Luigi 1.1.0 Patch Notes and Changes

[Steelballray]

We survived this one. Twitter is all out for our asses. check out @mrconcon321 for some combos with the new fair.
OR you can be nice and check mine @ Steelballray cause I also retweeted several videos for several players

 

[Luig]

Well, at least they can pretend aerial shine semi spike on fast fallers again..

 

[TriTails]

We survived this one. Twitter is all out for our *****. check out @mrconcon321 for some combos with the new fair.
OR you can be nice and check mine @ Steelballray cause I also retweeted several videos for several players

We didn't just survived this one. We snatched some buffs!

Checking twitter now.

Everyone: YOUR YEAR IS OVER
Luigi: (Check luigimaster0's sig)

 

[Luig]

Still gonna use Fully charged fsmash angled up after a shield break. It has higher kbg than FJP.

 

[MarioMeteor]

I suppose it was a bit of heavy thing to take. Fox loses Double Jab ->U-smash/U-tilt/things, which was pretty a lot.

I suppose they don't want a character who has U-smash of the Sparta to be able to combo to it from a F2 jab.

...Are we really going God of War in the namings here?

Somewhere, shofu is crying.

 

[Steelballray]

Somewhere, shofu is crying.

Fox nerfs and Luigi buffs.. somehow I sympathy with him.

 

[Steelballray]

Still gonna use Fully charged fsmash angled up after a shield break. It has higher kbg than FJP.

Dunno.. FJP is much flashier..

 

[Luig]

I personnally think it's more disrespectful since everybody thinks that you are going to use FJP

 

[MarioMeteor]

Still gonna use Fully charged fsmash angled up after a shield break. It has higher kbg than FJP.

Shield break? With Luigi? Error 404, computer hamsters not found.

 

[Pyr]

Shield break? With Luigi? Error 404, computer hamsters not found.

Down Smash can hit a shield twice for 30% shield damage.

 

[Luig]

For those people that don't realize how much shield damage FJP does and how to sidestep.
ERORR*****
Sorry, did I say shield break? I meant missed rest.

But yes, dsmash can do RIDICULOUS shield damage.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Now you know I had to go test that, and ****, you're right.

 

[Steelballray]

Shield break? With Luigi? Error 404, computer hamsters not found.

Once I was bored and decided to spam f smashes at a bowser on for glory he shielded two (one half charged and one uncharged) and his shield was gone. I am not sure, but I think even an uncharged f smash eat a decent amount the enemies shields compared to other attacks in the game, although I can't foresee it happening in a serious match of course.

 

[Luig]

Fsmash does extra shield damage, like in brawl.

 

[Pyr]

Does anyone know the window to jab reset, frame-data wise? Testing things when I get home, and I got a feeling (a pipe dream, really) that they made the jab reset window more strict.

 

[TriTails]

Arrrghhh... The patch is taking so long to download on my end.

 

[Luig]

I'm pretty sure the jab lock thing is the fireball having a few frames more endlag. Besides, locking once is usually already good enough anyway, and if the opponent is under 70 or so, you can use dtilt.

 

[TriTails]

Was D-tilt's end lag reduced?

 

[Luig]

Yes, everybody says it was, and I think it was.

EDIT: testing, and I am 99.99% sure that its faster now.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Was D-tilt's end lag reduced?

Indeed it was. On the flipside, though, the knockback scaling's been increased.

 

[Luig]

Due to the new angle though, its more of a buff since you can edgeguard with it now.
And trip into FJP.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Due to the new angle though, its more of a buff since you can edgeguard with it now.
And trip into FJP.

You could always edgeguard with it. The hitbox hits below the ledge, for some reason.

 

[TriTails]

I heard U-throw KB was decreased. Is this true?

If it is, we'll have another combo throw~.

I better actually testing things rather than asking them. But my download is still going...

 

[Luig]

Yes, but it's angle is much lower now.

I'll test the u-throw.

U-throw kos at 190. Not sure what it did pre patch though.

