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I don't think Ganon beats Luigi, he just doesn't win that badly. You'd be suprised at how much easier it is for ganon to face Luigi than other characters. Its as simple as him getting a few good shields and he's getting good damage.
Man, what the heck are we gonna do about Cheezeballer? The DK matchup is exactly what you're talking about here, I can't stand it.
Back air? Staying above him and using your command grab and down air as opposed to copying his ability? IDK I'd think these would be obvious things. Its not like Luigi is going to chase you in midair, and you should easily powershield or jump over his fireballs. IDK I can't see why Luigi would be that much of a problem for kirby, aside from his edgeguarding. You should have plenty of options that he doesn't have good counters for, like crouching.
Duck hunt cause camp luigi and early tree kills and about peach i feel its 60:40 luigi because has easy time dealing with float and fire ball catches floating peach.
Down air is extremely punishable on shield, and a big issue that a lot of kirby players have with luigi is that he gets out of our combos easily, also since he's so slippery we can't really get much off of down tilt which is one of our better combo starters. Kirby has a point in his crouch where has animation makes luigi's fireball hit him again. Kirby apparently has a positive matchup against Luigi in terms of edge guarding unless Kirby is under Luigi. Powershield is also an option but luigis can wall Kirby out very well with fireball and jab. This video of MikeKirby (one of the better Kirby players) vs John numbers in their grand finals is a pretty good example of the matchup. Kirby can't rush in like on a lot of other characters.
Duck Hunt is a stage that most Kirby's pick but if a Luigi gets a lead he can camp in the trees due to Kirby's poor ground and air speed. Not too sure about the 60:40 though, most peach's don't sit in float all the time they use a technique called QFC (quick float canceling) to move quickly around the stage/luigi. EOE has a match against Mint who has a pretty solid Luigi imo that kind of demonstrates the matchup.
I was talking about using your command grab and down throw so Luigi has to think about his options when he's under you.
They all jumped **** to the now almost dead itself Discord group. Only reason it isn't dead itself yet is because ConCon keeps coming and dropping knowledge.
I don't know if you're a luigi main or not but the luigi meta came to a screeching halt after the nerfs. Luigi doesn't even have the high potential diddy does. Luigi's viability dropped like a rock.
I am a Luigi main along with diddly but I always felt we shouldn't give up we didn't even give him a chance ( only like a month) the only one whos even trying is Mr.Con Con (not saying your not cause I don't know because yours isn't public to my notice sorry if you are). Doesn't luigi down b gimp count for something. Can't we have sunken cause on ZeRo tier list we are 5 spaces away from top tier and this patch can only. All I ask can we at least try and stay positive. You say we can't but Ike a worse character has top 8 at 2 majors we only have been used as a counter pick
See there is still some positivity
It's being worked on Fam. All the D-Throw changed was a guaranteed kill became a 50/50. The Down-B KB change is more significant.
Off of the boards. Boards are dead and full of defeatism. I'd rather talk to people doing lab work.
Yeah cause it's not like LUIGI have Better frame data, aerials, projectile, isn't combo food. Yeah because all he could do was down throw down b.
Yeah it's not like BOWSER and DONKEY KONG have better grab range, more damage, faster air speed, faster ground speed, and better traction. BS "because all he could do was down throw down b" He could set up fireball locks, jab resets, back air, nair, up b, and down air. You're no luigi main if you didn't know that. Bowser and DK literally live off of up throw and that's ok???
Thank you thank you thank you
I'm not sure if this is towards me on particular or more of the fact that your happy someone is just being active on the boards, but either way your are right there has been a lack of activity and I could probably do more to help. Recently have been organizing my own weekly and am also doing a fundraiser tournament in the Summer.
