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Eh, I try to find errors, and things people can improve on, not something that is plain in sight. You do play good, I can't really say something about it except it being good. But then again, I mentioned jab up B, but I think that was because of humourous reasons.^^
Haha, sorry to get defensive. The dash dancing in the beginning was me getting re-used to his slide after not really playing him (thought about dropping him for Ryu). But after this and a few other games, i can say the rewarding feeling i can now have after winning with him (with no character johns thrown back in my face...) is making me regret my initial reaction to the nerf. It took my friend's reminding me that i usally went for read-kills like up smash or DJ air dodge read down B off the top to actually try him again, and now he feels better in the regard.
To be completely honest, it was an option to get into DasBoot's head. He gets very discouraged when you string the same move on him, but I'll certainly consider it next time!
is doc too mainstream now? I was kinda pumped for you to solo him after seeing those games...
I just wanted to show people Doc wasn't trash. I won't solo any character, but if I had to, it'd probably be Luigi. (Well, if I could master his cyclone at least)is doc too mainstream now? I was kinda pumped for you to solo him after seeing those games...
In other news, TFW they nerf your boy but you're just over here ascending to the next power level like:
Idk y i have a natural talent for mashing that just clicks with me (probably from all the action command inputs from Paper Mario), but next time i see you at an event we need to get together amd see what we can do to get you comsistent with it, because that seems to be the literally only hang up for you in bracket is just the jank of cyclone screwing you over.
Glad to see some encouragement!
I can't wait to see his Doc on Youtube since Nairo use him. Well, Zero's undefeated record can't last forever. Everyone has a breaking point, but he still did well on that round against Nairo.
Right. Do you want help or not?
... why didn't I ever though of that. That makes mashing so much easier.
I mean, it's technically possible in the same way that you can technically win a gun fight with a slingshot. I just would never do it. Mashing becomes a lot easier with the help of another button to press. That being said, if you're using the 3DS, a piece of advice for you: have a spasm and hope for the best
I don't really see a way I'm going to do is without using my index finger anyway, so probably not.
I supposed i just have fast thumbs, but i found the index finger technique to be ergonomically more challenging to pull off for myself, at least.
It's fine, man. I'm glad you were able to explore other characters that suited your playstyle. No one really is obligated to play one character.
Still tho, feel a bit bad knowing to have spend so much time on luigi, and him being my favourite character.
Dude, i know exactly how you feel. Just take a break from him, learn some other characters. You'll end up coming back beinf better at weegee because you re-learned a skill through another character. (I.e. My spacing is the best it's ever been since practicing Ryu for fun)
Here's the problem: some of the top players are very biased or extremely bad at analyzing. Esam falls under biased (he thinks pika is #3) and, no offense to Mr. CC, but I'd imagine he's biased for Luigi (though, in Dabuzz's case, I can trust a level headed response most of the time.) I honestly don't go off a top player's words anymore. Personally, Luigi isn't top 10 to me anymore (though he's definitely top 15). Does that mean that I'm not gonna be him anymore? To hell I'm not. This is still, by far, the best Luigi iteration we've had. To stop using Luigi would be stupid. I already put work into him, why stop now? But, back to the point of your post. It's great that some people still see Luigi as a threat (not great for us, but whateverI talked now to Dabuz, Mr.R, ESAM, Mr.CC and i asked them if luigi is still top ten! the result is : MrCC and Mr.R said yes he is and ESAM and Dabuz said he is not anymore top 10. I dont know but maybe Luigi still fine.
). But with so many characters getting noticed and buffed, where's his spot for top 10?
Definitely recover low against falcon, as his recovery is pretty trash. On stage, force him to approach with Fireballs and try to keep a level head and make clear cut choices. Falcons greatest weakness is his awful disadvantage state. He gets comboed so easily and doesn't really have a 'gtfo me' attack like Luigi's Nair. Cyclone 50/50 is decent against him and our early U throw combos do plenty of work to him. Down b gimps and Dair spikes also do him in rather nicely offstage. I might be an outlier, but with Luigi able to exploit Cap's weaknesses more than he can exploit ours, I find this MU to be in Luigi's favor if we play to cheese. Kind of like how we play ganon, but with more respect.After the nerf our state now only sees three Luigis that play him in tournament. Feels good being unique again.
Anyone here have any issues with the Captain Falcon matchup? Now maybe it's just me, but I have been finding this match to be more and more problematic. I literally cannot keep up with Falcon's running speed, not to mention how hazardous being offstage is. All of my laggy tornado and green missile options are a no-go, unless I'm that far away, or I will get stomped. Any suggestions? I'll try to get more footage of me in tournament in this matchup, but we don't have that many particularly strong Captains here, so it would likely be from an Anthers match.
It sounds like you're recovering mid-level when you should be recovering very low, likeAfter the nerf our state now only sees three Luigis that play him in tournament. Feels good being unique again.
Anyone here have any issues with the Captain Falcon matchup? Now maybe it's just me, but I have been finding this match to be more and more problematic. I literally cannot keep up with Falcon's running speed, not to mention how hazardous being offstage is. All of my laggy tornado and green missile options are a no-go, unless I'm that far away, or I will get stomped. Any suggestions? I'll try to get more footage of me in tournament in this matchup, but we don't have that many particularly strong Captains here, so it would likely be from an Anthers match.
G. Stache
said. When edge guarding Falcon, there's two things to keep in mind: 1. Is he recovering low? 2. Is he recovering mid or high? If he's recovering low, that should be a cyclone gimp, which catches Falcon dive. If he recovers mid/high, be cautious that he might raptor boost as a mix up and you'll be the one getting spiked instead.
Gratulations!
I think that Luigi is still high tier, but below top ten since his down throw got nerfed. I won't take their word for it just because they're top level player. Luigi is still a threat, but we need more top level Luigi besides Mr.CC go to big tournaments, stay as him alone unless a backup character is really needed, and win with Luigi. I know his hard Mus aren't easy, but there is no easy way and putting Luigi to the top would be great.I talked now to Dabuz, Mr.R, ESAM, Mr.CC and i asked them if luigi is still top ten! the result is : MrCC and Mr.R said yes he is and ESAM and Dabuz said he is not anymore top 10. I dont know but maybe Luigi still fine.
You're not the only one. While I need to face more good Falcons and do the mu more as Luigi instead of switching to Mario or Rosalina against him, I seem to have almost the same problems that you got against Falcon, but edgeguarding. His running speed is always a problem for me and I keep getting boxed out by his jabs.After the nerf our state now only sees three Luigis that play him in tournament. Feels good being unique again.
Anyone here have any issues with the Captain Falcon matchup? Now maybe it's just me, but I have been finding this match to be more and more problematic. I literally cannot keep up with Falcon's running speed, not to mention how hazardous being offstage is. All of my laggy tornado and green missile options are a no-go, unless I'm that far away, or I will get stomped. Any suggestions? I'll try to get more footage of me in tournament in this matchup, but we don't have that many particularly strong Captains here, so it would likely be from an Anthers match.
Good to hear.
I personally dislike discord/skype groups, simply because it makes the socials even more dead than they already are.
Fine. Do I know you from somewhere?
Rosalina board has a discord group.
Oh, pretty fine to be honest. Love the mix ups, and the random shieldbreaks I get sometimes.
Good to hear you're doing well then.
It's fine. Exams are exams, that's something everyone can relate to.^^Good to hear you're doing well then.
Also, I'm responding this like, 4 days later. Exams!
I'm up on Discord by the way.
Congratulations, FalKoopa!