 

[TriTails]

Yes, but it's angle is much lower now.

I'll test the u-throw.

U-throw kos at 190. Not sure what it did pre patch though.

Wii U or 3DS? Because U-throw seem to kill at 185-190-ish% in 3DS...

 

[MarioMeteor]

Testing, testing, 1-2-3.
Up throw KOs at 188% currently and KOd at 200% before.

 

[Pyr]

Fireball Endlag confirmed by 2+ people in the patch thread to be 41 > 44.

 

[Luig]

I was using the wii u version.

The fireball endlag has basically no impact on gameplay besides the lock thing, so its pretty minute.

 

[Pyr]

So, we lose jab locks using only fireballs and gain 3 frames of fireball endlag. And, to compensate, we get a stronger Up-B, up-throw, a Fair that does a little less and potentially becomes a better combos tool for longer, and a D-Tilt that can confirm into the Up-B/gimp a lot better.

Nintendo... I love you.

 

[Luig]

Well this was nice figuring this out.
My super stupid hopeful buff is that we can wall jump like in the E3 demo, and that we get an actual airspeed.

Shouldn't the OP be updated?

 

[Sir_Africa]

Woah wait, Fox really lost jab jab > follow up ability? O.o

 

[Luig]

Yes.

 

[Space Stranger]

Well this was nice figuring this out.
My super stupid hopeful buff is that we can wall jump like in the E3 demo, and that we get an actual airspeed.

Shouldn't the OP be updated?

I'll update later today. I'm going to be out until 10:30 EST.

Do you want me to include a list of changes in a spoiler tab?

 

[TriTails]

I suppose we restart the MU discussions. D-tilt change seem pretty significant to me.

Do tell me if it shouldn't tho.

Note to self: Memorize the timing where you can act out of the new Fireballs.

 

[GwJ]

When I tested, down b wasn't able to suck people in as much and was easier to get out of. Can anyone confirm or deconfirm?

 

[Cypher94]

When I tested, down b wasn't able to suck people in as much and was easier to get out of. Can anyone confirm or deconfirm?

I'm home in next hour or so, I can check then but I'm really hoping they have not changed cyclone and that's a kill move for us

 

[Steelballray]

When I tested, down b wasn't able to suck people in as much and was easier to get out of. Can anyone confirm or deconfirm?

My best friend plays Sheik and G&W. Usually Sheik is very hard for me to keep inside and G&W is the opposite. I tested after the patch and didn't feel there was any kind of a difference. I played against these two characters of his a lot prior to the patch and a decent amount of times afterwards so I think my word can be taken in this matter.

 

[Steelballray]

Around how many percents earlier does the JFP kill now? I don't need very accurate data I just want it to be put in perspective.

 

[TriTails]

According to @ MarioMeteor , FJP kills about 10% earlier.

 

[Samura1man]

Luigi's fireball got nerf, it has more ending lag, by 3 frames, correct me if I'm wrong, but anyway I had to go and test jab locking, how many of them you can jab locked once or three times.
I tested this with 20% and on Battlefield. Now there is 23 characters you can jab lock only once, before patch it was 9.
I managed to jab lock some of the characters with two fireballs, but I listed them to one fireball instead, so there wouldn't be any confusion.

--One fireball--
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Yoshi
Rosalina
Diddy Kong
Zelda
Sheik
Zero Suit Samus
Palutena
Marth
Greninja
Ness
Wii Fit Trainer
Shulk
Dr. Mario
Lucina
Pac-Man
Megaman
Sonic
Lucas
Roy
Ryu


--Three fireballs--
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Wario
Donkey Kong
Mr. Game & Watch
Little Mac
Link
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Samus
Pit
Ike
Duck Hunt Duo
Kirby
Kind Dedede
Meta Knight
Fox
Falco
Pikachu
Charizard
Lucario
Jigglypuff
R.O.B.
C. Falcon
Villager
Olimar
Dark Pit
Mewtwo