voted Jexs and then went back to murderbush, so it looks like Protean is saying that the fact the he was NK'd makes him think murderbush was responsible.

Murderbush came out pretty vocally yesterday saying he hard read Protean as town. Pretty certain that was ryker hard reading WL as town IIRC. Obviously these two have an extensive mafia history. Anyone more familiar with it than I wanna fill me in as to whether or not Ryker would go for the buddying route as scum with an active and vigorous WL in the game?

@mUrDErBUSh is that what you think Protean is thinking here?

@#HBC | FrozeηFlame What do you think about what I presented on Werekill yesterday, particularly the opportunistic bit?

Not sure what you're referring to. Link please?

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

Spirit Guide (Z)
Ami
Jex
Murder
Potassium
Bardull
Gova
Arcane
dabuz
Levi
Werekill

I think the J lynch was really silly. It was pretty bad for me to say yesterday that a levi lynch would likely be a mislynch. We really should have lynched him yesterday. Now we just have another day that is taken from lynching Werekill.

Werekill to me is as good as a cop guilty. His play is really transparent to me.

Levi has said a lot of things that I have liked, and I didn't disagree much with his reads posts as much as Murder did. The main thing that sticks out about levi to me is his read and interaction with Werkill. It feels so forced and reach to me. I can understand people not scum reading Werekill, but if anything he should be null. A town read is really pushing it. And the points that Levi used in his reads post were really stretched. I think Levi/Were are s/s attempting to display a hard town read of each other. When you look at these town reads simply do not look genuine. Almost everyone has seen Levi as suspicious or scummy; but Werekill flat out claimed that he would 100% not vote Levi yesterday. His hard town read of him just came out of no where. Especially when you consider his claim to supposedly only have town/scum Leans.

dabuz is a tough cookie. He's been really suspicious to me all game, but he is not playing to the scum meta I have on him from FEA. Although now that I think about it, his defending of Jex throughout yesterday reminds me of his white knighting of Ruy in FEA. It's just that I remember dabuz having a really hard time trying to produce content and fake scum hunting that game. If he is scum, he has really improved because he is actually asking questions and making cases here. Dabuz is Ran's strongest scum read though and I trust his read on dabuz more than I do mine. I'd also like to make notice that Ran was the only person who correctly read dabuz as scum in FEA. The rest of the cast defended dabuz from Ran since the moment Ran entered the game.

Arcane is uh null.

Gova is null.

Bardull is null slightly town.

Potassium is slightly town.

Murder, as I said, has been playing incredibly towny/protown.

Jex became transparent town during my read starting from like page 9. I think his thoughts flow naturally and have become pretty easy to follow.


Spirit Guide (R)
Ami
Murder
Bardull
Arcane
Gova
Potassium
Jexs
Were
Levi
Dabuz

Dabuz is simply the scummiest to me because of his lack of pro-town intent, and lack of drive to find scum. His presence is lacking, and he tries to emulate his town play. In his #343, he makes a big post. Most likely to seem pro-town, big wall, but afterwards his play is lacking in between. Zen feels off about the meta not lining up exactly with FEA because there, Dabuz didn't even try. He didn't need to, he was skating along while not even interacting with me (his scumread down the line), yet no one batted an eye. Here he makes an effort to emulate his town play, but his scum still shows. In his #481, he votes Levi with a lack of substance. He's simply re-iterating what was already said in thread, along with lulzy omgus. Finally, he isn't reading the thread carefully enough. His questions are few and far in between. In his #1184, he uses the same wording as in his #481. "So I get the feeling that..." I dislike that he brings that point up in 1184, as if he's trying to say something he isn't actually able to make into a stance. It shows he is having trouble faking stances here or faking concern.

Levi is also one who I feel is trying to emulate his town play. In the mini I had no problems with him, and agreed with his direction. Here he seems to have good reaons, but he vibes off. For example, his backing down of his push on Protein was out of character for him. I would expect him to continue to push him if he genuinely felt he was scum. To me, him switching out was to salvage his play as he was under some heavy attack, especially from Murder, who he was simply appealing to, if I can call it that. Again, his switch to Dabuz was unimpressive. The words still ring in my ear "Well, there's still Dabuz." What kind of drive to find scum and convince the rest of the town is that? This is why I feel they are both scum together, he sits on Dabuz while he may lose his life in the game.

Secondly, on his role. I don't see any reason to let him live after today. First, he connects himself to vague roles, and outs that he feels he may have been roleblocked. He doesn't have confirmation that he was roleblocked, simply that his role failed. I am not willing to wait on role information from others when his is vague itself, and he is suspicious. I can understand Pott saying we are concerning for saying that other roles stepping up to insure that he is legit would be the only thing that holds me back, but I do not want that. Remember that him claiming that vague role would have to force others to claim. So the one who is concerning is Levi himself for forcing that situation. I want his lynch.

Finally, on the night kill speculation. If Levi were scum, it would benefit him to kill off Protean, as out of the cluster of Murder/Protean/Ami/Levi, murdering murder could bring attention to Levi, in time. Nk'ing protean could make some equally doubt Levi/Murder, since both seem to be of the same skill level. @Protean- I'm wondering if this seems legit to you? If so, vote Levi. You scumread him, and I still believe he is scum. Don't lose your way. If you still feel Murder is scum for some other reason (related to the nk), then vote him again.

Werekill. I have him as slight scum because Zen convinced me of it first. I thought it was that he was simply not able to find scum because nothing caught his attention. It took me a while to develop reads as well. I wasn't feeling Protein- at the time. Zen told me that while he first Voted Werekill, that he was not calling Zen out on dumb things while he was doing so at the same time in Monster Mafia. This also shows with how he reacted to our RVS, he simply said "I'm glad you stepped off Jex, I felt it was weird" but he never actually questioned us before we unvoted. Regardless, I agree with Zen's assessment above. Re-reading, Werekill never felt the argument against Levi. He said he felt he was town because he was leading things and would hold things to his chest in his #373 and his #646. As you can see, this post #380 shows that he isn't actually trying to figure out Levi's alignment, saying that he digs his attitude and simply agrees with his protein direction, and states that his reaction might change his opinion while it never really does nor does he make an effort to attain it. I found something odd just now, actually. In his #834, he comes to a conclusion of Dabuz's most recent post. It felt pre-mature, as he only just posted it at 5:48, while he posted the conclusion at 6:09.

Jex is now null. ToDay I have seen a little bit more effort and more 'why' from him. I felt I did ask him alot of questions, but it was me trying to figure out his alignment with what little I got at the time.

Pot is null.
Gova is nulll.
Arcane is null.

Bardull is slight town. I liked that he was seeing the same thing as me with Jex. I would like to see more of Bardull today though.

Murder is town to me. I was confused quite a bit, but the only thing that tripped me up was his re-evaluation on Protean, which turned out correct. I can understand why he may have prioritized others over Jex now, and agree that part of this is because he was the most vocal.

Combined Spirit Guide
Town: Ami, Muder
Town Lean: Bardull, Jex
Null: Potassium, Gova, Arcane
Scum: Were, Dabuz, Levi

Leviathan is the read we both agree on. Zen is willing to support Ran on dabuz and Ran is willing to support Zen on Were. We would like to continue working with Murder as well so right now it's looking like we need to hardbody Levi the **** outta here.

Vote: #HBC | Leviathan

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[Xivii]

@#HBC | FrozeηFlame Mafia Sleepover: The Finale [ Day 2 - Blood, tears, but still livin.]

 

[Dabuz]

The only thing out of place in Ami's post is I don't understand the Bardull town read. Slot has done NOTHING this whole game, look at his stances, his questions, all of his posts, what makes you think he is town?

 

[JeXs]

Ran what happened to your scum read on me? You were already 100% sure that I would flip scum yesterDay.

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

The only thing out of place in Ami's post is I don't understand the Bardull town read. Slot has done NOTHING this whole game, look at his stances, his questions, all of his posts, what makes you think he is town?

I guess just the way he's been posting and the difference from Monster. I could see him as scum though. I wouldn't fight a push on him.

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

my thought process:

jexs says he wants to body levi and bunzy

these are easy go-to lynches because bunzy has been inactive with some presumably questionable play (i say presumably because i haven't looked super closely at his posts while levi is calling out dabunz on it) while levi has a wagon formulating on himself, so in turn these are easy approaches for jexs to make as any alignment.

he lacks a significant amount of substance regarding why he's making these approaches

if he wants levi and bunzy then i'm curious if he has really looked at levi and bunzy's interactions to see if they are scum together. if they aren't scum together but still scum is that an implication that one of them is indy? (pls no indy pls rockin pls ;___; ) i'd really like to hear why he thinks both should die and what he thinks will come of one of those lynches.

conclusion: it's hard for me to discern whether or not jexs is legit town or if he's scumming it up and trying to hop aboard easy pushes at this point in time, but i have no reason to think he's the former 'cause holy mother of gorf there's no substance.

This post stuck out to me on Bardull. As Ghebflame put it, he seemed to be tip-toeing around Jex. And the indy line was weird. idk man; read on him is mostly just a hunch. I'd look at him if the main scumspects turned out to be wrong.

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

@ Dabuz : I have already stated the reasoning for my bardull slight town in thread. I don't recall you ever asking about it then. Regardless, I liked how he came to the same conclusion as me. Earlier in thread.

@ JeXs : I considered letting you have your own space, and I see you doing work today. I have you as null though, and because Werekill jumped up in my scumlist due to Zen convincing me. You are next in line after Werekill. Also, seeing how Werekill interacts with you is another reason I find him suspicious over you now. He asked you a question and you answered, and then he said he found you %100 town. I found that to be too easy of a 'read development'. Plus I have scumreads besides you, it's not like you were my only vote/scumread yesterday.

 

[JeXs]

Which was the question he asked me?

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

@ #HBC | Amidamaru Actually, I don't remember Jexy. Mind explaining him?

I think Jexs is being a bit passive, but he's answering questions at least. He's probably just fading back into the background to avoid attention until the wagon passes because he isn't enjoying the pressure.

... Ok, admittedly that can be more than a bit scummy but I can definitely see it coming from New Town.

@ JeXs I'm curious for a moment, so let's play pretend. All of a sudden you have a mind control ring, and you can convince everyone to unanimously vote for one person and end the Day. Who will you lynch with this power, and why? Give a detailed answer.

Frozen's post has really convinced me even further of the J lynch, and I'm glad J's more likely now than Levi; he's just pretty damn town to me. Same with Jexs who I will be vehemently against lynching toMorrow unless something shocking happens with him.

I think it was these. Plus he's making excuses for you as well, when you yourself said that wasn't the case. I don't remember him asking you much questions, or him asking people much questions at all.

 

[JeXs]

I'm pretty sure he was already town reading me before he asked that question????

 

[Kantrip]

You guys don't think there's at least merit in giving one more night to Levi to possibly allow his ability to work?

Arcane Inferno did some nasty misrepresentation at one point in their case. The rest was ok